i currently have a 9800x3d and was thinking about getting a 9950x3d since its binned alot more, but just wanted to see if it worth it or not. (gaming only). clocks, and imc
9950x3d vs 9800x3d binning
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I have both, and mostly game and in my opinion it is not worth it. If you want more opinions I would post in this thread:
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Worth it is very subjective. They are clocked better. I run my cache CCD up to 5.65 GHz with it maxing out at 1.32V (PBO +100).
But this isn't going to do a whole lot for game performance. You might get a dud 9950X3D too. If a 9950X3D seems expensive to you then it isn't worth it, if you have money to blow on the hobby it might be. Probably more worth it if the hobby is overclocking v.s. gaming.
But this isn't going to do a whole lot for game performance. You might get a dud 9950X3D too. If a 9950X3D seems expensive to you then it isn't worth it, if you have money to blow on the hobby it might be. Probably more worth it if the hobby is overclocking v.s. gaming.
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understandable thank you for the insight, will most likley go with the 9800x3d. just want other opinions before i delid. also quick question i saw that you have a mycro direct die pro, how are you liking it and how does it compare to the supercool full copper one?Worth it is very subjective. They are clocked better. I run my cache CCD up to 5.65 GHz with it maxing out at 1.32V (PBO +100).
But this isn't going to do a whole lot for game performance. You might get a dud 9950X3D too. If a 9950X3D seems expensive to you then it isn't worth it, if you have money to blow on the hobby it might be. Probably more worth it if the hobby is overclocking v.s. gaming.
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then im 99% sure i will just be going with the 9800x3d all i need is the 3d cores and if the performace uplift from the binning is that marginal then, i guess it speaks for it self. then again im only doing this for most fps in gaming with in reason, not highest oc possible. thank you for the help
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will do :0 , so would the extra money be better spent throwing it at better 2 dimm mob then? instead of the 9950x3d
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When will ppl gonna learn that 200mhz, in a CPU like this, means nothing for gaming. Means so little that in highly controlled conditions, you wont get out of the margin of error. And if you do manage to measure it, is because you're running upwards of 3-400fps and you have more "resolution".
Synthetics will show up the difference, but not games, because a CPU like this is a lot more than frequency.
I would much rather have a 9800x3d fixed OC at 5300-5400mhz, than having a 9950x3d at 5.6ghz on one ccd or running pbo.
RAM is another story, but for you to take advantage of the RAM OC, you need games that take advantage of it. You need games that use the whole cache efficiently. Never the less RAM OC, even if in the moment doesn't show much gains, as it ages, 3-4 years down the road, the initial gains from RAM OC multiply by 2x to 4x, because games do get heavier and use the CPU more and better. At least, it's what happened historically.
A good example of this, are 5000x3d. Or 12 gen series with ddr4 vs ddr5. Those percentage differences, today are anywhere from to 2 to 3x, what they used to be at launch.
Synthetics will show up the difference, but not games, because a CPU like this is a lot more than frequency.
I would much rather have a 9800x3d fixed OC at 5300-5400mhz, than having a 9950x3d at 5.6ghz on one ccd or running pbo.
RAM is another story, but for you to take advantage of the RAM OC, you need games that take advantage of it. You need games that use the whole cache efficiently. Never the less RAM OC, even if in the moment doesn't show much gains, as it ages, 3-4 years down the road, the initial gains from RAM OC multiply by 2x to 4x, because games do get heavier and use the CPU more and better. At least, it's what happened historically.
A good example of this, are 5000x3d. Or 12 gen series with ddr4 vs ddr5. Those percentage differences, today are anywhere from to 2 to 3x, what they used to be at launch.
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cpu performance always better if extra heat generated isn't an issue
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It depends on your game, whether or not ht off is a performance increase
It depends on whether or not you can hit ddr5-8000 with your mobo and ram and imc bin
it also depends on how much micromanagement you want to do with affinities and priorities (process lasso). Eg. putting all other processes on ccd1, which putting only games on ccd0
It depends on whether or not you can hit ddr5-8000 with your mobo and ram and imc bin
it also depends on how much micromanagement you want to do with affinities and priorities (process lasso). Eg. putting all other processes on ccd1, which putting only games on ccd0
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I really like the Mycro direct die pro. The performance is excellent and it was very easy to install. I have no insight into the the supercool one, except I have seen people complain about the instillation. It looks pretty ridiculous to me, and I have no idea how you would get it off without getting water in the socket.
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The 9950X3D will mostly only help you "creating shaders" faster. Some games like TLOU1 and Warzone take a lot of time to do so. 9800X3D is still a little faster compared to the 9950X3D being 1xCCD with lower latency overall (no latency between CCDs compared to 9950X3D). But this advantage is more likely to happen with artificial bottleneck with 4090/5090 @ 1080P. At 2160P/4K the 9800X3D is almost identical in performance compared to 9950X3D.
If your budget is tight and want to play on 2160P I would suggest to go with a 7800X3D instead ONLY if the difference in money is worth it (at least $150-200 less). Regards
If your budget is tight and want to play on 2160P I would suggest to go with a 7800X3D instead ONLY if the difference in money is worth it (at least $150-200 less). Regards
Not really, with 6000 being the sweetspot on these for gaming latency is your biggest issue and the motherboards dont differ that much in that aspect from what I know. Your money would be best spent getting a serious EXPO kit if you need to upgrade something 🤣
My 6000CL26 kit didnt boost my FPS necessarily but it sure helped smooth out the lows in game.
Or delid it and get a direct-die block
To add to previous reply, a full copper block with start to alloy with LM and it takes several initial applications plus polishing as maintenance. The direct die pro block is nickel. I have one on my 9950x3d and its amazing. Idle temps are 34c and I can run a static 5.2-5.4 on multi-core r23 at about 89c 1.215v. The worst part is getting it started because the stock backplate wanted to fall off before you get the screws started. And check the thread depth on the back when you are mounting to make sure you have even pressure.
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