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#61 ·
wrathchild67 said:
No change in CPU behavior after disabling the Windows microcode file. Turbo is still broken after resuming from sleep.
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Ok I searched a little bit and having really low clocks after sleep seems common. Most people resort to restarting their PC. Seems it ultimately comes down to a buggy bios where C states are not working properly. People have even tried disabling them with no change in wake behavior. Easiest thing I found to try was just going into your power plan and changing it. (should be on performance) but toggle it over to balanced/apply then back to performance. Seems to reset it. It doesn't seem the issue is related to overclocking just a buggy bios on any given device.
 
#62 ·
frankr2994 said:
Ok I searched a little bit and having really low clocks after sleep seems common. Most people resort to restarting their PC. Seems it ultimately comes down to a buggy bios where C states are not working properly. People have even tried disabling them with no change in wake behavior. Easiest thing I found to try was just going into your power plan and changing it. (should be on performance) but toggle it over to balanced/apply then back to performance. Seems to reset it. It doesn't seem the issue is related to overclocking just a buggy bios on any given device.
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Changing the Windows power profile after the sleep bug happens has no effect, but changing the profile in Throttlestop does. Unfortunately, the turbo boost that is restored is not as good as the default turbo boost. CB R23 goes down to 13,200. I think this is the end of the road. For my system, cold booting and using Throttlestop to get just a bit of extra performance is the best solution.
 
#63 ·
hey just keeping the place posted on progress. Dual cpu system running an e5-2630v3. 8 core low power who cares cpu lol. Modded the bios and removed the Overclocking lock, MSR lock,configurable power limits lock and bios lock. no microcode mod. Able to set the multiplier up higher than 3.2ghz which is the max turbo speed. Catch though. Only 1 cpu overclocks. the other stays at stock clocks. since this revolves around doing a software overclock trying to find something like TS or XTU that supports dual cpus. Right now the program that can change the multiplier is quick cpu. raised the multiplier upto 35 and increased voltage and power limits. runs all core turbo at that. So far all of you using a single e5-26xx v3 cpu this seems to be a valid option. no microcode update no weird bugs. but still playing with it. Will keep this place posted as I get stuff figured out.
 
#64 ·
frankr2994 said:
hey just keeping the place posted on progress. Dual cpu system running an e5-2630v3. 8 core low power who cares cpu lol. Modded the bios and removed the Overclocking lock, MSR lock,configurable power limits lock and bios lock. no microcode mod. Able to set the multiplier up higher than 3.2ghz which is the max turbo speed. Catch though. Only 1 cpu overclocks. the other stays at stock clocks. since this revolves around doing a software overclock trying to find something like TS or XTU that supports dual cpus. Right now the program that can change the multiplier is quick cpu. raised the multiplier upto 35 and increased voltage and power limits. runs all core turbo at that. So far all of you using a single e5-26xx v3 cpu this seems to be a valid option. no microcode update no weird bugs. but still playing with it. Will keep this place posted as I get stuff figured out.
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Have screenshot validations. You would be the first person I have seen with an overclocked 26XXV3 CPU beyond the turbo.
 
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#65 ·
gtz said:
Have screenshot validations. You would be the first person I have seen with an overclocked 26XXV3 CPU beyond the turbo.
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good point. I'll get something real posted. I'm not working on this machine personally. I wrote the bios mod for him and we're going back and forth with progress. He sent me some screenshots but they are not what I would call official. I'll get him to get me a better one.
 
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frankr2994 said:
good point. I'll get something real posted. I'm not working on this machine personally. I wrote the bios mod for him and we're going back and forth with progress. He sent me some screenshots but they are not what I would call official. I'll get him to get me a better one.ww
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Ask him to run a CPUz validation, then provide the direct link to this thread. That way we know he's "official"
 
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Communication is through discord. Problem right now is the clocks wouldn't work on any sort of a load. At all. I have screen shots showing that there was a higher clock applied but wasn't usable for anything. Ended up doing the microcode mod and now can run max stock turbo under full load but multiplier adjustment has went away. Trying to diag what's changed. Should have time this weekend to hopefully sort it out. I have an e5-2640v3 sitting here that I will try to use to replicate in my system if I think we have it.
 
#68 ·
gtz said:
Have screenshot validations. You would be the first person I have seen with an overclocked 26XXV3 CPU beyond the turbo.
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This guy has apparently done it as well... it appears as though it is possible, but then he says under full load, it goes back to 2.8GHZ (which is all core turbo)...So i dont know what to make of this.

LOL even though i cant OC im still in 2nd place for max freqency.
 

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storm-chaser said:
This guy has apparently done it as well... it appears as though it is possible, but then he says under full load, it goes back to 2.8GHZ (which is all core turbo)...So i dont know what to make of this.

LOL even though i cant OC im still in 2nd place for max freqency.
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Hitting a power limit maybe. Now I have read about increasing the ratio but it never stuck even though it was reported thru HWInfo64. That was the goal for the hack initially, since in the beginning certain consumer CPUS (mostly laptop, launched first) were unlocked with the hack. Then ucode and stilt did all kinds of experiments and write ups. I really thought it would be hacked by now but all the heavy hitters moved one.

2011V3 was a very versatile and in my opinion an impressive platform. To me it was the pinnacle of Intel. Impressive CPUs, up to 24 cores (if you hunt down ES/QS Broadwell samples) and fast. At a time AMD only had bulldozer cores. All work on the same socket.
 
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gtz said:
Hitting a power limit maybe. Now I have read about increasing the ratio but it never stuck even though it was reported thru HWInfo64. That was the goal for the hack initially, since in the beginning certain consumer CPUS (mostly laptop, launched first) were unlocked with the hack. Then ucode and stilt did all kinds of experiments and write ups. I really thought it would be hacked by now but all the heavy hitters moved one.

2011V3 was a very versatile and in my opinion an impressive platform. To me it was the pinnacle of Intel. Impressive CPUs, up to 24 cores (if you hunt down ES/QS Broadwell samples) and fast. At a time AMD only had bulldozer cores. All work on the same socket.
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It's my only fun at the moment playing with this stuff. So I'm going to try and get it all sorted out. Bonus doesn't cost me anything to piss with it lol.
 
#71 ·
I have had my Huananzhi f8 running for three years now with a 2699 , but had to reload the turbo unlock again recently. For some reason the profile I had didn't seem to perform correctly, so I used the Mi899 tool to do an undervolt profile. To get the processor to not throttle too much, I had to do a -100/50 profile. It is stable, and works well, but now my wake from sleep has quit again. Not sure if that's the issue, but I am hesitant to change it, because that is the first time it hasn't been bouncing around on throttle
 
#72 ·
poberman66 said:
I have had my Huananzhi f8 running for three years now with a 2699 , but had to reload the turbo unlock again recently. For some reason the profile I had didn't seem to perform correctly, so I used the Mi899 tool to do an undervolt profile. To get the processor to not throttle too much, I had to do a -100/50 profile. It is stable, and works well, but now my wake from sleep has quit again. Not sure if that's the issue, but I am hesitant to change it, because that is the first time it hasn't been bouncing around on throttle
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I reloaded the undervolt profile and it works now. I was also able to tighten up the timmings. Currently setting up NVlink 2080ti. Will keep you posted
 
#73 ·
Just ordered an E5-2696V3 for US$51 delivered!! Best V3 in the lineup. DDR3 compatible. Turbo-UNLOCK (TU)! I am currently using the E5-2678V3 (12C/24T) with TU and can get all cores at 3.29Ghz on a HuananZhi X99TF with DDR3 1866 (Mushkin Redline desktop ram in 4 channel). I am using Youtuber "MiyConst" 's script, which makes the TU script mod easy and seamless (a few clicks on the mouse with this program and voila, done). He has it for fee available on his GitHub page...the program is named "Mi899". Basically, you download the file and install. Find your motherboard and run. There are two microcode editors to choose from, as I recall. MiyConst has an easy to follow tutorial on his channel, which takes 10 minutes to watch. Easy to follow...he is an engineer that is very competent and clear in his method. [caveat: that being said, I am not a software developer...just a nuclear engineer].
Although the E5-2678V3 runs very cool, even with all-core TU, I do keep a set of 90mm fans blowing over the VRM power delivery for safe measure (noise is no issue for me, I run with headsets mostly and the system is open; on a vertical test-bench).
Note, the E5-2678V3 has a lower TDP (120W) than the monster E5-2696V3 (TDP 145W). Will have to tread carefully with this one with this CH motherboard. We shall see!!!
 
#75 ·
Had a E5-2699 V3. All core turbo was 2.8 GHz by default and 2.6 GHz when AVX-256 kicked in. I've tried the microcode removal thing on Asrock X99, but to no avail. I actually have never heard of the all core turbo unlock on branded X99 motherboards, only those third party recycled boards which typically use lesser chipsets.
 
#76 · (Edited)
My Asrock X99 unlocked just fine. You have to use some different method to unlock it for AVX. Prepared drivers from Payne for example. I use it without undervolt and never had problem with TDP/EDP even in Limpack.
Also my mobo allowed to me boost BCLK up to 105 MHz.

Also you need to configure your bios:
-remove cpu microcode
-disable c6-state
-add power to chipset
-enable High BCLK filter
-disable FIVR events
-etc...
Try older bios to get access to some features or modify it via AMIBCP

Can someone find the way to disable BCLK Limits? I tried to redirect clockers via Flash Image Tool, tried to disable/mask some ERROR Registers and many other things. My limit fixed at exact 105MHz, system stable at 104.9 but Virtualization can pass it a little (shows 105.5 over 104.9 on bios) so that means we can pass that trigger some how else via deep settings. Maybe some microcode from unlocked cpu may help?

Just passed the limit little bit to 105.1
Seems I need more power to boost core's freq higher.
Don't someone know some good signed driver for MailBox MSR register via Windows? I trying to get access to one from Smart Game Booster but not sure that is easy to find there required functions for
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#77 ·
upd:
I've got 2696v3
With my Asrock it easily overclocks up to 4004 mHz , did not try any more.
BCLK 105.4
RAW driver works just fine on it. Turbo Boost still working after Sleep mode. But TDP/EDP is not so fun, frequencies cutted off. Bug FIVR helps nothing.
That is my results at this moment:
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#78 ·
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4016 mHz
If I try more the system drops frequency to default BCLK. There is few technics in AMIBCP5 to allow processor pass the test and get few mHz more but the cost is Correctable Errors on buses. It may be invisible in use but for stable system I don't want it. EDP still the problem anyway
 
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