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Overclocking "Raptor Lake refresh" - 14900k,14700k, 14600k etc results, bins and discussion
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TBH you shouldn’t also base your results off what a few people are posting. I mean we see people running 8600/8800 on the Apex. Does that mean everyone can? No ofc notinstead of going through the thread yourself you "call bullshit" on the first screenshot you see?
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there are lots of options to play around with with just the power plan alone!
I wouldnt really recommend installing a "custom OS" because its all closed source, you never know what bs could be installed.
My advice as someone who works on his own windows is that you should also do it yourself with NTlite.
It will take some time to find out what works best but its worth it in the end.
You have full controll over what you want and dont want + you can manage the services incase you just want a bench OS. You can get down to like 26-30 services this way.
Also how do you start the benchmark in the demo? I have not found the option to do so yet, i only have a 6900XTU but id like to see how many fps i get with my Windows + 14900K
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i have no interest in the Apex thread myself yet since i dont own it but im sure not everyone is posting 8600+ results.
The fact that a 4 dimm board can even do 8400 to begin with is insane, so even if it doesnt always do 8400 it seems like a worth while board for half the price of the Apex if youre looking for a good ram OC
I don't disagree with you, I just wouldn't expect that 8K is a given, even on the Nova.
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12600 to 14700 is better all around, I almost went with 12600k. Yeah if 14700k was $100 less, it would be a lot more tempting to me. The 14900k is too much, and then the total power if I OC goes up a lot, and my CPU AIO cooler can't handle over ~250W already.
The last few gen's, at any time in their for-sale cycle, except maybe used, the xx900k's have always been too much $$ for me. I had an i7-2700k, I guess that was the last top tier CPU I had.
The last few gen's, at any time in their for-sale cycle, except maybe used, the xx900k's have always been too much $$ for me. I had an i7-2700k, I guess that was the last top tier CPU I had.
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Played a bit with Windows power plan settings explorer utility but I couldn’t get anything more out of the cpu and still have the same latency issues while idling.
I don’t know what custom os are doing and they can solve these latency issues as I have tested a few in the past and they were latency perfect. I believe the issue lies on the cpu idling settings in default win 11 as under load the latency massively improves and gets acceptable.
You just press play within steam and then it lets you choose what to run , just pick the cpu benchmark.
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The 14700K and 14900K generate the same heat but the 14700K does less work.
The 14900K is more efficient and also undervolts better. What I am trying to impress on you is that if you believe the 14900K is too much for your AIO, the 14700K will be also.
A 14700K is a 14700K because it runs hotter than a 14900K and they have to fuse it to a slower speed and disable 4 ecores because if they didn't, it would be crazy hot and generate too much heat.
A 14700K is a failed 14900K that they had to cripple. But they sell it at a 200 discount and it still is a formidable cpu. But it still requires a strong aio for sustained multicore.
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Okay guys, anyone hava any idea w.t.f. I killed in my Windows?
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What could lead Aida and Hwinfo to read wrong CPU usage while Task Manager is accurate?
What could lead Aida and Hwinfo to read wrong CPU usage while Task Manager is accurate?
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Probably because the first screenshot shows the test setup as "intel i9 14900k (ES), 2x24GB DDR5 Corsair Dominator Titanium 8000MT/s CL38 and Watercool Heatkiller IV CPU water cooler with MO-RA3 420 radiator. " Which is 4 DIMM board being run with 2 DIMMS on a custom loop with a MORA 420 and doesn't show a TM5 or y-cruncher pass.instead of going through the thread yourself you "call bullshit" on the first screenshot you see?
So 'reliably hitting 8000' which is what @Mylittlepwny2 called bullshit on does seem to need an asterisk. Because the first screenshots dont show a 4 DIMM board using all 4 slots to hit that XMP and dont show heavy hitting RAM stability testing that would further validate those screenshots.
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Sounds like your cpu voltage is too low when under load(vMIN). Crashes to desktop without error messages or crashes to desktop with "out of video memory" messages point towards the cpu not getting enough voltage under load. However, if you get crashes with directx errors it's likely the ram/memory.
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Cpu voltage is too low then. I had the same issue with games crashing. I lowered the cpu voltage too much. It seems some games are more sensitive than some benchmarks for testing vMIN under load.
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Does Tuning the Core PLL help with lowering CPU voltage? If so how do you know what to set the Core PLL to? 🤔 I was stable in benchmarks at 1.275v vMIN under load for 5.9Ghz to 68c and 5.8Ghz after, but as soon as I started trying to play games they would crash. Had to increase my voltage back up.
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Start with core pll at 1.02, 1.035 and up to see if it allows you lowering the vcore.
On my 13900 1.035 was the sweetspot, 1.05 on both 14900.
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What's the default Core pll voltage?
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That is why you need to use the proper stresstest tools for that - and time. Edge-OC is probably not the best as a daily setting for gaming.
Falkentyne said it was 0.9v if I remember correctly.
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It's 0.9v I just looked. I'm trying 1.05v and it raised my cpu temps under full load. Is that normal?
Edit: now I'm not sure if that's what's causing my temp to go up or not.
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P6.0/E4.7/R4.9 HT/off DDR5 8200 CL38
Ok I gave it a go and HemuV2 your 4080 and 13900KS is blazing fast at 5.7.
There were some variations in score, like if you had internet tabs open it was lower, and there must be a few extra things to bump it, but yea I can't wait for the 5090 to replace it.
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Start with 1.0 --20mV then 35mv then 50mv
So the logic should start from lower to higher.
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+1 @StreaMRoLLeR
Yes it is 0.9v.
I can't tell as it is harder to notice from my side.
By how much?
Could be an eventual slightly different ambient temp as well?
Try from 1.02 up to 1.05.
The sweet spot varies between cpu's, mainboards as well (not sure between an og Apex and Encore)
Sometimes It helps getting around 15mv improvement, it could also give nothing.
Pll tweaking was mandatory on my low sp 13900 to get 60x all core (1.035 on the apex, 1.05 with the elite ax)
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