Playing this game call Dyson Sphere Program and I've reached the point where the game lags a bit. This is pretty common with this game so I'm hoping it's just bad optimization. The screenshot attached doesn't show 100% usage for either the cpu or the graphics card. I have a i9 9920x and a RTX 3080... Do I need better single threaded performance?
What is causing this bottleneck(SOLVED)
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Playing this game call Dyson Sphere Program and I've reached the point where the game lags a bit. This is pretty common with this game so I'm hoping it's just bad optimization. The screenshot attached doesn't show 100% usage for either the cpu or the graphics card. I have a i9 9920x and a RTX 3080... Do I need better single threaded performance?
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If anything it would be the CPU. But given the fact there is no single core pegged at 100% (in fact, seems the highest core is 80%), I would lean more towards poor optimization. You could always OC the CPU a bit and see if the problem disappears or gets better. If it gets better, then chances are it is a single thread bottleneck.
Just my opinion.
Just my opinion.
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Your CPU is not the problem at all. First of all Intel has been 14nm for years lol, my old 7980XE is easily on par with even a 10900K in single threaded performance. It usually manages around 224-230 in R15 single thread performance, and it’ll slap a stock 5950X (in multi-threaded performance)
With all that being said, your 9920X is still a beast. But they need tweaking to perform. Set your mesh to x30. You’ll get drastically lower system latency. Set your tRMEI to 32767 in memory timmings.
Now, some games engines just suck. Especially DX11 titles.
Go in your bios and disable hyper threading. And you’ll just have 12/12 cores instead of 12/24. The performance is much more consistent GPU usage.
If you have a Nvidia GPU then go in the nvidia control panel and disable (Multithread optimization) turn that to off or disabled.
But, 100% this is more than likely hyperthreading causing the problem.
Last but not least. I recommend setting an all
core overclock of your single thread boost. So, I would easy set 4.2Ghz on all 12 cores at a fixed voltage of 1.100V. Your CPU is guaranteed to do that. Youll probably have lower temps
too. As the stock voltage is probably higher. Disabled any C-States too.
All of your cores are flipping between 3.5 and 4.2 3.5 to 4.2. Just set them all to 4.2Ghz for 24/7 usage.
Poor optimization doesn't rule out a CPU bottleneck. In this case, it's probably causing one.
The only surefire way to rule out a CPU bottleneck is to significantly alter CPU speed. If doing so doesn't alter game performance appreciable, then it's not CPU limit. However, if it does, then it is, even if no core is reporting full load. Most programs won't poll fast enough to catch highly intermittent loads or Windows' own scheduler cycling demanding loads between cores.
The only surefire way to rule out a CPU bottleneck is to significantly alter CPU speed. If doing so doesn't alter game performance appreciable, then it's not CPU limit. However, if it does, then it is, even if no core is reporting full load. Most programs won't poll fast enough to catch highly intermittent loads or Windows' own scheduler cycling demanding loads between cores.
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Its just bad game optimization coupled with a slight CPU bottleneck.
You should try Cities Skyline and see the bad FPS there. Usually, these world builder games are the ones that run the worst and are badly optimized.
The 4.2Ghz speed doesn't help either, but it also doesn't make that much of an impact.
You should try Cities Skyline and see the bad FPS there. Usually, these world builder games are the ones that run the worst and are badly optimized.
The 4.2Ghz speed doesn't help either, but it also doesn't make that much of an impact.
Thank you very much for your suggestion. I took your advice and my GPU utilization is now 99%. My FPS basically doubled. This guy knows what he's talking about
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Thank you very much for the kind words! Also, make sure you’ve got windows in high performance, or ultimate performance power mode.Thank you very much for your suggestion. I took your advice and my GPU utilization is now 99%. My FPS basically doubled. This guy knows what he's talking about
Also, only disable HT if your GPU usage is low, and your CPU is hardly being used (This is my least favorite type of game engine lol). A lot of game engines are crap plain and simple unfortunately. You can create two profiles in your motherboards bios (HT on) or (HT off), and just swap between them depending on your games you play.
Also, with Hyper threading off your CPU uses about 35-40% less power consumption,it also uses a whole lot less voltage, and runs about 30-40% cooler too. So you can very very easily get by with a 4.7Ghz all core OC, which will only further improve your FPS! When you have HT disabled these CPU’s will practically do anything for you lol.
4.7Ghz with HT off is equivalent heat and power consumption to probably 4.2Ghz with HT on.
You’ve got a great CPU, and a great platform. And you have upgrade options down the line for that socket, and x299 platform.
Everything posted here is true. Also this platform loves fast memory too.tweak your timings set trefi to max try to work your tfaw down to the 30 range and trfc to 300ish range if you got b die. Ive gotten my latency down to sub 50ns.
Also if you oc set your cpu input voltage aka vccin to 2.0. cpu vcore should stay below 1.35 on high end water 1.2 on air.
This platform is so much fun to tweak and can compete with new stuff if setup right
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