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I was looking at the Gigabyte Z690 AORUS Elite AX or MSI Pro Z690-A, but was wondering which of these would be better or if there is a different motherboard that would be better for my CPU. Budget is under $500 but under $350-400 is preferable. Thanks for any and all help.
 
I was looking at the Gigabyte Z690 AORUS Elite AX or MSI Pro Z690-A, but was wondering which of these would be better or if there is a different motherboard that would be better for my CPU. Budget is under $500 but under $350-400 is preferable. Thanks for any and all help.
For a DDR4 board, you're not getting any 'high-end' features like onboard Thunderbolt or 10Gbit LAN... so it's up to you to decide what features you need, or don't. About the only info that I can pass on is that Gigabyte has had more trouble with DDR4 and DDR5 this go around, and MSI has done quite well, so personally I would pick MSI.

(I had a Gigabyte DDR5 board killing memory sticks, and traded it in for an MSI - and in what info I could find for people with similar issues, that was the way to go...)
 
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Depends on what features you need.
I'm pretty unknowledgeable on features a motherboard could have other than physical ones like more USB ports. If you could list a couple that would be appreciated, I was looking at overclocking videos for the i7-12700k and a lot of the videos were using MSI boards so that's what I was kind of leaning on.

For a DDR4 board
Would it be worth looking at a DDR5 board then? I wouldn't mind buying DDR5 ram, to be honest.

MSI Pro Z690-A is unbeatable for the money IMHO.
Thanks for your input, I'll look more into that board!

EDIT: Can you tell me what features I would be missing out on with the MSI board?
 
I'm pretty unknowledgeable on features a motherboard could have other than physical ones like more USB ports. If you could list a couple that would be appreciated, I was looking at overclocking videos for the i7-12700k and a lot of the videos were using MSI boards so that's what I was kind of leaning on.
Unfortunately I am not the person to ask that question. I am heavily biased towards p/p.
 
Would it be worth looking at a DDR5 board then? I wouldn't mind buying DDR5 ram, to be honest.
Pure price / performance, absolutely not. Features? Depends on what you value, given that motherboard makers have gated the nice stuff to DDR5 only.

Biggest problem is that you'd need to spend around US$500 for an MSI MEG Z690 Unify-X to have a decent chance at running 'faster' DDR5, and by faster I mean faster than DDR5 5600 - where DDR5 4800 is 'stock'. The faster DDR5 kits can keep up with the better DDR4 kits in terms of latency while bringing double the bandwidth. Two-slot DDR5 boards are able to keep up, four-slot boards are having a miserable time. And ASUS' option is US$720, and they're rumored to be running out of stock and not making any more of them.

EDIT: Can you tell me what features I would be missing out on with the MSI board?
Nothing that I can see. I have an ASUS Strix Z690-A, and this MSI board seems to match it feature to feature on everything I'd care about at only 2/3rd the price.

(this is the board I picked up before I started down the DDR5 road...)
 
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Pure price / performance, absolutely not. Features? Depends on what you value, given that motherboard makers have gated the nice stuff to DDR5 only.

Biggest problem is that you'd need to spend around US$500 for an MSI MEG Z690 Unify-X to have a decent chance at running 'faster' DDR5, and by faster I mean faster than DDR5 5600 - where DDR5 4800 is 'stock'. The faster DDR5 kits can keep up with the better DDR4 kits in terms of latency while bringing double the bandwidth. Two-slot DDR5 boards are able to keep up, four-slot boards are having a miserable time. And ASUS' option is US$720, and they're rumored to be running out of stock and not making any more of them.



Nothing that I can see. I have an ASUS Strix Z690-A, and this MSI board seems to match it feature to feature on everything I'd care about at only 2/3rd the price.

(this is the board I picked up before I started down the DDR5 road...)
Would it be worth waiting for DDR5 to become more viable over DDR4? I'm currently running 32gb 4000mhz DDR4 and I don't really know if DDR5 would be that much better for me.

Also, is there a benefit to getting a board with 2x 8pin 12Vs at the top left? My current board only has 8 + 4 pin for the CPU.
 
I have a 12700k that I bought recently and personally it looked like MSI had the best offerings for DDR4. I went with the MAG z690 Tomahawk for myself. I would say the Tomahawk or Edge would be your best bet. I usually buy Asus boards so getting a new brand was kinda scary but it's been rock solid so far.
 
MSI fa cagare delicate come la merda Asus peggio che peggio, l'unica che un po' si salva Ă© gigabyte
Non valgono un cazzo i componenti, farebbero bene a farveli pagare 300/400 $ in piĂą, tanto i barbagianni che ogni anno comprano ne Ă© pieno il mondo
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I was looking at the Gigabyte Z690 AORUS Elite AX or MSI Pro Z690-A, but was wondering which of these would be better or if there is a different motherboard that would be better for my CPU. Budget is under $500 but under $350-400 is preferable. Thanks for any and all help.
Out of those two - Pro Z690-A. If you pick a Gigabyte - I would only choose the Aorus Pro series - although, Gigabyte boards (at the moment) are reportedly picky with memory - but, YMMV - some ppl claim the kinks have been ironed out. I would still choose the MSI.
 
the MSI z490 unify card that I have, cannot bring the patriots Viper 4 GHz cl19 above their frequency or go down in latency ... I repeat and refer

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the MSI z490 unify card that I have, cannot bring the patriots Viper 4 GHz cl19 above their frequency or go down in latency ... I repeat and refer

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And I completely contradict that statement as the Z490 Unify / Ace are among the best 4 slot boards for overclocking memory. Just check the Intel ram OC topic and I myself had a Ace which would easily get my 3600C16's to 4533C17. The 10700's weaker memory controller is to blame here, not the board.
 
And I completely contradict that statement as the Z490 Unify / Ace are among the best 4 slot boards for overclocking memory. Just check the Intel ram OC topic and I myself had a Ace which would easily get my 3600C16's to 4533C17. The 10700's weaker memory controller is to blame here, not the board.
totally agree with you. Unify is a beast on ram overclocking, i got 4533 c16, but i7 10700k could not handle it (passed all ram stress test and failed cpu intensive tests). Do you think i could get another kit of viper and go 4x8 4400 c16? Or too heavy for imc?
 
And I completely contradict that statement as the Z490 Unify / Ace are among the best 4 slot boards for overclocking memory. Just check the Intel ram OC topic and I myself had a Ace which would easily get my 3600C16's to 4533C17. The 10700's weaker memory controller is to blame here, not the board.
With my same ram, true?

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depends on the ram too, I have one kit of the patriot 4400c19 that clocks much worse than my other 3 kits.
think that I have the 4000 cl19 model and the only possible overclock is through xmp

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