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Hello,

I hope all is well... my first post here. Two weeks ago I updated my BIOS from 1720 to 2204 (Intel ME 16.1.25.2020) and ran into a slew of issues (BSOD, etc.) and spent the last two weeks troubleshooting (reinstalling windows, attempting to roll back to 1720, etc.) all the way to the BIOS_B and now back to BIOS_M. I'm back up and running now for the most part (on BIOS_M with all basic drivers, etc. installed), but previously I was running 128GB: 2x 2x32GB DIMMs all set to AUTO in the BIOS (iirc 4000 Hz). Now I can get the computer to boot properly only on 64GB: 2x32GB (slots A2, B2) on AUTO (4800 Hz).

When I first built the rig back in August I ran memtest on all four DIMMS at 4000Hz and encountered no errors.

This past weekend I ran mdsched on each DIMM individually (in slot A2) and mdsched on 2x32GB (A2, B2)... all resulting in no errors.

Today I dropped in the other two DIMMs to put me back on 128GB: 2x 2x32GB (everything set to to default/optimal settings in BIOS aka F5) to hopefully run mdsched, but the computer wont boot into Windows. I pulled the two DIMMS and back on 2x 32GB and did a system restore point (repair didnt work) back into Windows.

What did 2204 change or what is the possible causes that I can't run four DIMMs? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Intel i9 12900KS
ASUS ROG Z690 MAXIMUS EXTREME GLACIAL
GSKILLZ 2x 2x32GB DDR5 6000 30-40-40-96
ASUS ROG STRIX LC 3090Ti OC
SKHYNIX M.2 NVME 2TB for Windows 10 22H2 (M.2_2)
ASUS ROG THOR 1200W
 
#8,082 ·
IAMXAM said:
Hello,

I hope all is well... my first post here. Two weeks ago I updated my BIOS from 1720 to 2204 (Intel ME 16.1.25.2020) and ran into a slew of issues (BSOD, etc.) and spent the last two weeks troubleshooting (reinstalling windows, attempting to roll back to 1720, etc.) all the way to the BIOS_B and now back to BIOS_M. I'm back up and running now for the most part (on BIOS_M with all basic drivers, etc. installed), but previously I was running 12GB: 2x 2x32GB DIMMs all set to AUTO in the BIOS (iirc 4000 Hz). Now I can get the computer to boot properly only on 64GB: 2x32GB (slots A2, B2) on AUTO (4800 Hz).

When I first built the rig back in August I ran memtest on all four DIMMS at 4000Hz and encountered no errors.

This past weekend I ran mdsched on each DIMM individually (in slot A2) and mdsched on 2x32GB (A2, B2)... all resulting in no errors.

Today I dropped in the other two DIMMs to put me back on 128GB: 2x 2x32GB (everything set to to default/optimal settings in BIOS aka F5) to hopefully run mdsched, but the computer wont boot into Windows. I pulled the two DIMMS and back on 2x 32GB and did a system restore point (repair didnt work) back into Windows.

What did 2204 change or what is the possible causes that I can't run four DIMMs? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Intel i9 12900KS
ASUS ROG Z690 MAXIMUS EXTREME GLACIAL
GSKILLZ 2x 2x32GB DDR5 6000 30-40-40-96
ASUS ROG STRIX LC 3090Ti OC
SKHYNIX M.2 NVME 2TB for Windows 10 22H2 (M.2_2)
ASUS ROG THOR 1200W
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It might be that you need to set some of the ram voltages even at JEDEC. I have ran into this with some stick on z690 APEX. V color A dies I have don't like to work at JEDEC if I leave all settings on auto. Setting vdd, vddq to something like 1.2 helps, otherwise I eventually run into issues when trying to boot/reboot.

I set defaults when installing Windows or when I am want something that's stable on a new set up.
 
#8,083 ·
bscool said:
It might be that you need to set some of the ram voltages even at JEDEC. I have ran into this with some stick on z690 APEX. V color A dies I have don't like to work at JEDEC if I leave all settings on auto. Setting vdd, vddq to something like 1.2 helps, otherwise I eventually run into issues when trying to boot/reboot.

I set defaults when installing Windows or when I am want something that's stable on a new set up.
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bscool,
Thank you very much for the insight and info! I thought there might be some kind of voltage settings or the such that I could adjust but since I'm not too familiar with this aspect yet I will research into this further and hopefully be able to test it in the next few days!
 
#8,084 ·
sblantipodi said:
Your temp is more weird than mine, never seen a z690 with that temp without using the PCIe link express Power management "saving feature". xD
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Whut? Mine (MZ690 Hero) does 50-55 with four spinning hard disks, two M.2 PCIe SSDs and a PCIe soundcard attached to it. Admittedly I've lapped the heatsink and fitted a TG Minus Pad but they knocked about 10 celsius off the temps when I did it as I recall. LSPM is disabled.
 
#8,085 · (Edited)
sblantipodi said:
are there other people here who set the PCIe link power management to maximum save to reduce by 15°C the temp of the chipset?

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Z690 chipset extreme temp

Hello, I have noticed that my Z690 chipset idles at around 80°C and that while gaming it can goes up to 90°C due to the GPUs throwing in hot air. I have a well vented case (Corsair 4000D) with an Asus Z690 Extreme. Will my chipset degrade over time considering the fact that now we are in...
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do you noticed some reduction in performance?
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I had the opposite problem on my Maximus Z690 Extreme + 13900k combo. When PCI-E Native Power Management is set to ENABLED, my PCH temps climb over 80C, and I get a host of random errors and freezes including (most prominently) tens of thousands of WHEA-17 errors on my ROG DIMM2_1 slot if a Gen4 NVME is installed in that slot. Note that Installing a Gen3 or manually limiting DIMM2_1 to Gen3 mitigates the WHEA-17 errors. Disabling PCI-E Native Power Management dropped my PCH temps by almost 20C and resolved the WHEA-17 errors.

Unfortunately, I am still having a problem where my PC just sort of... Hangs if any OC is applied*. Even the basic out-of-the-box AIOC. I will usually wake up the next day to find my PC frozen sometime during the night and completely unresponsive. If I am at the PC when this happens, it usually manifests as a gradual lock-up of the OS (i.e., search stops working, menus stop responding, restart is broken.) Even the OLED readout on the motherboard is frozen. The RGB light + fans stay on, but nothing else responds. I have to hit reset. Unfortunately, there are no BSOD or Event Viewer logs that point to the cause.

I am genuinely running out of ideas as to what might be causing this.

*I have not had it hang when running default settings... But cannot completely rule it out. Memtest does not show memory errors either, on stock or XMP.
 
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#8,087 · (Edited)
trihy said:
That seems like an storage issue.
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The freezing/locking up that I'm experiencing when overclocking? Perhaps. System drive may have been put through one too many stability/stress tests and blue screens at this point. But I thus far have not managed to get it to hang when running stock or crash if running stock settings on CPU and RAM. I plan to run stock for a few days now just to be sure, and possibly also restore a backup of the drive to another SSD for testing.

If, however, you're talking about the ROG DIMM.2_1 WHEA-17 errors and high PCH temps when PCI-E Native Power Management is enabled... No, I don't think so. At least not directly. I have 2 x SN850, 2 x SN850x, and a few PCI3 NVME. All the WD PCI-E 4.0 drives throw WHEA-17 errors if installed ROG DIMM.2_1, as long as PCI-E Native Power Management is enabled and DIMM.2_1 is operating at Gen4 speeds. This issue, and the associated high PCH temps... I don't think they're related to my instability directly. At least it's not specific to a particular drive. If anything, it's the port/motherboard.

However, and I don't know if it's relevant, the boot drive is installed in M.2_2, which are CPU PCI-E Lanes. May be why things lock up if the CPU isn't rock solid stable, and I also don't know if those are controlled by a different setting than 'PCI-E Native Power Management' for PCH.
 
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#8,088 ·
PoizenJam said:
I had the opposite problem on my Maximus Z690 Extreme + 13900k combo. When PCI-E Native Power Management is set to ENABLED, my PCH temps climb over 80C, and I get a host of random errors and freezes including (most prominently) tens of thousands of WHEA-17 errors on my ROG DIMM2_1 slot if a Gen4 NVME is installed in that slot. Note that Installing a Gen3 or manually limiting DIMM2_1 to Gen3 mitigates the WHEA-17 errors. Disabling PCI-E Native Power Management dropped my PCH temps by almost 20C and resolved the WHEA-17 errors.

Unfortunately, I am still having a problem where my PC just sort of... Hangs if any OC is applied*. Even the basic out-of-the-box AIOC. I will usually wake up the next day to find my PC frozen sometime during the night and completely unresponsive. If I am at the PC when this happens, it usually manifests as a gradual lock-up of the OS (i.e., search stops working, menus stop responding, restart is broken.) Even the OLED readout on the motherboard is frozen. The RGB light + fans stay on, but nothing else responds. I have to hit reset. Unfortunately, there are no BSOD or Event Viewer logs that point to the cause.

I am genuinely running out of ideas as to what might be causing this.

*I have not had it hang when running default settings... But cannot completely rule it out. Memtest does not show memory errors either, on stock or XMP.
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That sounds like a bad motherboard. I know the first Z690 Extreme I bought was trash and would still pass testing on default settings. It would do a lot of the things you're describing here as well. I highly recommend you do an Advanced RMA so Asus will send you a replacement before you send the bad one back, otherwise I've read stories about Asus simply flashing the bios and shipping it back with the same problems :ROFLMAO:
 
#8,089 · (Edited)
LilOliVert said:
That sounds like a bad motherboard. I know the first Z690 Extreme I bought was trash and would still pass testing on default settings. It would do a lot of the things you're describing here as well. I highly recommend you do an Advanced RMA so Asus will send you a replacement before you send the bad one back, otherwise I've read stories about Asus simply flashing the bios and shipping it back with the same problems :ROFLMAO:
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Ironically this one board is an Advanced RMA after my first Extreme just kind of... failed to boot.

In any case, I've since 1.) Restored a working backup, 2.) Uninstalled programs I thought might be a problem, 3.) Loaded optimized defaults, 4.) Disabled Native Power + PEG ASPM, 5.) Enabled XMP + AIOC. So far so good- no freezing or lockups the first night, and it's passing Cinebench, y-cruncher pi, etc. this morning. But I know better than to assume all is good yet- but I'm happy that the out-of-the-box OC settings are working for the time being. I'd like to get back to actual OC tweaking and stability checks though- default AIOC is happy to throw 320W of high voltage at the CPU in Cinebench and I don't like that.

Since you also have the Extreme... Do you have a Gen4 NVME in the ROG DIMM accessory? Would be interesting to see if you get the WHEA-17 errors with the same settings I do (Gen4 in DIMM.2_1 w/ PCI-E Native Power Management and ASPM enabled. Frankly, it sounds a lot like the problem people were having early on with lots of Z690 boards and certain PCI-E lanes not operating at PCI4 properly about a year back. Gigabyte boards, MSI boards, and I think some Strix boards? Perhaps it wasn't noticed on the Extreme because it's a niche mobo and the problem slot is DIMM.2_1.... Or maybe my ROG DIMM is busted.
 
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#8,090 ·
PoizenJam said:
Ironically this one board is an Advanced RMA after my first Extreme just kind of... failed to boot.

In any case, I've since 1.) Restored a working backup, 2.) Uninstalled programs I thought might be a problem, 3.) Loaded optimized defaults, 4.) Disabled Native Power + PEG ASPM, 5.) Enabled XMP + AIOC. So far so good- no freezing or lockups the first night, and it's passing Cinebench, y-cruncher pi, etc. this morning. But I know better than to assume all is good yet- but I'm happy that the out-of-the-box OC settings are working for the time being. I'd like to get back to actual OC tweaking and stability checks though- default AIOC is happy to throw 320W of high voltage at the CPU in Cinebench and I don't like that.

Since you also have the Extreme... Do you have a Gen4 NVME in the ROG DIMM accessory? Would be interesting to see if you get the WHEA-17 errors with the same settings I do (Gen4 in DIMM.2_1 w/ PCI-E Native Power Management and ASPM enabled. Frankly, it sounds a lot like the problem people were having early on with lots of Z690 boards and certain PCI-E lanes not operating at PCI4 properly about a year back. Gigabyte boards, MSI boards, and I think some Strix boards? Perhaps it wasn't noticed on the Extreme because it's a niche mobo and the problem slot is DIMM.2_1.... Or maybe my ROG DIMM is busted.
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No, I'm sorry but I don't use the DIMM.2 accessory.
I've considered buying a couple 1TB M.2s to try it out in the past, but it's starting to look like more hassle than it's worth from what I've seen on here lately :unsure:
 
#8,091 · (Edited)
TSportM said:
2301 for me is fine got better memory stabilty and overclock, but it is what it is…. Milage may vary
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Hi. Does 2301 come with same MC as for 2204? And with what memory and what memory speed do you see an improvement? M-die or A-die? Or with both? And thanks for the feedback.

Other here that can share their experience with bios v2301 (Z690 Apex) ? Thanks
 
#8,092 ·
IAMXAM said:
Hello,

I hope all is well... my first post here. Two weeks ago I updated my BIOS from 1720 to 2204 (Intel ME 16.1.25.2020) and ran into a slew of issues (BSOD, etc.) and spent the last two weeks troubleshooting (reinstalling windows, attempting to roll back to 1720, etc.) all the way to the BIOS_B and now back to BIOS_M. I'm back up and running now for the most part (on BIOS_M with all basic drivers, etc. installed), but previously I was running 12GB: 2x 2x32GB DIMMs all set to AUTO in the BIOS (iirc 4000 Hz). Now I can get the computer to boot properly only on 64GB: 2x32GB (slots A2, B2) on AUTO (4800 Hz).

When I first built the rig back in August I ran memtest on all four DIMMS at 4000Hz and encountered no errors.

This past weekend I ran mdsched on each DIMM individually (in slot A2) and mdsched on 2x32GB (A2, B2)... all resulting in no errors.

Today I dropped in the other two DIMMs to put me back on 128GB: 2x 2x32GB (everything set to to default/optimal settings in BIOS aka F5) to hopefully run mdsched, but the computer wont boot into Windows. I pulled the two DIMMS and back on 2x 32GB and did a system restore point (repair didnt work) back into Windows.

What did 2204 change or what is the possible causes that I can't run four DIMMs? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Intel i9 12900KS
ASUS ROG Z690 MAXIMUS EXTREME GLACIAL
GSKILLZ 2x 2x32GB DDR5 6000 30-40-40-96
ASUS ROG STRIX LC 3090Ti OC
SKHYNIX M.2 NVME 2TB for Windows 10 22H2 (M.2_2)
ASUS ROG THOR 1200W
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I've this happen when I upgraded to the 13900K. I no longer remember what BIOS I was running before, but I remember it being the one before the initial Raptor Lake support dropped.

I was running 4x16GB modules of DDR5 5200 on the 12900K. I had to manually dial down the frequency to 4800 but never once had it crash during heavy load or randomly freeze/BSOD/lockup.

As soon as I upgraded to 2004 and installed the 13900K, the 4 modules config were still booting fine. But after updating to 2103 and now 2204 I just can't seem to boot with the 4 modules installed, no matter what I do.

Even without any overclocking at all and only 2 RAM modules installed, I have noticed the system is now freezing randomly at night with no issues coming up on Event Viewer or WHEA errors detected by HWInfo. Similar to what was mentioned by @PoizenJam above.

I have no clue as to what could be going on here.

System Specs:

Intel i9 13900K
ASUS ROG Z690 MAXIMUS Extreme
Corsair Dominator 4x16GB DDR5 5200 C38.
Gainward Phantom GS RTX 4090
Corsair MP600 PRO XT 4TB OS drive.
Corsair AX1600i PSU.
 
#8,094 ·
sblantipodi said:
Never flash a beta BIOS from these guys.

They treat us as paying beta testers and they don't even care to test them extensively before the release.

Don't forget when they released a completely broken firmware to Microsoft saying the the coulprit was Intel xD.

Why test an untested bios that can harm your motherboard that can't even be reverted to previous bios?

These mobos are expensive enough to let Asus pay some beta testers that does the dirty job for us.

We are not beta testers, they don't even care to tell what's the difference between the old beta and the new one, it's like Hey, we scrambled a bit, lets see if It improved something or if It created more problems than before because we don't even want to test It ourself. xD
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This is a very harsh comment. Those beta BIOS-es are here for enthusiasts. If you have doubts, you should visit the official ASUS page, and not the forums.
 
#8,096 ·
injurer said:
This is a very harsh comment. Those beta BIOS-es are here for enthusiasts. If you have doubts, you should visit the official ASUS page, and not the forums.
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Yes agree also @sblantipodi i understand your furstration, but all manufactures have problems, you dont see them posting in this forum beta bios or other info (guides etc) (very rare) asus did drop the ball not on motherboards but al products but also other manufacters, your problem is related to using 4 dims, intel shows that information , if you want to overclock dont use 4 dimms, i dont consider my self a beta tester they provide the bios and dont ask for feedback then dont create a discussion on it on this forum on it.

on 2301 is for me the best bios so far so.... if you want to test improvements ditch does 2 modules you have


cheers
 
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#8,097 ·
PoizenJam said:
Ironically this one board is an Advanced RMA after my first Extreme just kind of... failed to boot.

In any case, I've since 1.) Restored a working backup, 2.) Uninstalled programs I thought might be a problem, 3.) Loaded optimized defaults, 4.) Disabled Native Power + PEG ASPM, 5.) Enabled XMP + AIOC. So far so good- no freezing or lockups the first night, and it's passing Cinebench, y-cruncher pi, etc. this morning. But I know better than to assume all is good yet- but I'm happy that the out-of-the-box OC settings are working for the time being. I'd like to get back to actual OC tweaking and stability checks though- default AIOC is happy to throw 320W of high voltage at the CPU in Cinebench and I don't like that.

Since you also have the Extreme... Do you have a Gen4 NVME in the ROG DIMM accessory? Would be interesting to see if you get the WHEA-17 errors with the same settings I do (Gen4 in DIMM.2_1 w/ PCI-E Native Power Management and ASPM enabled. Frankly, it sounds a lot like the problem people were having early on with lots of Z690 boards and certain PCI-E lanes not operating at PCI4 properly about a year back. Gigabyte boards, MSI boards, and I think some Strix boards? Perhaps it wasn't noticed on the Extreme because it's a niche mobo and the problem slot is DIMM.2_1.... Or maybe my ROG DIMM is busted.
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I have 2x Samsung 980 Pro on my dimm.2 slots but I don't have this problems.

Extreme mobo is a crap and I have other problems with pc hanging on boot if I use Corsair icue along with my dominator memory but that it's another story.
 
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And both are running at Gen4? Please note I earlier advice you to disable PCI-E Native Power Management, and that also eliminates the errors I experience with the ROG DIMM.2_1 slot. So you won't get the WHEA-17 errors on the ROG DIMM if you followed that advice. I suppose it's possible that there is an unfortunate interaction or incompatibility between the MOBO and Western Digital SN850 / SN850x drives on my end. I'm trying to convince ASUS to RMA my ROG DIMM accessory to check if that's the problem- wish I had a non-WD NVME laying around to test though.

I also wish I knew how to set the Extreme's OLED to its default behaviour (i.e. when booting up, it cycles through all its readouts). Once Armoury Crate is installed it takes over. Worse yet, I have noticed that the system RGB will stutter if the OLED is playing an animation or set to a custom readout cycle. Kind of regret buying this board more each day.
 
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#8,099 ·
dyanikoglu said:
Did they forget password of rog forums or something like that?
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Seems like it.

What a smart move to shut down the old forum while working on a new one.
 
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#8,100 ·
PoizenJam said:
And both are running at Gen4? Please note I earlier advice you to disable PCI-E Native Power Management, and that also eliminates the errors I experience with the ROG DIMM.2_1 slot. So you won't get the WHEA-17 errors on the ROG DIMM if you followed that advice. I suppose it's possible that there is an unfortunate interaction or incompatibility between the MOBO and Western Digital SN850 / SN850x drives on my end. I'm trying to convince ASUS to RMA my ROG DIMM accessory to check if that's the problem- wish I had a non-WD NVME laying around to test though.

I also wish I knew how to set the Extreme's OLED to its default behaviour (i.e. when booting up, it cycles through all its readouts). Once Armoury Crate is installed it takes over. Worse yet, I have noticed that the system RGB will stutter if the OLED is playing an animation or set to a custom readout cycle. Kind of regret buying this board more each day.
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This just reminded me how my RGB would flicker randomly when I used 2 different fan ports for my 2 ThermalTake sync controllers on the faulty Z690 Extreme I had. Now I want to try that on this board, but I might as well wait until my new 360mm cooler arrives and do all the tinkering at the same time :geek:
 
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