Can you make any average computer a server? If so how? How would a server running off a computer work? I would like some in depth please, I am real interested in this. If I have a P4 build can I make it a server? Whats the benefits of a server? Can you use a server like a normal desktop?
How do you define if your computers a server or computer?
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They don't make consumer level desktop boards with dual/quad sockets because consumers don't need them. They make workstation & server boards for that purpose, because servers & workstations may need multiple cpus.
MS doesn't make 'Home' OS's that work with quad sockets (dual sockets is OK for most of their OS's), because they aren't needed either. If you need quad sockets, you are not really a 'home' user - and need to buy the hardware that goes with it.
Similarly Intel/AMD don't make multi-socket capable chips for home use - because home users don't need them. See the pattern emerging? You get what you pay for - you need multi sockets, you have to buy the hardware/software that will support it. If all the features are available on all the hardware, the price of everything has to go up as there is nothing to differentiate the top hardware from the lower grade stuff.
MS doesn't make 'Home' OS's that work with quad sockets (dual sockets is OK for most of their OS's), because they aren't needed either. If you need quad sockets, you are not really a 'home' user - and need to buy the hardware that goes with it.
Similarly Intel/AMD don't make multi-socket capable chips for home use - because home users don't need them. See the pattern emerging? You get what you pay for - you need multi sockets, you have to buy the hardware/software that will support it. If all the features are available on all the hardware, the price of everything has to go up as there is nothing to differentiate the top hardware from the lower grade stuff.
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OK... point taken, and I agree with you for the most part.
Where I differ though is that now that dual and quad core chips are mainstream - and multi-threaded applications are becoming more common place - the notion of multi-sockets to support that infrastructure shouldn't be only limited so "Servers" now is all I was saying..
The consumer level chips are just as good if not better now, I'm just saying bring the boards in line with that..
good post though..
Where I differ though is that now that dual and quad core chips are mainstream - and multi-threaded applications are becoming more common place - the notion of multi-sockets to support that infrastructure shouldn't be only limited so "Servers" now is all I was saying..
The consumer level chips are just as good if not better now, I'm just saying bring the boards in line with that..
good post though..
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If it's a server it's being a server if it's a PC it's a PC, if it's both it's both... imo
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I agree - multi-threaded apps are becoming commonplace. But there is still no real need for a typical 'home' user to run more than 8 threads (ie 1 i7 chip). And if you do need it, buy a workstation board. These are more expensive because there is less need for them, so the economies of scale are lower.
This is not the hardware companies being harsh - they are just providing products people need at the prices they will pay.
Originally Posted by Gill..  OK... point taken, and I agree with you for the most part. Where I differ though is that now that dual and quad core chips are mainstream - and multi-threaded applications are becoming more common place - the notion of multi-sockets to support that infrastructure shouldn't be only limited so "Servers" now is all I was saying.. The consumer level chips are just as good if not better now, I'm just saying bring the boards in line with that.. good post though.. |
This is not the hardware companies being harsh - they are just providing products people need at the prices they will pay.
I call my pc a sever:
runs as a torrent slave, configured over http
acts as a file server, using nfs to other computers in the house.
Is on 24/7
no keyboard or mouse pluged in to it , all done using ssh.
it is pluged in to my tv, running openbox/moovida to play videos (controled with a wiimote), and sky tv through
im guesing the last point makes it more of a mediapc then a server
runs as a torrent slave, configured over http
acts as a file server, using nfs to other computers in the house.
Is on 24/7
no keyboard or mouse pluged in to it , all done using ssh.
it is pluged in to my tv, running openbox/moovida to play videos (controled with a wiimote), and sky tv through
im guesing the last point makes it more of a mediapc then a server
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A HTPC can also be a Torrent server and file server. The definition of "server" is not mutually exclusive.
Originally Posted by markp1989 I call my pc a sever: runs as a torrent slave, configured over http acts as a file server, using nfs to other computers in the house. Is on 24/7 no keyboard or mouse pluged in to it , all done using ssh. it is pluged in to my tv, running openbox/moovida to play videos (controled with a wiimote), and sky tv through im guesing the last point makes it more of a mediapc then a server |
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