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Overclocking "Raptor Lake refresh" - 14900k,14700k, 14600k etc results, bins and discussion
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Well, keep in mind now my 13900KS was below average too being a SP104. It had 1.483V VID’s for 6Ghz. I had tested far better KS chips. But with really amazing cooling I could extract the same thing in the end.
Bad chips need chillers.
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Ahhh thank you kindly for the info. I assumed as much but was unsure. Like the other guy said I feel it’s a useless number and the results can speak for themselves in any case.
I can’t believe they let chips this bad out.
Any news on the latest batches? Amazon ran out of stock and new stock is coming in the next couple days. Hoping for some new, good batches. I’ll report back with what I get this weekend.
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about 1.15v llc7
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I was interested to see the performance between asus and gigabyte when determining core vid voltage on the same processor and tested on both boards
ASUS seems to use the highest voltage on the P cores, while Gigabyte shows for each core. It may be useful for owners of Gigabyte motherboards to estimate the SP of their processors from the table of @Skunk0001
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ASUS seems to use the highest voltage on the P cores, while Gigabyte shows for each core. It may be useful for owners of Gigabyte motherboards to estimate the SP of their processors from the table of @Skunk0001
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My boards (Z790 Apex Encore) idle voltage is about 20mV below what I set. 1.16V set = 1.14V in windows at idle. With LLC7 it drops to about 1.091V in R23.
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It's below what you set because windows isn't completely idle. It's putting a load on your CPU.
Check in "Asus OCTOOL" -->RAW VRM then you can see the exact vcore and you can calculate it directly by "Starting Vcore - ( IOUT * LLC milliohms)"=Raw Vcore in OCTOOL.
HWinfo uses the super I/O and is at 9mv resolution while Raw VRM is in 1mv resolution (Check it).
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Even if you have (6) 140mm Noctua Industrial 3000rpm fans at full blast on a 420mm AIO? Takes a lot longer to reach peak liquid temp. I can run 5.8Ghz on all P cores when they are all active and it maxes out at around 86-88c depending on the ambient temperature in my room and how long I run the benchmark, but short full load runs at around 323watts maxes out at the above specified temps. The longer I run the benchmark test though, it would heat up more, but maybe just another 5-6c on my setup. My max liquid temp after its been gaming for hours is 31c. Cooler score is 195. I'd love to have a custom loop though with a 420mm radiator up top and a 480mm radiator in the front. I have an older Corsair 1000D super tower case, that can fit a small child inside it.
On a side note, my case is heavy as Fu**! I need two grown men to lift it.I think you can get 4x480 in that IIRC. Seems like one of the guys in the old 3090 thread had that setup.Edit:
Even if you have (6) 140mm Noctua Industrial 3000rpm fans at full blast on a 420mm AIO? Takes a lot longer to reach peak liquid temp. I can run 5.8Ghz on all P cores when they are all active and it maxes out at around 86-88c depending on the ambient temperature in my room and how long I run the benchmark, but short full load runs at around 323watts maxes out at the above specified temps. The longer I run the benchmark test though, it would heat up more, but maybe just another 5-6c on my setup. My max liquid temp after its been gaming for hours is 31c. Cooler score is 195. I'd love to have a custom loop though with a 420mm radiator up top and a 480mm radiator in the front. I have an older Corsair 1000D super tower case, that can fit a small child inside it.
I considered buying one of those but decided I didn't want a case quite that huge. I just have 2x480 external along with a couple of internal rads.
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Should I lower my Vmin if I'm running 5.9Ghz up to 68c and 5.8GHz up to 95c on all P cores synced? My current Vmin goes down to 1.3v for full loads and 1.43v idle. It can go lower, but what I've found by going lower is that my benchmark scores seem to reduce some even though the system is still stable. Is it because it's just not getting enough voltage for what the P cores actually request? I have a 13900KS SP 113 Overall and SP123 P cores.By good chips you mean SP115+ pcores, and by normal temps 20C water temps
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Tell me about it...just built this thing in a Dynamic Evo XL. 4090 and the Encore looks like small toys in there. This thing can fit three 420's i believe.Edit:
Even if you have (6) 140mm Noctua Industrial 3000rpm fans at full blast on a 420mm AIO? Takes a lot longer to reach peak liquid temp. I can run 5.8Ghz on all P cores when they are all active and it maxes out at around 86-88c depending on the ambient temperature in my room and how long I run the benchmark, but short full load runs at around 323watts maxes out at the above specified temps. The longer I run the benchmark test though, it would heat up more, but maybe just another 5-6c on my setup. My max liquid temp after its been gaming for hours is 31c. Cooler score is 195. I'd love to have a custom loop though with a 420mm radiator up top and a 480mm radiator in the front. I have an older Corsair 1000D super tower case, that can fit a small child inside it.
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Oh yeah, thats right..it comes with a 420mm fan bracket by default, but I did order the 480mm accessory fan try for up top if I decided to do that down the road. I like having the larger case because it makes it easier to add and remove computer hardware parts.
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Nice!!! I love large cases for some reason. Just easier to work on.
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Sure, but won't your benchmark scores go down when lowering the voltage too much, despite maintaining stability?
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I just tried lowering my Vmin another 20mV and my benchmark scores on CPU-Z actually went up!! maybe I was wrong after all?
Yea I have a Phantecs Evo Pro 2 for that reason. Got tired of working in a smaller case.
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Maybe late next week🙏, or week after that. I’m waiting for it to be delivered.
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SP104 13900KS is not below average at all..its for like average. I have (2) 13900KS CPUs one is an SP98 overall and My personal one I use on my PC is an overall SP113 and SP123 P cores. Its quite amazing really. Way better than the **** 14900K SP92 I got. I can run the same frequencies as the 14900K I got on my 13900KS, but at around -80mV lower. Probably more than that. My current Vmin under full load for 5.9Ghz up to 68c and 5.8Ghz afterwards using TVB, is 1.275v. I haven't even tried going with a lower vMIN, but it may very well be fine even lower for this frequency?
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First of all, nice chip, under 0.8V for 2400MHz and under 0.7V for idle, quite nice. I have seen similar but then the VID for 5.6 and above was horrid.
As for your question, yes, you get more info on Gigabyte, I think somewhere it can be shown in ASUS BIOS too, not sure, but regardless, it's useless, as you can only set the VID or VCore for the CPU, not for cores alone, and always for the P Cores.
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Took my 14600KF for a spin on my dual compressors strong single stage @ -64c for fun and hwbot points . Absolut Max that i could bench was P-cores 6307 Mhz / E-cores 4.5Ghz / Ring 4.8 at max 1.50v. Asrock Z790 NOVA / Cheap G.Skill 2x24GB 6800Mhz kit @ 8208Mhz Cas 36. Fun little chip to play with. 8400Mhz memory was not playing nice under sub-sero temps. need to revisit as i think the voltages changed versus ambient temps. for that profile as i can run 8400Mhz stable on ambient. Got some good results and a lot of points at hwbot. This cpu is a great candidate to run it on liquid nitrogen 😁 , to be continued ...
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chispy`s 106134 MIPS score: 7-Zip with aCore i5 14600KF (6P)
The Core i5 14600KF (6P) @ 6307.7MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the 7-Zip benchmark. chispyranks #117 worldwide and #27 in the hardware class. Find out more at HWBOT.
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chispy`s 58751 points score: Geekbench3 - Multi Core with aCore i5 14600KF (6P)
The Core i5 14600KF (6P) @ 6300MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the Geekbench3 - Multi Core benchmark. chispyranks #90 worldwide and #25 in the hardware class. Find out more at HWBOT.
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chispy`s 1 min 7 sec 266 ms score: GPUPI for CPU - 1B with aCore i5 14600KF (6P)
The Core i5 14600KF (6P) @ 6300MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the GPUPI for CPU - 1B benchmark. chispyranks #null worldwide and #9 in the hardware class. Find out more at HWBOT.
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chispy`s 11227 cb score: Cinebench - R20 with aCore i5 14600KF
The Core i5 14600KF @ 6212.1MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the Cinebench - R20 benchmark. chispyranks #63 worldwide and #22 in the hardware class. Find out more at HWBOT.
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chispy`s 23.48 fps score: HWBOT x265 Benchmark - 4k with aCore i5 14600KF (6P)
The Core i5 14600KF (6P) @ 6100MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the HWBOT x265 Benchmark - 4k benchmark. chispyranks #83 worldwide and #9 in the hardware class. Find out more at HWBOT.
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