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So no CUDimms support for x870 ( without bypass ) and only for x970? I guess no bios update will change that right?
My post was my understanding of the situation with CUDIMM.
I'm not an insider of AMD, so I'm not sure if it's something they can make work with an AGESA update. I bet Amit Mehra and Bill Alverson could answer the question. xD
 
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My post was my understanding of the situation with CUDIMM.
I'm not an insider of AMD, so I'm not sure if it's something they can make work with an AGESA update. I bet Amit Mehra and Bill Alverson could answer the question. xD
Sure my friend. But it always a question mark for me if we were waiting for proper support via bios update or if there was more technical constrains behind not having the proper support for CUDimms. So thank you :)
 
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To add to safedisk reply
CUDIMM support is not about this or that board, it's a chipset level limitation. Current AMD chipsets only works with bypass mode.
A chipset limitation or a CPU/platform/AGESA limitation?

Either the CPU (IOD) memory controller supports CUDIMMs in hardware or they don't. In the later case, no current CPU will support CUDIMMs, outside of bypass mode.

If the hardware does, then they will evidently need an AGESA update to enable full CUDIMM support.

AM5 doesn't strictly even need a chipset and the chipset in and of itself shouldn't have anything to do with memory, other than an arbitrary limitation/flag put in the firmware for market segmentation...which shouldn't be relevant here, unless they are saving the feature for the 900 series (and why?).
 
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A chipset limitation or a CPU/platform/AGESA limitation?

Either the CPU (IOD) memory controller supports CUDIMMs in hardware or they don't. In the later case, no current CPU will support CUDIMMs, outside of bypass mode.

If the hardware does, then they will evidently need an AGESA update to enable full CUDIMM support.

AM5 doesn't strictly even need a chipset and the chipset in and of itself shouldn't have anything to do with memory, other than an arbitrary limitation/flag put in the firmware for market segmentation...which shouldn't be relevant here, unless they are saving the feature for the 900 series (and why?).
since Zen6 will only come late in 2026 iirc, i guess we'll may have some mid-step refresh for the 9000 series, and they will wait for that moment to present the feature ... but pure speculation of course. If there's no CUDimm support, i will think twice before buying the Apex even if i want to move from matx back to atx, it won't bring muchio to my plate (not going to buy another 9800 and rely on silicon lottery again... for that i have may bad chip :D ). Lets see.
 
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Have ran a full suite of all multithreaded benches on hwbot with the ASUS ROG CROSSHAIR X870E APEX, and like i said earlier in this thread, APEX is showing really good efficiency together with excellent memory performance :love:

And because of this efficiency i managed to beat many subzero / LN2 user with only my custom watercooling.
You can add 6 global 16-core rank #1 entries to the APEX list @safedisk :ROFLMAO:

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Cinebench R23 MT = 50.2k points and ~19.6k in CPU-Z MT
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This looks more like a presentation of a hobbyist having some fun with golden sample cpu than a final product that offers anything special.

What more can this mobo offer compared to the crosshair hero with the same cpu and memory in a daily setup ? Any answer to this ?
(with ryzen 7000/9000 cpus, normal humanbeing cooling and normal dailiy voltages on both cpu and memory) (SOC: 1.435, VDD: 1.85 and VDDIO: 1.52 ???)

-Crosshair hero still doesnt have any memory supported more than 6800 mhz in its qvl list. (The offical web page havent been updated for months)
-706 bios is all over the place messed with bugs, people are whining about it.

And here we are to see testers having fun with their enginering sample motherboards and golden silicon cpus. Probably none of us will have that kind of cpus.

I am done with Asus false advertising in forums. First, finalize your insanely expensive ultra premium products that you sold to your customers. Do not release beta bioses and act like they are without any issues. Then you may start advertising your new premimum products with your influencers in the forums.

Asus, you should clean up your mess first ....
 
This looks more like a presentation of a hobbyist having some fun with golden sample cpu than a final product that offers anything special.

What more can this mobo offer compared to the crosshair hero with the same cpu and memory in a daily setup ? Any answer to this ?
(with ryzen 7000/9000 cpus, normal humanbeing cooling and normal dailiy voltages on both cpu and memory) (SOC: 1.435, VDD: 1.85 and VDDIO: 1.52 ???)

-Crosshair hero still doesnt have any memory supported more than 6800 mhz in its qvl list. (The offical web page havent been updated for months)
-706 bios is all over the place messed with bugs, people are whining about it.

And here we are to see testers having fun with their enginering sample motherboards and golden silicon cpus. Probably none of us will have that kind of cpus.

I am done with Asus false advertising in forums. First, finalize your products that you sold to your customers with insane amout of money. Do not release beta bioses and act like they are without any issues. Then you may start advertising with your influencers in the forums.

Asus, you should clean up your mess first ....
As a owner of a x870e Hero i agree with you 100%.

It´s frustating that paying that much we lack so many things. QVL ram is old. Like no updates since i have my motherboard.
Bios....next page.
The heatsink is huge but i couldt believe that only covers the capacitors close to the cpu. Behind the Ram nothing. I couldnt add a thermal pad cause the back plate only pass half.
The M.2 soickets for the ssd at the bottom only have the top with thermal pads. Not bellow like the other sockets. On top of that you have to unscrew a bit piece so you have to remove the gpu every time you want to access that area (and gamble removing the RTX 4090 every now and thebn with the power connector cable.....).
To access the heatsink for the 2 x870e chipsets you have to unscrew from behind so you have to undo the whole pc and put the motherboard out and unscrew (the thermal pads below the heatsink leaves much to be desired).
.....etc....740€ of motherboard!
 
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As a owner of a x870e Hero i agree with you 100%.

It´s frustating that paying that much we lack so many things. QVL ram is old. Like no updates since i have my motherboard.
Bios....next page.
The heatsink is huge but i couldt believe that only covers the capacitors close to the cpu. Behind the Ram nothing. I couldnt add a thermal pad cause the back plate only pass half.
The M.2 soickets for the ssd at the bottom only have the top with thermal pads. Not bellow like the other sockets. On top of that you have to unscrew a bit piece so you have to remove the gpu every time you want to access that area (and gamble removing the RTX 4090 every now and thebn with the power connector cable.....).
To access the heatsink for the 2 x870e chipsets you have to unscrew from behind so you have to undo the whole pc and put the motherboard out and unscrew (the thermal pads below the heatsink leaves much to be desired).
.....etc....740€ of motherboard!
Hey look, they are doing 6800 1:1 mhz with an extremely rare cpu (@ SOC: 1.435V, which is know to fry x3d cpus before) and acting like it's the ability of the motherboard.

meanwhile my X870E Hero with the latest 706 bios, sometimes boot the gpu with pcie gen2, sometimes refuses to boot with the same setting that were working perfectly fine for 1 week.

just lol ...
 
Hey look, they are doing 6800 1:1 mhz with an extremely rare cpu and acting like it's the ability of the motherboard. lol ...
And i forgot to mention something i think its very very important.

We are BETA-TESTERS.
 
what is it even for?
It is a workaround to avoid the annoying 0d error which you can get when you reboot your machine and multiple monitoring tools are running.
E.g. Afterburner, L-Connect, Armoury Crate, HWinfo

The main culprit seems to be L-Connect 3 from Lian Li.
They fixed the issue with version 2.0.23 but it is back with version 2.0.24

@domdtxdissar Thank you! wanted to have that confirmed since I probably plan to buy the Apex to replace my Extreme
Got so many new grey hair since I got this board :ROFLMAO:
 
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