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Is anyone else experiencing lane splitting on their Apex? I just noticed that my 5090 is currently running in pcie gen 5 8x mode. I also have my nvme gen 5 plugged into socket m2_1 and a pcie gen 4 nvme plugged into the m2_2 socket
 
Is anyone else experiencing lane splitting on their Apex? I just noticed that my 5090 is currently running in pcie gen 5 8x mode. I also have my nvme gen 5 plugged into socket m2_1 and a pcie gen 4 nvme plugged into the m2_2 socket
Anything in m.2_2 or m.2_3 splits lanes. If you want the gpu at x16 you need to only use m.2_1, and either/both sides of the dimm.2
Same as hero
 
I think it was 1.7V on water cooled Ram .
Does DDR5 on AMD require a lot less VDD_mem than on Intel because of the low bandwidth, or is that kit just that amazing? I need 1.72 VDD_mem for 8600C34 on my 8400C40 1.40V Gskill kit.
 
On AMD it's lower I found .It is also direct touch water block . I think the mem controllers might be a bit different . I have a good 14900ks.
The kit is very good. 6000 CL26 is an amazing piece of gear , lots of my friends use the same type of kit and get good results. I have Gigabyte 8400 Ram and it's nowhere near this .
 
Are you finding that cudimms have worse performance or increased latency?

I just noticed a hairline fracture in the pcb of my best kit. Im sure i pinched it.
That was the 8000cl38 1.35v kit, non rgb, which is now sold out in the states

Back in the mix for a 48gb kit and wondering about any potential drawbacks of a cudimm in bypass. Ive seen mixed reports on this topic
 
Are you finding that cudimms have worse performance or increased latency?

I just noticed a hairline fracture in the pcb of my best kit. Im sure i pinched it.
That was the 8000cl38 1.35v kit, non rgb, which is now sold out in the states

Back in the mix for a 48gb kit and wondering about any potential drawbacks of a cudimm in bypass. Ive seen mixed reports on this topic
I think its all the same, CUDIMM has newer IC, some Gskill 6000 C26 thats 1.4v actually uses CUDIMM kits (the CKD is still on chip) as reported by TechPowerUp.
 
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I think its all the same, CUDIMM has newer IC, some Gskill 6000 C26 thats 1.4v actually uses CUDIMM kits (the CKD is still on chip) as reported by TechPowerUp.
I think that was the very early ones that had the chip. Then they moved to using the same PCB but without the CKD chip just the solder points and then a newer PCB without the CKD solder points.
 
Are you finding that cudimms have worse performance or increased latency?

I just noticed a hairline fracture in the pcb of my best kit. Im sure i pinched it.
That was the 8000cl38 1.35v kit, non rgb, which is now sold out in the states

Back in the mix for a 48gb kit and wondering about any potential drawbacks of a cudimm in bypass. Ive seen mixed reports on this topic
I have the 2x24GB M-Die TeamGroup 8800 CUDIMM kit, it runs good on AM5 in bi-pass mode.


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I have the 2x24GB M-Die TeamGroup 8800 CUDIMM kit, it runs good on AM5 in bi-pass mode.


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What real perf you gain with dram freq over 8000? We limited by fclk bandwidth, i think 8400 with hight timings worse than 8000 cl34/36
 
What real perf you gain with dram freq over 8000? We limited by fclk bandwidth, i think 8400 with hight timings worse than 8000 cl34/36
That 8400CL42 is a low voltage baseline profile, also the 6600CL30 profile is only baseline, for testing stability.

If you test 8400CL34/2200 vs 8000CL34/2200 you will understand how higher frequency effects perf gain. ;)
 
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Still trying to decide if I am going to keep the Apex or return it within the 30-day window. It's nice in some ways, but not worth the sacrifices it requires in some aspects of functionality or the added cost. I cancelled the pre-order three times, but the allure of an Apex was too great. But, it is falling short of my expectations as a former oowner of multiple generations (Z490, Z690 and Z790) of Intel Apex boards. If I return it I will probably replace it with another AORUS Master and be done. It leaves more to be desired than I expected it to, perhaps because my expectations were higher than they should have been. Even if I decide to keep it, I think it is a poor value for what little benefit is realized from owning it. Hardly anything is better than the Master or Gene. I think the limitations are more likely a factor in owning a Ryzen CPU more than the motherboard.
 
Zen 7 leak below

Nothing too interesting. I assume it will be on a new socket with ddr6 but who knows. By all accounts, zen 6 will be a monster with 12 core chiplets and a much better memory controller, so its understandable that zen 7 just iterates on it.
Side note; I hope they dont lock features behind the chipset for zen 6...like not allowing x670 to bypass cudimms even though its the same exact chipset! Hoping the apex remains a decent board through zen 6
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My American friend bought it from Newegg with the money I bank transferred her. She's shipping it from Baltimore to Toronto tomorrow. :)


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Guys, do the Apex RAM slots are reinforced, it's hard to see, usually there are metal braces on both ends, but from where I stand I don't see any
 
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Guys, do the Apex RAM slots are reinforced, it's hard to see, usually there are metal braces on both ends, but from where I stand I don't see any
Doesn't look like it to me. I don't see any.
 
Still trying to decide if I am going to keep the Apex or return it within the 30-day window. It's nice in some ways, but not worth the sacrifices it requires in some aspects of functionality or the added cost. I cancelled the pre-order three times, but the allure of an Apex was too great. But, it is falling short of my expectations as a former oowner of multiple generations (Z490, Z690 and Z790) of Intel Apex boards. If I return it I will probably replace it with another AORUS Master and be done. It leaves more to be desired than I expected it to, perhaps because my expectations were higher than they should have been. Even if I decide to keep it, I think it is a poor value for what little benefit is realized from owning it. Hardly anything is better than the Master or Gene. I think the limitations are more likely a factor in owning a Ryzen CPU more than the motherboard.
Doesn't get much better than the Gene .
Although the ASRock B650M-H/M.2+ is a cheapo board that performs amazingly on Ram and CPU , for overclocking of course.....not the prettiest or feature filled board you are used to :).
Gene could be a keeper , a future gem .
 
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