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XLabradorX

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Good morning everyone.

Next I'm going to put all the specifications of my PC, and that together we all see what could be improved, although I think it is the processor and motherboard 100%.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600XT 6 Core Processor
RAM: 16 GB RAM Kingston 2666MHz
GPU: RTX 3060 6GB
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M (I think I could only put up to a Ryzen 5500, which would not improve my PC much either, right?)
Hard Drives:
ST31000528AS 1T
KINGSTON SA200M8500G 500GB
KINGSTON SA40037240G 240GB

Monitors:
Samsung UE22D5003
LG 28MT42VF
(Both are TVs that reach 59-60Hz)

What would you guys change and for which component?

Thank you very much to all of you.

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maltamonk said:
Need more info on which gigabyte b450m. There are 11. That said your gpu and tv's are jointly limitations. Leaning towards RAM, but not sure
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Motherboard is gigabyte b450m ds3h v2.

The GPU is a RTX 3060 It is a good graphics card.

The FPS limitation is the TV, but I don't think that's what's wrong with the PC.

As for the RAM, maybe I could limit the 2666Mhz it has, but I don't know.
 
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IMAO, 3060 to a 3070, RAM to something over 3,000 MHz.

What resolution are your TVs running? If they are 1080p then they're fine, but if they run 4K natively, change it something lower like 1080p. That will add a ton of FPS. The processor should be fine for gaming. PC Magazine says the AMD Ryzen 5 3600XT would give the i5 10600K a "run for it's money" so it's a good processor.

Your motherboard should support up to 3,600 MHz RAM. I am using an i7 10700K, which for gaming purposes is likely similar to the i5 10600K. So the major difference between my system and yours is that I am using 3200 MHz RAM and a 3080TI. I was using a 3070 and it was working great, so I think RAM first and then think about the video card if the RAM doesn't offer enough of an improvement. That's a pretty pricey upgrade, but it would have the most effect on your FPS.
 
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What games do you play where you are experiencing problems?

What resolution do you play at? With the TV's you listed I'm assuming you are running at their max res of 1080p. correct?

2666 ddr4 is extremely slow and holding back your cpu, but depending on the above questions the 3060 can still very much be the bottleneck here.

The biggest issue here is those TV's are not designed with gaming in mind at all, even compared to a very cheap 1080p pc monitor. If you are feeling poor response, input lag, etc. it's likely the TV's themselves. A 3600xt with a 3060 is a fine setup for any game at 1080p.

The LG TV listed has 8ms listed for gtg which is horrid and I'm sure the Samsung is no better. I'd borrow a proper recent computer monitor and play on that first to see if the issues (which you really haven't described yet) are actual hardware issues or just the TV's being not designed for any sort of gaming.
 
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SoloCamo said:
What games do you play where you are experiencing problems?

What resolution do you play at? With the TV's you listed I'm assuming you are running at their max res of 1080p. correct?

2666 ddr4 is extremely slow and holding back your cpu, but depending on the above questions the 3060 can still very much be the bottleneck here.

The biggest issue here is those TV's are not designed with gaming in mind at all, even compared to a very cheap 1080p pc monitor. If you are feeling poor response, input lag, etc. it's likely the TV's themselves. A 3600xt with a 3060 is a fine setup for any game at 1080p.

The LG TV listed has 8ms listed for gtg which is horrid and I'm sure the Samsung is no better. I'd borrow a proper recent computer monitor and play on that first to see if the issues (which you really haven't described yet) are actual hardware issues or just the TV's being not designed for any sort of gaming.
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I play Battlefield 2042, for example, and it runs at 60-70fps on low.

I play at 1366x768 resolution which is what the monitor itself recommends, because if I put it at 1080p, everything looks horrible, super small and with bad definition, so I'm playing at less than 1080p, which should go better, but it doesn't go.

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Regarding the RAM, I think it's what slows everything down, but not the GPU, since it's a 12GB RTX 3060, and I think it's not a bad graphics card at all.
 
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XLabradorX said:
I play Battlefield 2042, for example, and it runs at 60-70fps on low.

I play at 1366x768 resolution which is what the monitor itself recommends, because if I put it at 1080p, everything looks horrible, super small and with bad definition, so I'm playing at less than 1080p, which should go better, but it doesn't go.

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Regarding the RAM, I think it's what slows everything down, but not the GPU, since it's a 12GB RTX 3060, and I think it's not a bad graphics card at all.
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I also play 2042 and it is very cpu intensive. I was at 100% cpu usage on my 10 core i9 10900 and often at 4k with a mix of ultra and low settings (AMD 6900XT as gpu). With my 11900k it's about the same (slightly less usage though as my 11900k is faster than my prior 10900).

That said, when my ram was not tuned properly and running considerably slower I was getting FAR worse performance even with those cpus. When I resolved that issue my frame rate jumped 20-30fps in that title.

In 2042 a 3600xt with memory at 2666 is holding you back a lot. Your 3060 is definitely not the problem here, especially at 768p.

A cheap kit of decent 3600mhz (I'd recommend 2x16gb for a total of 32gb if you intend to keep this pc for newer games).

Do you have a particular store you buy from and what is your budget?

Long story short, yes, your CPU is being held back by your memory for this game and your CPU is also holding back your gpu. If you can somehow manage a cpu like the 5700x or even 5600x plus a faster kit of memory your performance will jump up a lot in that title.
 
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SoloCamo said:
I also play 2042 and it is very cpu intensive. I was at 100% cpu usage on my 10 core i9 10900 and often at 4k with a mix of ultra and low settings (AMD 6900XT as gpu). With my 11900k it's about the same (slightly less usage though as my 11900k is faster than my prior 10900).

That said, when my ram was not tuned properly and running considerably slower I was getting FAR worse performance even with those cpus. When I resolved that issue my frame rate jumped 20-30fps in that title.

In 2042 a 3600xt with memory at 2666 is holding you back a lot. Your 3060 is definitely not the problem here, especially at 768p.

A cheap kit of decent 3600mhz (I'd recommend 2x16gb for a total of 32gb if you intend to keep this pc for newer games).

Do you have a particular store you buy from and what is your budget?

Long story short, yes, your CPU is being held back by your memory for this game and your CPU is also holding back your gpu. If you can somehow manage a cpu like the 5700x or even 5600x plus a faster kit of memory your performance will jump up a lot in that title.
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I will listen to you about the RAM memory, I will use 3600MHz and I will increase it to 32GB.

As for CPU, do you recommend the 5600x over the 5700x?
 
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XLabradorX said:
I will listen to you about the RAM memory, I will use 3600MHz and I will increase it to 32GB.

As for CPU, do you recommend the 5600x over the 5700x?
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If the price gap isn't huge, the 5700X is definitely worth it if you intend to keep the pc for a while. 2042 is a game that uses the extra cores so ideally a 5700X but either will be quite a bit better over the 3600 you have.

Try the memory first (go for a cl14-cl16 kit if you can) and if you don't get the performance you want than grab a newer cpu. Due to the new generation being out you may be able to find them for a discount but I'm not familiar with your area's part pricing.

Here is an older chart but I've highlighted the cpu's' in question. No 5700X but it's only a hair slower than a 5800x. Keep in mind the 3600x listed here is using much faster memory than you currently are. Also, the game has only become more multicore aware and cpu demanding so a 8 core is going to have a larger gap than shown here.

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SoloCamo said:
If the price gap isn't huge, the 5700X is definitely worth it if you intend to keep the pc for a while. 2042 is a game that uses the extra cores so ideally a 5700X but either will be quite a bit better over the 3600 you have.

Try the memory first (go for a cl14-cl16 kit if you can) and if you don't get the performance you want than grab a newer cpu. Due to the new generation being out you may be able to find them for a discount but I'm not familiar with your area's part pricing.

Here is an older chart but I've highlighted the cpu's' in question. No 5700X but it's only a hair slower than a 5800x. Keep in mind the 3600x listed here is using much faster memory than you currently are. Also, the game has only become more multicore aware and cpu demanding so a 8 core is going to have a larger gap than shown here.

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So if I want the 5700X I should change the motherboard?

gigabyte b450m ds3h v2 is compatible with the AMD RYZEN 7 5700X?

In any case I will start with the RAM, and then the processor.
 
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XLabradorX said:
I play Battlefield 2042, for example, and it runs at 60-70fps on low.
I play at 1366x768 resolution which is what the monitor itself recommends, because if I put it at 1080p, everything looks horrible, super small and with bad definition, so I'm playing at less than 1080p, which should go better, but it doesn't go.

View attachment 2604043

Regarding the RAM, I think it's what slows everything down, but not the GPU, since it's a 12GB RTX 3060, and I think it's not a bad graphics card at all.
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Your OP says your 3060 has 6GB of RAM.
In any case, it should handle 1366 x 768 easily. Upgrade your RAM and try another monitor.
 
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There's still tons and tons of good games from the last 10 years that should run fine w/ the 3600x and rtx3060, even at 1440p. I've never used a TV as a monitor, so IDK how much worse that would make some games.

If money was no problem, IDK what I'd upgrade 1st, maybe CPU since it's older than the rtx3060. I had a intel 9th gen with no hyper-threading, and that held me back even in Battlefield 1. Now I have a 12th gen w/ HT, and it's a lot better. 3600X has HT, but it's just older I guess for BF games.
 
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