5800X3D Owners

Owterspace · Apr 15, 2023

And really, I think most CPUs should be able to do -30, the clock range on the 58X3D is still under 4600MHz.. technically under 4500MHz since you don't really see anything more than that. HWiNFO will log it, but you will never really see it even though each core is capable of hitting 4550, at least on my sample.

Dziarson · Apr 15, 2023

The only thing that is rather useful is the negative offset. Because this processor is too warm. Otherwise in FPS games, 120Mhz gave me 10 average FPS. What's the point if without Bclk you have higher FCLK and more stable ram which gives a stable FPS LOW.

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MrHoof · Apr 15, 2023

Owterspace said:
And really, I think most CPUs should be able to do -30, the clock range on the 58X3D is still under 4600MHz.. technically under 4500MHz since you don't really see anything more than that. HWiNFO will log it, but you will never really see it even though each core is capable of hitting 4550, at least on my sample.

No you can still have bad cores even on a 5800x3d, I am not saying all have them but just one bad core can increase ALL CORE load voltage alot.
My core 3 is the 2nd worst and needs -5 to be be fully stable and this causes all core VID to this ****ty core, all core loads will always use the highest VID of any core requsted.
I can benchmark -30 CO in 3dmark and most others but ycruncher will crash core3.

BHS1975 · Apr 16, 2023

MrHoof said:
No you can still have bad cores even on a 5800x3d, I am not saying all have them but just one bad core can increase ALL CORE load voltage alot.
My core 3 is the 2nd worst and needs -5 to be be fully stable and this causes all core VID to this ****ty core, all core loads will always use the highest VID of any core requsted.
I can benchmark -30 CO in 3dmark and most others but ycruncher will crash core3.

Which test in ycruncher crashes?

ttnuagmada · Apr 16, 2023

So it will be a couple of weeks because im waiting on some stuff to come in to upgrade my loop a little bit, but I think I've decided im going to give direct-die a shot just for ****s and giggles.

AXi0M · Apr 16, 2023

Finally got my hands on a MSI SUPRIM X 4090 Liquid, quite the upgrade from my 1080Ti

Playing at 1440p doesn't seem to be as CPU limited as i thought it would be in the games i've tested so far (Cyberpunk, TLOU, Hogwarts) gpu is usually 85-99% load and the frame rates are about as absurd as the heat that comes from the dinky 240mm rad lol

mikalcarbine · Apr 16, 2023

It looks like MSI released the final version of their 1.2.0.8 BIOS, at least for my B550M Mag Mortar Wifi. Has anyone checked to see if the BIOS menu now includes CO?

@Verangry do you plan on modifying the final release with all of those other hidden options?

Verangry · Apr 16, 2023

The Final 1208 is identical to 1208 Beta accept the Security Patches.

If there is any need (of what ever reason) please send the Link to the BIOS File you wish to be modded then i will do it if i have time for.
I'm still on vacation (return is planed for end next week) so it'll take some time.

Otherwise stay with the Beta Mod.

CRULL · Apr 16, 2023

Thought I would share this. I can consistently now get 15,000+ in R23. The way I did this was by lowering cpu LLC to it's minimum. I am also running -30 all cores, -5000 on cpu telemetry and a cpu voltage offset of -.05 volts.

Owterspace · Apr 16, 2023

Why are you using LLC?

CRULL · Apr 16, 2023

Owterspace said:
Why are you using LLC?

I get a better all core boost by using it. If it's left at auto it runs on the actual setting of 3 which is what I had it on. Lowering it to 1 there is more voltage drop and a lower temperature for boosting.

Blameless · Apr 16, 2023

Owterspace said:
And really, I think most CPUs should be able to do -30, the clock range on the 58X3D is still under 4600MHz.. technically under 4500MHz since you don't really see anything more than that. HWiNFO will log it, but you will never really see it even though each core is capable of hitting 4550, at least on my sample.

My current sample is borderline enough that disabling C-states (which eliminates the C6 boost for that last 100MHz) is the difference between fairly quickly failing dual instances of core cycler and being able able to pass it (and everything else) indefinitely at -30 all-core CO.

This part can also do ~103MHz BLCK without issue, but even ~4.6GHz all core needs radically worse curves to be stable. I didn't fully validate such settings, but at least two cores needed a positive curve offset. If I had enough cooling I might play with it further, but it's entirely counterproductive with the setup I currently have.

MrHoof · Apr 16, 2023

BHS1975 said:
Which test in ycruncher crashes?

For core3 N64 is the one that causes whea18 and reboot most consistent 1-2 cycles. I did reapply thermal paste/tried dirffrent paste, its just running hotter then any other core.
But with CPPC this core is parked most of the time, so its not much of an issue. I wish amd would give you a option to disable specific cores.

Taraquin · Apr 17, 2023

neobpm said:
Can anyone tell me whats the best AMD CBS settings for a 5800x3d with a x570 Tomahawk for playing with the lastest AGESA?

If you get 1.2v SOC, 1.05 CCD/IOD, 1.1 VDDP I would lower them for lower temps in CBS. Also lowering EDC/TDC/PPT can be beneficial for temps and sometimes performance.

EEdera · Apr 17, 2023

silvia95guy said:
Sounds like a mobo with an internal clock generator, as that sounds like similar behavior when I was messing around with my 5800X non 3D on my B450 Tomahawk. One with an external clock gen, like the x570 Unify I have, only affects CPU and RAM speeds. Definitely need a mobo with an external clock gen to push further without corrupting/killing your drives.

Do you have the normal x570 unify?
Not the x570s variant right?
And you dont have issues with usb ports after 108mhz?

silvia95guy · Apr 18, 2023

Lowest said:
Yeah PBO -30 and bclk 102 is what most of us can get out of it unless you have a external clock generator.
Even then I doubt it would give much more, searched some threads with people who tried.
Only a handful succeeded bclk 105/106 with expensive motherboard + external clock generator

Yeah, I can do 105+ for benchmark runs, and I daily 104.20 BCLK with a +.0125V offset, with PPT to 140, TDC still 95, and EDC to 140 with PBO Curve at -24, -18, -18, -22,-22,-22,-24,-24.

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104.2 BCLK with RAM at 3751Mhz gave me the best TimeSpy CPU scores though, as at higher BCLK my RAM timings weren't quite stable, so something I am still working on for higher BCLK.
RAN AIDA64 after I had already had everything open and running, which is why my latency is higher.

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EEdera said:
Do you have the normal x570 unify?
Not the x570s variant right?
And you dont have issues with usb ports after 108mhz?

Yes, normal X570 Unify. I have not gone past 107 BCLK, but yeah I did experience some USB dropouts at that point.

EEdera · Apr 18, 2023

silvia95guy said:
Yeah, I can do 105+ for benchmark runs, and I daily 104.20 BCLK with a +.0125V offset, with PPT to 140, TDC still 95, and EDC to 140 with PBO Curve at -24, -18, -18, -22,-22,-22,-24,-24.

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104.2 BCLK with RAM at 3751Mhz gave me the best TimeSpy CPU scores though, as at higher BCLK my RAM timings weren't quite stable, so something I am still working on for higher BCLK.
RAN AIDA64 after I had already had everything open and running, which is why my latency is higher.
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Yes, normal X570 Unify. I have not gone past 107 BCLK, but yeah I did experience some USB dropouts at that point.

Mhm I thought it has an external clockgen
I really need a board with a real external clockgen, I want to do 110mhz without any usb issues

Nighthog · Apr 18, 2023

Blameless said:
My current sample is borderline enough that disabling C-states (which eliminates the C6 boost for that last 100MHz) is the difference between fairly quickly failing dual instances of core cycler and being able able to pass it (and everything else) indefinitely at -30 all-core CO.

This part can also do ~103MHz BLCK without issue, but even ~4.6GHz all core needs radically worse curves to be stable. I didn't fully validate such settings, but at least two cores needed a positive curve offset. If I had enough cooling I might play with it further, but it's entirely counterproductive with the setup I currently have.

Yeah 102.55BCLK I had cores that could do no better than ~ -5 CO to be stable in general and the other half ~ -10 CO unless I wanted clock stretching to occur. (meaning I lost actual performance going lower)

EEdera · Apr 18, 2023

Nighthog said:
Yeah 102.55BCLK I had cores that could do no better than ~ -5 CO to be stable in general and the other half ~ -10 CO unless I wanted clock stretching to occur. (meaning I lost actual performance going lower)

Whats your max blck you can do without CO?

Nighthog · Apr 18, 2023

What I used, I have a third-party SATA controller that could only manage that far before it didn't work to detect attached drives more than that.

I've purchased a new m.2 nvme to replace the SATA boot drive that arrived in the last hour. If I remove all SATA I can probably push further if there is nothing else being a hindrance.
Though I've had issues with this Xtreme motherboard for a while so no idea if it works in the end or other issues just get in the way.
Though I might just rebuild my water cooling loop first when I change the drive.

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