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Hi everyone, i have an old MSI Z270 sli mobo with a GTX 1080 Gaming oc , i know it's a pci express 3.0 , but can i install a rtx 3060 oc if it's pci express 4.0, or which card could i install to perform better tan my 1080, i know my PC was old and i would keep it for the rest of the years
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No reason why new card wouldn't work on that mobo, but 3060 won't be much of an upgrade over a 1080 TBH... It's got more VRAM and supports RT & DLSS but the actual performance is only like 15% higher than a 1080. IMO 3070, 4060Ti, or Radeon 6700XT would be a better upgrade from a GTX 1080.
 
No reason why new card wouldn't work on that mobo, but 3060 won't be much of an upgrade over a 1080 TBH... It's got more VRAM and supports RT & DLSS but the actual performance is only like 15% higher than a 1080. IMO 3070, 4060Ti, or Radeon 6700XT would be a better upgrade from a GTX 1080.
True, but the 1080 is starting to fall further behind due to the lack of certain (hardware) features, such as mesh shaders.
 
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Having gone from 1080 to 3070, I think thats a good jump. 3060, is a bit underwhelming. I would look to the 3060ti over the 3060. The price difference of the 3060 to 3060ti isnt much, but the difference between 3060 and 3060ti is like 50% of the difference between 1080 and 3060. The VRAM advantage of the 3060 vs 3060ti is not an issue, mostly because the 3060 doesnt have enough performance to play in the resolutions that need the extra VRAM. 3060 is a 1080p card, 3060ti can play in 1440p. 3070 is a better option, as is the 4060ti, but you need to look for deals.

In the past year, I picked up 2x 3070, one for $250 and the other for $290. A 3060ti for $240 (shipped pricing). Pricing was better during the summer. I still have the 1080, and will throw it in a different build just for fun. 3060 pricing on the used market typically overlaps the 3060ti a good amount (overvalued IMHO), so I think its just better to start looking at the Ti or the 70 unless you have a specific need for more VRAM.

And I did have the 1080 on a z270 platform. Depending on your title, you may see more uplift going to a new platform than with the new GPU. I mostly play Destiny2, and I had little to no change with the 3070 at 1080p, mostly because much of my performance was CPU limited. I could run about 90-110fps at 1080p with low to medium (optomized settings). With the 3070, that was roughly the same. Only that it didnt matter whether I ran 1440p maxed out settings or 1080p optomised settings, the performance was basically identical.

Going to 5600x, it went to 120-140fps range. 5800x3d, I frame limit to 140fps at 1440p and typically see the lowest FPS of 139. This game is not optomised well, but just be aware that depending on the title you may or may not see much of a change in performance. Destiny requires strong single thread performance (5ghz 7700k wasnt enough).
 
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Having gone from 1080 to 3070, I think thats a good jump. 3060, is a bit underwhelming. I would look to the 3060ti over the 3060. The price difference of the 3060 to 3060ti isnt much, but the difference between 3060 and 3060ti is like 50% of the difference between 1080 and 3060. The VRAM advantage of the 3060 vs 3060ti is not an issue, mostly because the 3060 doesnt have enough performance to play in the resolutions that need the extra VRAM. 3060 is a 1080p card, 3060ti can play in 1440p. 3070 is a better option, as is the 4060ti, but you need to look for deals.

In the past year, I picked up 2x 3070, one for $250 and the other for $290. A 3060ti for $240 (shipped pricing). Pricing was better during the summer. I still have the 1080, and will throw it in a different build just for fun. 3060 pricing on the used market typically overlaps the 3060ti a good amount (overvalued IMHO), so I think its just better to start looking at the Ti or the 70 unless you have a specific need for more VRAM.

And I did have the 1080 on a z270 platform. Depending on your title, you may see more uplift going to a new platform than with the new GPU. I mostly play Destiny2, and I had little to no change with the 3070 at 1080p, mostly because much of my performance was CPU limited. I could run about 90-110fps at 1080p with low to medium (optomized settings). With the 3070, that was roughly the same. Only that it didnt matter whether I ran 1440p maxed out settings or 1080p optomised settings, the performance was basically identical.

Going to 5600x, it went to 120-140fps range. 5800x3d, I frame limit to 140fps at 1440p and typically see the lowest FPS of 139. This game is not optomised well, but just be aware that depending on the title you may or may not see much of a change in performance. Destiny requires strong single thread performance (5ghz 7700k wasnt enough).
I want to buy full built at the end of the years, i don't haven't any trouble to play whatever i want since i buyed a 1440 2k 32" screen, i playing BDG3 at mid low setting but the game are not fluid and sometimes player not walk it literally slide ont the floor...
Sorry for my English i don't know all the terms
I'm gonna look for a 3060ti or maybe a 307if i'm lucky, someone here talk about rx 6700, it's all about the same price range
 
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Having gone from 1080 to 3070, I think thats a good jump. 3060, is a bit underwhelming. I would look to the 3060ti over the 3060. The price difference of the 3060 to 3060ti isnt much, but the difference between 3060 and 3060ti is like 50% of the difference between 1080 and 3060. The VRAM advantage of the 3060 vs 3060ti is not an issue, mostly because the 3060 doesnt have enough performance to play in the resolutions that need the extra VRAM. 3060 is a 1080p card, 3060ti can play in 1440p. 3070 is a better option, as is the 4060ti, but you need to look for deals.

In the past year, I picked up 2x 3070, one for $250 and the other for $290. A 3060ti for $240 (shipped pricing). Pricing was better during the summer. I still have the 1080, and will throw it in a different build just for fun. 3060 pricing on the used market typically overlaps the 3060ti a good amount (overvalued IMHO), so I think its just better to start looking at the Ti or the 70 unless you have a specific need for more VRAM.

And I did have the 1080 on a z270 platform. Depending on your title, you may see more uplift going to a new platform than with the new GPU. I mostly play Destiny2, and I had little to no change with the 3070 at 1080p, mostly because much of my performance was CPU limited. I could run about 90-110fps at 1080p with low to medium (optomized settings). With the 3070, that was roughly the same. Only that it didnt matter whether I ran 1440p maxed out settings or 1080p optomised settings, the performance was basically identical.

Going to 5600x, it went to 120-140fps range. 5800x3d, I frame limit to 140fps at 1440p and typically see the lowest FPS of 139. This game is not optomised well, but just be aware that depending on the title you may or may not see much of a change in performance. Destiny requires strong single thread performance (5ghz 7700k wasnt enough).
Finally i buyed a 4060Ti and i'm now bottlenecked😅 my I5 7600k was overload.. when i play Baldur's Gate 3 the graphics look incredible, ray tracing 🥰, but i suffer some bug or minor freeze😓 so i got to lowering graphics settings.
 
If the system is waiting on CPU to show a frame, then you want to reduce the frames. That can either be done by increasing the work needed to be done on the GPU side, or with a frame limit in software where the output is equal or less than the refresh rate of the monitor.

I limit my frames on all of my systems to a few frames under my monitors refresh rate, with g-sync on. This removes almost all screen tearing. I also increase the render resolution and non CPU intensive gfx settings until I start to see a dip in frames from where I have it locked.

Essentially, you are reducing the wait on CPU scenarios by increasing or limiting the GPU output.
 
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If the system is waiting on CPU to show a frame, then you want to reduce the frames. That can either be done by increasing the work needed to be done on the GPU side, or with a frame limit in software where the output is equal or less than the refresh rate of the monitor.

I limit my frames on all of my systems to a few frames under my monitors refresh rate, with g-sync on. This removes almost all screen tearing. I also increase the render resolution and non CPU intensive gfx settings until I start to see a dip in frames from where I have it locked.

Essentially, you are reducing the wait on CPU scenarios by increasing or limiting the GPU output.
First sorry for my i do my best...
When i make a compatibility check it tell my cpu reduce the gpu by 30% because it's bottleneck. Ok for reduce the frame limit but even whit my 1080 my cpu haved difficult to run the game smooth, so.... My options is, and not the best considering a already put money on monitor and gpu, is to buyed old I7 7700k, return my 4060 TI, or buying a budget Amd mobo and cpu Am4 to save my components, and, it's not the best buyed a used I7 7700K and being bottlenecked a 15% vs 30%
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I wouldnt sink anymore $ into a gen 7 intel system. can easily find AMD 5600 and mobo combos on ebay for under $200, which are considerably better.

I had 7700k with 1080 GPU which I used for a few years. Depending on how the games multi-core performs, you may see no difference with 7700k vs 7600k.

AMD 5500 even has more performance than 7700k, I wouldnt recommend getting a NEW AM4 platform, AM5 would be the better choice in long term. But, check the used market in your area for 5000+, and see if there is anything for a decent deal.

In the game that I play (Destiny), its easy to hit CPU bottlenecks. But its more single core performance than multicore. 7700k with the 1080 I would get 90fps lows, 5600g 110fps lows. 5600x 130 fps lows. 5800x3d, 140fps. This is after adjusting gfx quality settings to optimize performance at 1080p. Now I am at 1440p with 2080ti or 3070 (depending on system that I am using). I limit my frames to 140fps and undervolt the GPU. This takes load off the CPU, and makes the game feel smoother. I did this also with the 7700k/1080 setup, but had it setup at 120fps frame limit.
 
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I wouldnt sink anymore $ into a gen 7 intel system. can easily find AMD 5600 and mobo combos on ebay for under $200, which are considerably better.

I had 7700k with 1080 GPU which I used for a few years. Depending on how the games multi-core performs, you may see no difference with 7700k vs 7600k.

AMD 5500 even has more performance than 7700k, I wouldnt recommend getting a NEW AM4 platform, AM5 would be the better choice in long term. But, check the used market in your area for 5000+, and see if there is anything for a decent deal.

In the game that I play (Destiny), its easy to hit CPU bottlenecks. But its more single core performance than multicore. 7700k with the 1080 I would get 90fps lows, 5600g 110fps lows. 5600x 130 fps lows. 5800x3d, 140fps. This is after adjusting gfx quality settings to optimize performance at 1080p. Now I am at 1440p with 2080ti or 3070 (depending on system that I am using). I limit my frames to 140fps and undervolt the GPU. This takes load off the CPU, and makes the game feel smoother. I did this also with the 7700k/1080 setup, but had it setup at 120fps frame limit.
 
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