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Link to the motherboard @ ROG CROSSHAIR X870E APEX | Gaming motherboards|ROG - Republic of Gamers|ROG Global

AMD CPUs and the legendary Apex series combine forces for the first time in the ROG Crosshair X870E Apex

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Back in 2017, we debuted a new series of motherboards laser-focused on giving enthusiasts an impeccable platform for record-breaking performance. Bearing the name “Apex,” these boards have shattered overclocking records generation after generation. Yet for all the trophies that this motherboard series has amassed, there’s one frontier that it has yet to cross. To date, no Apex motherboard has supported AMD CPUs. But all that is changing. Today, we’re ready to announce the all-new ROG Crosshair X870E Apex.
That’s not all. While we’re not ready to share as many details, the Apex isn’t the only new motherboard joining the ROG Crosshair X870E family in 2025. We’re currently developing the ROG Crosshair X870E Extreme, a no-holds-barred EATX motherboard that will set new standards for the series in performance, connectivity, and personalization.

Built for extreme memory overclocking
The ROG Crosshair X870E Apex is still in development, so consider this a sneak peek. The current plan is to finalize its design, put it in the hands of professional overclockers, and then release it for general availability by the end of Q1 2025. We'll keep you updated as we get closer to launch. For the latest news on the Apex and other upcoming products, as well as a friendly place to chat with other PC building enthusiasts, consider joining the ASUS PC DIY Community or the ROG Discord channel.
But even now, we’re able to pull back the curtain on many elements of the ROG Crosshair X870E Apex. If the Apex series has a calling card, it’s the memory layout. In order to reduce interference to the IMC, Apex motherboards run two DIMM slots instead of four, sacrificing raw capacity to attain record-breaking frequencies.

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Given the rich history of the Apex series, we had to deck this motherboard out with the advanced features that overclockers need for exotic cooling. It features our Extreme OC kit, including LN2 Mode. The ReTry button streamlines the process of rebooting during extreme overclocking in order to achieve a successful POST, while the customizable FlexKey button provides quick access to a variety of functions. And a wealth of Probelt measurement points arms enthusiasts with the information they need about voltages.
The ROG Crosshair X870E Apex’s overclocking capabilities aren’t merely academic — it’s already proving itself as a contender in the quest for world records.

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Professional OC-er SAFEDISK has already achieved eight Global First Place records using the ROG Crosshair X870E Apex and an AMD Ryzen 9 9950X. There’s more, and it’s sure to attract the attention of anyone with memory-sensitive workloads. We installed a particularly choice 48GB DDR5 memory kit from G.SKILL, and ran the show with an AMD Ryzen 5 8500G CPU. We were able to push the memory kit all the way up to 10,200MT/s — using air cooling.

Staying cool under pressure
Given the performance ambitions of the ROG Crosshair X870E Apex, this motherboard needs an impeccable set of cooling hardware. Tall and thick heatsinks joined with an L-shaped heatpipe absorb heat from the board’s robust power solution, and these sinks are integrated with the I/O cover to increase the surface area for heat dissipation.
A rich selection of fan headers lets you hook up a substantial cooling system in your chassis. In addition to a standard 4-pin AIO Pump header ready for convenient AIO CPU liquid coolers, you’ll find a W_PUMP+ header with the extra amperage often necessary for custom liquid cooling loops.
If you’ve dialed in an aggressive overlock for your CPU and memory, you might want some additional air movement across your memory sticks and VRM heatsinks. In the box, you’ll find an ROG Memory Fan Kit. This optional accessory attaches easily to a convenient mounting point on the board and directs a stream of air that runs parallel to your DIMMs.
Flip the Apex over, and you’ll see a key element of its arsenal of cooling technologies. Nearly the entire rear side is sheathed in metal armor, providing structural rigidity and passive cooling.

Ready for next-gen hardware
The ROG Crosshair X870E Apex’s robust toolkit for CPU and memory overclocking claims center stage, but its comprehensive support for cutting-edge graphics card and storage deserves some attention, too.
The motherboard features two PCIe 5.0 x16 slots ready for the fastest graphics cards on the market. While multi-GPU setups are a thing of the past when it comes to gaming, creators and AI enthusiasts can often take advantage of more than one graphics card for their workflows. Accordingly, the Apex’s two PCIe x16 slots can be run in an x8/x8 configuration.
The latest PCIe 5.0 SSDs offer dazzling transfer speeds, and the ROG Crosshair X870E Apex is equipped to let you take full advantage of them. Featuring not one but three PCIe 5.0 M.2 slots, this board empowers you to build a blazing-fast storage array. Our M.2 Q-Latch system allows you to install drives without fiddling with a tiny screw, and the beefy M.2 Heatsink for the primary slot offers tool-free installation, as well.
Need even more storage options? In addition to the three PCIe 5.0 M.2 slots, this motherboard offers two PCIe 4.0 M.2 slots on the bundled ROG DIMM.2 Card and four SATA 6Gbps ports.

Versatile, high-speed connectivity
WiFi 7 has arrived, and this is a bandwagon that you won’t want to miss. WiFi 7 boasts a massive speed increase over WiFi 6 along with congestion-busting tech tailor-made for today’s connected homes. The ROG Crosshair X870E Apex gives you a 2x2 WiFi 7 module, and it supports 320MHz channels to let you get the most out of the 6GHz band. The ASUS WiFi Q-Antenna makes sure you get a great connection, and we give you comprehensive support on the software side, too. AI Networking II, integrated into the Armoury Crate App, uses AI-enhanced identification and boost technology to ensure faster and smarter network optimization. The new Traffic Monitor feature tracks your current WiFi channel usage and makes it easy to switch to a less-congested channel.
The next-gen bandwidth of PCIe 5.0 connectivity allows us to deck this motherboard out with a premium selection of USB ports. Its selection is headlined by two 40Gbps USB4 ports on the rear panel. These versatile ports are your go-to choices for connecting high-speed external storage devices, high-resolution displays, and more. Eight more USB ports in a variety of speeds make it easy to connect the rest of your battlestation.
Convenient front-panel connections make for an easy everyday experience with your PC. With the ROG Crosshair X870E Apex, you’ll find a header ready to hook up a front-panel USB 20Gbps port with Quick Charge 4+ support. Ready for up to 60W fast charging, it’ll make it easy to keep your smartphone and other devices topped off while you’re using your PC.

More information to come
As we get closer to the launch of the ROG Crosshair X870E Apex and the ROG Crosshair X870E Extreme, we’ll have more information to share about their cutting-edge feature sets and support for extreme overclocking. But one thing is sure: these boards will stand out from the competition as premium picks for your AMD Ryzen 9000 Series CPU. Currently, we plan to release these boards by the end of the first quarter of 2025. Stay in touch with us here and on social media for further updates.
For more information on the pricing and availability of the ROG Crosshair X870E Apex in your region, please contact your local ROG representative.

 
Discussion starter · #2 · (Edited)
I had the lucky opportunity to test this board a few days before announcement, so i thought i could share my own preliminary results here, but do note this is very far from finalized results :)

Hardware used for my short test:

Delidded 9950X ES running PBO
ROG CROSSHAIR X870E APEX
2x16GB G.Skill Trident Z5 Royal Neo A-DIE @ 1.76 VDD / 1.55 VDDQ
Very large custom cooling with mora

First off we have some short karhu run, only 1 hour durations do to time constraints.
Core Tuning @ level 2 = over 10mb/s higher throughput then anything i managed on the GENE, ended at a wooping 372.3mb/s :cool:

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With everything open bandwidth drops alittle, but still much higher than anything else :cool:
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Also did alittle test in GB3 on the same boot which netted me a wooping 15.2k / 14.75k memory score which is very good for a 9950X i would say
To top it all off, 49k in Cinebench R23 MT while still running PBO ;)
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I also did a short 1 hour karhu run @ Core Tuning = legacy -> 53.9ns in AIDA64
Do note is pretty much only in AIDA the latency drops almost 10ns, while Clam latency stays the ~same
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All in all i can say from my short test that this board have sick memory performance/effiency, and VDD ceiling seems much better than other boards running agesa 1.2.0.2B
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Would recommed if your looking for a memory tweaking board (y)
 
Discussion starter · #3 · (Edited)
I also had the time to do some hwbot y-cruncher runs to really test the memory performance/tweaking, and i'm happy to report that i finally managed to beat all LN2 guys with my custom watercooled 9950X in 5B, 2.5B and even 1B :love:

Delidded 9950X ES
ROG CROSSHAIR X870E APEX
2x16GB G.Skill Trident Z5 Royal Neo A-DIE @ 1.85 VDD / 1.55 VDDQ running ~8550MT/S CL32 GDM disable
Very large custom cooling with mora

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Look at that SOC 👀

When is this board launching 1/17/2025?

Most new 800 series boards launched today,.. I can't find the Apex on any sites yet, no PreOrder,...
 
Most new 800 series boards launched today,.. I can't find the Apex on any sites yet, no PreOrder,...
The ROG Crosshair X870E Apex is still in development, so consider this a sneak peek. The current plan is to finalize its design, put it in the hands of professional overclockers, and then release it for general availability by the end of Q1 2025.
As we get closer to the launch of the ROG Crosshair X870E Apex and the ROG Crosshair X870E Extreme, we’ll have more information to share about their cutting-edge feature sets and support for extreme overclocking.
 
Dimm.2 is nice to have on Amd 😁
 
Uau!!! I'm amazed!!!

How much will it cost? A round figure just to have an idea.

If all 5 M.2 slots are occupied, what speed will PCIEX16_1 run when PCIEX16_2 is empty?
 
@domdtxdissar I'm so happy that you got the X870E-Apex. Keep it going and congrats to @safedisk (Asus) for this new great board!

I compared it with the values of my Gene (bought it again). Yes the Gene is realy great but if you will have ALL, so absolutely recommend to get the Apex for AM5.
IMO the future are in memory speed and latency e.g. for players, cause more and more playing in 2K or 4. Almost every current CPU and many GPU's ≥ 16GB will still have enough power.
 
would this board support cudimm(not bypass)?
To add to safedisk reply
CUDIMM support is not about this or that board, it's a chipset level limitation. Current AMD chipsets only works with bypass mode.
 
To add to safedisk reply
CUDIMM support is not about this or that board, it's a chipset level limitation. Current AMD chipsets only works with bypass mode.
So no CUDimms support for x870 ( without bypass ) and only for x970? I guess no bios update will change that right?
 
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