[OFFICIAL] Asus Strix/Maximus Z690 Owners Thread

bastian · Sep 18, 2022

sulalin said:
If you don't use aide ic, you don't have to use bios2004, which I have observed so far.

It makes sense. Raptor Lake support has been since 16xx BIOS.

sulalin · Sep 18, 2022

bscool said:
2022 Apex bios 2004 u code 15

Arctic LF2 420 AIO

Memory air cooled Phantek T30 - 7000c30

I removed all u codes and replaced with 15 so KS and newer 13 gens probably wont work. I have only tested with 12900K as in screenshots.

Y cruncher 2.5b @ 53/49 on this bios is approximately 2 seconds faster than same settings on previous bioses using same settings for 2.5b.

Also you cannot flash back to older bioses from this bios.

I flashed to the "stock" 2004 first. Then I modded 2004 and it can be flashed to this modded 2004 with u code 15.

Edit note I also did not update to the newest IME so maybe that is why my y cruncher score seems "bugged".

If you try it post feedback about your y cruncher score.

Microsoft OneDrive

1drv.ms

bscool`s 53 sec 53 ms score: y-cruncher - Pi-2.5b with aCore i9 12900K (8P)

The Core i9 12900K (8P) @ 5300MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the y-cruncher - Pi-2.5b benchmark. bscoolranks #null worldwide and #null in the hardware class. Find out more at HWBOT.

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不好意思，我已經是2004版了。我可以用支持 AVX512 的這個版本來覆蓋它嗎？謝謝你。

bscool · Sep 18, 2022

Yes, you can use Ez flash to flash 2004 with u code 15

sulalin · Sep 18, 2022

bscool，發布：29032366，成員：571521 said:
是的，您可以使用 Ez flash 使用 u 代碼 15 來刷 2004
[/引用Thank you.

Agent-A01 · Sep 18, 2022

grifers said:
Good morning. This 2004 bios for my TUF D4 is just awful. It increased the power consumption/temps of my stock 12700KF, with the previous bios (1503) the consumption was 135 wats, now almost 160. And leaving the VDDQ voltage on auto, this 2004 bios puts it at 1.5 with the stock processor and RAM (without XMP or Gear 1 in the RAM). And indeed I can't go back to older bios.

I changed BIOS (bad for me), but because my previous BIOS 1503 which had overclock 5ghz P cores, 4 GHz E-cores, 42 Uncore and 4000 Mhz 15-15-15-35 in RAM all perfectly stable 5 months ago (spending 1 hour of handbrake for 12700KF stability, and almost 5 hours of Karhu + full cycle of testmem 5 profile Absolout by Anta77 successfully completed and no error for the RAM), suddenly after several months going perfectly, it decides the board is unstable, during these 4 months the temperatures perfect playing (no more than 50 degrees the CPU at Back 4 blood, I only play that game), and the ram memory just 43 degrees. I have the feeling that this platform is a nonsense, no matter how stable you have the overclocks that at some point ceases to be, what a joke this is. I started to notice that something was wrong when playing Back 4 Blood the PC restarts after 1 hour or so (at low CPU and GPU loads), me blaming it on the game or the XBOX Gamepass application- In short.

At this point I do not know if my board went crazy or this bios 2004 is a mess, because now from stock happens that, leaving everything from stock and the voltages in AUTO this happens, the VDDQ voltage puts it very high, I had to put it manually to 1.35 which is how I had it before with all overclock and bios 1503.

The newer bios may have unlocked power limits compared to what you had before. All else the same, at the same voltages(assuming you dialed everything in) it's not possible for it be using 30 more watts. If you are using B4B as a test, that wouldn't be a good measure of power as it's highly variable based on what's going on.

Also, stability may be worse now because your CPU IMC has degraded. If your SA was > 1.35 for 4000MT Gear 1 then it's very likely it's slowly degraded over time and stability in extreme tests is much worse. I had that issue on mine 12900K @ 4133 Gear 1

owikh84 said:
Saw your 6600C30 1T post earlier. Not sure how you could finish the TM5 in 59mins though. Maybe 6600C30 1T is really faster than 6800C32 2T?

My 59m run was on 6400C30 1T with tight secondaries/tertiaries. Maybe those help a lot too.

I'm still playing around with 66001T for stability, may or may not be possible on this board (early apex)

hemirunner426 · Sep 18, 2022

7empe said:
What about VF curve undervolting in 2004? Does it work properly now (I heard it does not - it gets ignored)?

I can confirm this on 1720 (PRIME Z690-A)

Netarangi · Sep 18, 2022

Upgraded to 2004 on ASUS TUF Z690, imported bios settings from 0807 and everything's the same for me, no issues.

mkimbro · Sep 18, 2022

Does anybody know where to buy an ASUS ROG Z690 APEX, build 2022 Motherboard? in the USA????

grifers · Sep 18, 2022

Agent-A01 said:
The newer bios may have unlocked power limits compared to what you had before. All else the same, at the same voltages(assuming you dialed everything in) it's not possible for it be using 30 more watts. If you are using B4B as a test, that wouldn't be a good measure of power as it's highly variable based on what's going on.

Also, stability may be worse now because your CPU IMC has degraded. If your SA was > 1.35 for 4000MT Gear 1 then it's very likely it's slowly degraded over time and stability in extreme tests is much worse. I had that issue on mine 12900K @ 4133 Gear 1

Hello Good evening. No, the consumption test I do not do it with B4B, I do it passing a Cinebench, it is 30 watts more with all stock and voltages in manual. Also I remember (before flashing to 2004), I flashed to BIOS 1003 and passing a Cinebench with everything in AUTO I had the consumption of the first day I bought the CPU, ie 135 watts. The problem comes with the BIOS 2004, in my case it seems to have the same problem I had with the BIOS 1720:

BIOS v1720 Compulsory Update Mega Thread (asus.com)

The degradation thing I did not know it was so soon, we are talking about just 4 months. Anyway to degrade the IMC of the processor, isn't it more a matter of having the VDDQ high instead of the SA?, I ask from ignorance. My VDDQ was always 1.36, my SA left it on AUTO and the board set it to 1.35, I thought that was a safe voltage for 24/7. What would be a safe SA voltage to not degrade the IMC of my 12700KF?

Thanks!

Agent-A01 · Sep 19, 2022

grifers said:
Hello Good evening. No, the consumption test I do not do it with B4B, I do it passing a Cinebench, it is 30 watts more with all stock and voltages in manual. Also I remember (before flashing to 2004), I flashed to BIOS 1003 and passing a Cinebench with everything in AUTO I had the consumption of the first day I bought the CPU, ie 135 watts. The problem comes with the BIOS 2004, in my case it seems to have the same problem I had with the BIOS 1720:

BIOS v1720 Compulsory Update Mega Thread (asus.com)

The degradation thing I did not know it was so soon, we are talking about just 4 months. Anyway to degrade the IMC of the processor, isn't it more a matter of having the VDDQ high instead of the SA?, I ask from ignorance. My VDDQ was always 1.36, my SA left it on AUTO and the board set it to 1.35, I thought that was a safe voltage for 24/7. What would be a safe SA voltage to not degrade the IMC of my 12700KF?

Thanks!

I experienced degradation at 1.38~v. I used to could run y-cruncher at that voltage @ 4133 and over time I had to increase SA voltage to run the same test. Eventually I couldn't run 4133 at all even at 1.45v.

With that experience, I'd say 1.35v is the absolute max, but even then I would want to stay around 1.3v if I were planning on keeping that system for years.
VDDQ 1.36 is fine though.

As for power consumption, unless you set voltages manually it's not really comparable as newer bios may increase voltages for some settings on auto voltages.
You said you set vcore to manual but there is L2 cache voltage, SA, etc that can increase power consumption.

Anyways, not something that is a big deal as long as everything runs OK.

Simkin · Sep 19, 2022

mkimbro said:
Does anybody know where to buy an ASUS ROG Z690 APEX, build 2022 Motherboard? in the USA????

Probably much easier to just get an Apex 790 soon.

grifers · Sep 19, 2022

Agent-A01 said:
I experienced degradation at 1.38~v. I used to could run y-cruncher at that voltage @ 4133 and over time I had to increase SA voltage to run the same test. Eventually I couldn't run 4133 at all even at 1.45v.

With that experience, I'd say 1.35v is the absolute max, but even then I would want to stay around 1.3v if I were planning on keeping that system for years.
VDDQ 1.36 is fine though.

As for power consumption, unless you set voltages manually it's not really comparable as newer bios may increase voltages for some settings on auto voltages.
You said you set vcore to manual but there is L2 cache voltage, SA, etc that can increase power consumption.

Anyways, not something that is a big deal as long as everything runs OK.

Hello, good morning. Thanks for the answers, the truth is that one learns a lot thanks to the people who make this forum. The only thing that was never clear to me (but already for years, several platforms). The vcore is the voltage that feed (in this case, in these z690 boards) to the P-CORES, E-Cores and (I guess) the Uncore. The VDDQ (if I'm not mistaken) is the one that feeds the IMC (I don't know if any other part of the processor), what was never clear to me that is what feeds the System Agent voltage? I guess the communication between processor and RAM? Anything else? Sorry for the ignorance

Best regards!

Radical_53 · Sep 20, 2022

Netarangi said:
Upgraded to 2004 on ASUS TUF Z690, imported bios settings from 0807 and everything's the same for me, no issues.

Thanks for the input. I tried to do the same yesterday but my old settings won't even boot anymore, not even a regular XMP will do so. Reminds me of the AsRock board I had before this...

hemirunner426 said:
I can confirm this on 1720 (PRIME Z690-A)

... confirm it works or confirm it still gets ignored like before? Thanks!

mattxx88 · Sep 20, 2022

hi guyzz
haven't posted in a while, last sunday i updated to 2004, coming from an older version (maybe 1304 if im not wrong)
i saved my 5.2 ghz adaptive profile and loaded it back to new bios without issues

the problem is the 5.2 fixed volt profile, that doesn't load it for me.
I suppose it is because of the new entries in the 2004 bios that were not there in my previous 1304, in the section "manual voltage"
i see 3 new entries, VRM svid, core svid and cache svid (or something like this)
Can someone share his bios profile with fixed voltage OC? I wanted to take a look at the various values
edit: i have a Z690i STRIX

7empe · Sep 20, 2022

Radical_53 said:
Thanks for the input. I tried to do the same yesterday but my old settings won't even boot anymore, not even a regular XMP will do so. Reminds me of the AsRock board I had before this...

... confirm it works or confirm it still gets ignored like before? Thanks!

IronAge · Sep 20, 2022

Prepare yourself for next gen prices, i have doubts that Z790 Apex will cost less than ~950$.

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nickolp1974 · Sep 20, 2022

IronAge said:
Prepare yourself for next gen prices, i have doubts that Z790 Apex will cost less than ~950$.

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The price sheet of ASUS's X670E & X670 motherboards have been leaked by MEGAsizeGPU and range from $385 to $1300 US.

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I won't be buying if there that much, getting ridiculous now.

7empe · Sep 20, 2022

nickolp1974 said:
I won't be buying if there that much, getting ridiculous now.

I wonder if it's the same cost-to-trash ratio as it was with z690.

nickolp1974 · Sep 20, 2022

7empe said:
I wonder if it's the same cost-to-trash ratio as it was with z690.

Ha ha hope not.l!! I'll pay around the £650 GBP mark for an Apex but no more. Paid 570 at launch for 690. So just over 10% increase is more than fair.

sulalin · Sep 21, 2022

ROG Z690 APEX & Hynix DDR5-ADIE
DDR5-7800~8533MHZ QUAD CHANNEL 16G*2

7800MHZ/C32 GB3-Memory-Score:15261
8000MHZ/C32 GB3-Memory-Score:15318
AIDI64 TEST 7800MHZ/C32 Latency 45.6ns 8C/16HT
AIDI64 TEST 8000MHZ/C32 Latency 45.7ns 8C/16HT
AIDI64 TEST 8200MHZ/C34 Latency 46.0ns 8C/16HT
AIDI64 TEST 8266MHZ/C34 Latency 45.5ns 8C/16HT
AIDI64 TEST 8400MHZ/C36 Latency 49.1ns 8C/16HT
AIDI64 TEST 7800MHZ/C32 Latency 49.3ns 16C/24HT
AIDI64 TEST 8000MHZ/C34 Latency 48.0ns 16C/24HT
R23 7800MHZ / Score:29344
R20 7800MHZ / Score:11198
BIOS:2004u15 SP:79