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Hey All, I have been building PC's for a long time but never made the jump to a custom water cooling loop. I curretly have a 13900k and 4090 MSI Suprim Liquid, I am not going to upgrade the GPU to the 6000 series so decided its time. I am looking for validation that the loop I am thinking of going with is OK. Case is fine for two radiators + GPU AIO. Custom Cooling Configurator | Custom Loop Configurator Any thoughts most welcome.
 
Loop looks good but I would add a water temp sensor. When you tune your fan curve, tune it off your water temp vice your CPU temp.
 
Man, EK pricing is ridiculous. $189 for the Velocity2 is criminal. $216 for the reservoir+pump is also nuts, especially since the EK D5's don't run full speed like a Xylem re-brand, if I remember correctly.

I would really think about using the configurator as a "guide" to what parts you need, and then ordering them from other companies. Heatkiller, Alphacool, HardwareLabs, etc.
 
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Holy wow thats a lot of money! $137 for fans ?!
I already have the fans, just cant remove from there system.



Man, EK pricing is ridiculous. $189 for the Velocity2 is criminal. $216 for the reservoir+pump is also nuts, especially since the EK D5's don't run full speed like a Xylem re-brand, if I remember correctly.

I would really think about using the configurator as a "guide" to what parts you need, and then ordering them from other companies. Heatkiller, Alphacool, HardwareLabs, etc.
Is there a particular brand you would recommend over another? As this is my first loop, kind of like the idea of having everything from a single manufacture for ease.
 
Man, EK pricing is ridiculous. $189 for the Velocity2 is criminal. $216 for the reservoir+pump is also nuts, especially since the EK D5's don't run full speed like a Xylem re-brand, if I remember correctly.

I would really think about using the configurator as a "guide" to what parts you need, and then ordering them from other companies. Heatkiller, Alphacool, HardwareLabs, etc.
Corsair D5 pumps are the lower speed versions you're thinking of. As far as I know the EK D5 pumps have never had a known issue with being tooled to run at lower speed.
 
I already have the fans, just cant remove from there system.




Is there a particular brand you would recommend over another? As this is my first loop, kind of like the idea of having everything from a single manufacture for ease.
I think I'd recommend almost any other brand for your watercooling parts. EK has treated it's staff poorly, customer service and support can be almost non-existent at times, and pricing and performance are sub par.

I'll go with others who have recommended Watercool/Heatkiller, Alphacool, and HardwareLabs as well as Aquacomputer.
If you're looking for lower cost but still pretty reliable you can always go with Bykski or Barrow.

Good luck and Godspeed.
 
Is there a particular brand you would recommend over another? As this is my first loop, kind of like the idea of having everything from a single manufacture for ease.
All the companies I mentioned before. Heatkiller has excellent radiators, blocks, pumps, reservoirs.. you could order everything from them direct, and with that many components you should hit free shipping.

Their EPDM tubing is also excellent.

I really recommend going a different route than EK, even if you had to do order from multiple places.

Check out Heatkiller! Startseite - Watercool: Hochwertige WasserkĂĽhlungen fĂĽr PC und Industrie
 
Seconding Watercool/Heatkiller and adding AlphaCool. Heatkiller has some of the best mainstream GPU blocks, and AlphaCool has some of the best CPU blocks. Both are better than EK.

Aquacomputer is also good for pumps, sensors, and fan controllers as well, but it's kind of an Apple-like ecosystem. Their software only controls their stuff, so it requires added investment if you want to keep monitoring/control software streamlined. It's worth it in my mind because you can set basic coolant temp controlled fan curves and just get rid of the software entirely so your cooling system doesn't have any impact on your OS.

The Suprim and Suprim Liquid have identical PCBs so you can use any 4090 Suprim block on your card. It doesn't look like Heatkiller has a block for it, but AlphaCool does. For your CPU, Heatkiller has a few options (the "PRO" versions have higher fin density and better performance, all metal blocks generall perform better, no matter the brand), but the Core 1 from AlphaCool is generally the best performing CPU cooler unless you really hate money or want to delid the CPU.
 
Heatkiller block and HWLabs radiator(s), Tygon A-60-G tubing...
 
You can't go wrong with either Watercool, Alphacool or Hardware Labs. Or all three; there's really no reason to insist on using just one brand, not least because it will reduce the chance of getting everything from one supplier.

EK I would stay well away from due to shady business practices, awful HR practices, inflated prices, at times shoddy QC and intermittent black holes in customer service. Their stuff is pretty, but that's where the benefits both begin and end.

Since you're in the UK I'd suggest having a look at Watercooling.co.uk instead. I've used them lots of times and have only good things to say.
 
Is EK even back to shipping stuff out? I ordered some 'in stock' stuff back in August as I had used them years ago with good results. After several months of the shipping date leapfrogging forward, I finally requested a refund. It took them until January before the refund got processed.
 
Hey All, I have been building PC's for a long time but never made the jump to a custom water cooling loop. I curretly have a 13900k and 4090 MSI Suprim Liquid, I am not going to upgrade the GPU to the 6000 series so decided its time. I am looking for validation that the loop I am thinking of going with is OK. Case is fine for two radiators + GPU AIO. Custom Cooling Configurator | Custom Loop Configurator Any thoughts most welcome.
Nothing wrong with it but personally I would go with 2 x 280. Less fans, less noise, similar performance. And buy quality 140mm fans, not from EK.
And I presume the watercooled 4090 is Nickel also, not copper. I wouldn't waste my time doing a custom loop if you aren't going to put a new block and include gpu in the loop.
And of course you have to then liquid metal the gpu! :p
And buy more then 1 litre coolant.
 
I really love how the Americans slag off EK when it was the US division under a US CEO where all the malarkey took place ROFL
 
I don't see how that's relevant. EK hasn't made anything worth what they are charging in well over 5 years, and probably closer to a decade. It's not like we're recommending American stuff, we're recommending other European stuff for the most part.
 
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