Overclocking 11700k/11900k results, bins and discussion

sugi0lover · Jul 8, 2021

OLDFATSHEEP said:
Tried N:1=1? Normal 1T is N:1=3.

Normal 1T may be possible. N:1=1 seems very very hard.
Still normal 1t is better than normal 2t ^^

cstkl1 · Jul 8, 2021

sugi0lover said:
Normal 1T may be possible. N:1=1 seems very very hard.
Still normal 1t is better than normal 2t ^^

i find for gear 1 SR better than DR.. latency and performance..
DR has a insane copy though that doesnt make sense cause its higher than read/write.

satinghostrider · Jul 8, 2021

My current setup with 4800C19 with @cstkl1 awesome guide. Had to change my SA/IO to 1.28V as 0903 was failing Kahru from 1.2V to 1
25V. Hope they address this is the new BIOS updates for M13A.

CPU is a SP83 and just switched on ABT for overclocking. Find ABT on for daily abit high for temps even for custom loop.

Arni90 · Jul 8, 2021

cstkl1 said:
i find for gear 1 SR better than DR.. latency and performance..
DR has a insane copy though that doesnt make sense cause its higher than read/write.

In what? AIDA64, or something that actually measures performance?

Because AIDA64 doesn't measure any kind of relevant or interesting performance, it's impossible to find a correlation between AIDA64 numbers and actual performance in games or benchmarks.

cstkl1 · Jul 8, 2021

Arni90 said:
In what? AIDA64, or something that actually measures performance?

Because AIDA64 doesn't measure any kind of relevant or interesting performance, it's impossible to find a correlation between AIDA64 numbers and actual performance in games or benchmarks.

in game.

cstkl1 · Jul 8, 2021

OLDFATSHEEP said:
Tried N:1=1? Normal 1T is N:1=3.

1t is not n:1=3

n:1=3 is 33% slower on turnaround completion (coverage speed) than 1t even-though aida shows similar.

Jwick · Jul 8, 2021

no dual rank will always give more performance. (IN GAME)

OLDFATSHEEP · Jul 8, 2021

cstkl1 said:
1t is not n:1=3

n:1=3 is 33% slower on turnaround completion (coverage speed) than 1t even-though aida shows similar.

On msi board, set 1N equals to N:1=3 according to intel spec. You need to set "real 1N" or N:1=1 to get the true 1N mode.

But this may vary between vendors.
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Edit:
On M13A:

1N

N:1=3

Cant even post N:1=2. Seems Asus also sets 1N=(N:1=3).

OLDFATSHEEP · Jul 8, 2021

And that's how you can post 3866 14-14 1t by one click

cstkl1 · Jul 9, 2021

OLDFATSHEEP said:
On msi board, set 1N equals to N:1=3 according to intel spec. You need to set "real 1N" or N:1=1 to get the true 1N mode.

But this may vary between vendors.
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Edit:
On M13A:

1N
View attachment 2516891

N:1=3
View attachment 2516892

Cant even post N:1=2. Seems Asus also sets 1N=(N:1=3).

run tm5 1usmusv3

auto 4mins per cycle
n=3 5 mins 19sec

both bandwidth shows same but turnaround per cycle says a diff story.

cstkl1 · Jul 9, 2021

OLDFATSHEEP said:
And that's how you can post 3866 14-14 1t by one click
View attachment 2516893

err i dont need that bro to post enter windows
setting 1t works. just cannot run any stress test = bsod

OLDFATSHEEP · Jul 9, 2021

cstkl1 said:
err i dont need that bro to post enter windows
setting 1t works. just cannot run any stress test = bsod

Did 4 tests, 2 in gear 1 and 2 in gear 2. Using RMTP 5.0 for 10% coverage.

In gear 1:
"1n"

"N:1=3"

In gear 2:

"1N"

"N:1=3"

Seems in gear 1 they doesn't have much difference but in gear 2 "1N" is faster.

Cant boot N:1=1 yet so haven't tested.

Seems on Asus "N:1=3" and "1N" are different based on the gear 2 results.

YaqY · Jul 9, 2021

OLDFATSHEEP said:
Did 4 tests, 2 in gear 1 and 2 in gear 2. Using RMTP 5.0 for 10% coverage.

In gear 1:
"1n"
View attachment 2516938

"N:1=3"
View attachment 2516939

In gear 2:

"1N"
View attachment 2516940

"N:1=3"
View attachment 2516941

Seems in gear 1 they doesn't have much difference but in gear 2 "1N" is faster.

Cant boot N:1=1 yet so haven't tested.

Seems on Asus "N:1=3" and "1N" are different based on the gear 2 results.

In gear 2, 1N is effectively 2N. From intel directly they state.
"In Gear2 MC uses only the low phase of Dclk for commands, effectively doing a 2N by default.
Setting 2N in Gear2 will result in 4N at DDR interface"

OLDFATSHEEP · Jul 9, 2021

YaqY said:
In gear 2, 1N is effectively 2N. From intel directly they state.
"In Gear2 MC uses only the low phase of Dclk for commands, effectively doing a 2N by default.
Setting 2N in Gear2 will result in 4N at DDR interface"

It was not "1N" and "2N" we were talking about. We were talking about the "n to 1 ratio mode".

Gear 2 magnifies the difference in command rates so on Asus MBs the "1N" should be different from "N:1=3" based on the test results.

sachsawk · Jul 11, 2021

Hello everyone. I'm having serious issues trying to stabilize my RAM at 3733 or 3866. Both boot just fine and i've been trying to play with Vdimm, Mcio and SA voltages but no dice so far... Kit is new Gskill Trident Z Royal Elite 3600 14-14-34 2x16gb. Any tips on voltages would be appreciated. Karhu starts to give errors in few minutes... Tried Mcio and SA up to 1.65v and different combinations in between. Vdimm 1.5-1.55... Or is my IMC just that bad... SP72 chip... Using Bios 0903 atm and board is XIII Apex.

OLDFATSHEEP · Jul 11, 2021

sachsawk said:
Hello everyone. I'm having serious issues trying to stabilize my RAM at 3733 or 3866. Both boot just fine and i've been trying to play with Vdimm, Mcio and SA voltages but no dice so far... Kit is new Gskill Trident Z Royal Elite 3600 14-14-34 2x16gb. Any tips on voltages would be appreciated. Karhu starts to give errors in few minutes... Tried Mcio and SA up to 1.65v and different combinations in between. Vdimm 1.5-1.55... Or is my IMC just that bad... SP72 chip... Using Bios 0903 atm and board is XIII Apex.

What's the highest clock you can boot with only one stick?

morph. · Jul 13, 2021

satinghostrider said:
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My current setup with 4800C19 with @cstkl1 awesome guide. Had to change my SA/IO to 1.28V as 0903 was failing Kahru from 1.2V to 1
25V. Hope they address this is the new BIOS updates for M13A.

CPU is a SP83 and just switched on ABT for overclocking. Find ABT on for daily abit high for temps even for custom loop.

Very similar scores

mines at 3733 g1 c14s my 3866 g1 boot seems hit and miss...

I scored 20 802 in Time Spy

Intel Core i9-11900K Processor, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}

www.3dmark.com

satinghostrider · Jul 13, 2021

morph. said:
Very similar scores mines at 3733 g1 c14s my 3866 g1 boot seems hit and miss...

View attachment 2517263

I scored 20 802 in Time Spy

Intel Core i9-11900K Processor, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}

www.3dmark.com

Wow pretty much similar scores. Basically G1 Vs G2 comparison on Timespy. My CPU isn't overclocked though I just switched ABT ON to save me the hassle of manually tweaking stuff. Works very well for quick benchmark runs.

safedisk · Jul 13, 2021

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morph. · Jul 13, 2021

safedisk said:
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@safedisk @shamino1978 Any love and further improvements for the Z490 Maximus Formula especially with for gear 1 3866 and gear 2 for DR B die please would be much appreciated.

I can't get my F4-4000C14D-32GTES to post @3866MHz 14-14-14-28 consistently.

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YaqY

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I scored 20 802 in Time Spy

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