A screen running 30hz means it can only display 30FPS, while a screen running at 60hz can display 60fps.

 

you have 1080p and 1080i backwords, 1080p is 60hz, 1080i is 30
1080p is newer, better

my 26" lcd tv is 720p, 1360x768 native
in games i force 1920x1080 60hz

 

Ah, thank you. So does it have anything to do with what my screen will display? Will a screen whose native resolution is 1360 x 768 @ 60hz display a 1920 x 1080 @ 30hz? Wouldn't that make it a 1080i-type resolution?

 

Ummm...

How can an LCD's native resolution not be its max?

These aren't CRTs.

If has 1360 x 768 pixels, you can't make it show any more.

 

I guess what I'm getting at is that 1360 x 768 seems awfully close to 720. I want more than 720, which is why I bought my TV. Now it seems that I can't use it.

So that's my issue. I just don't understand how a 1080i TV doesn't have 1080 lines of resolution.

 

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Originally Posted by TEntel Ummm... How can an LCD's native resolution not be its max? These aren't CRTs. If has 1360 x 768 pixels, you can't make it show any more.

But doesn't 1080i imply that it has 1080 lines on it. And doesn't that mean that it should support a 1920 x 1080 resolution?

I don't know the answer to that by the way...

 

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Originally Posted by Sprokethead But doesn't 1080i imply that it has 1080 lines on it. And doesn't that mean that it should support a 1920 x 1080 resolution? I don't know the answer to that by the way...

1360 x 768 is the standard resolution for 720p LCDs.

If the TV is telling you it can support 1080i, it simply means that it will downscale a 1080i signal into a 720p one.

 

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Originally Posted by Sprokethead Ah, thank you. So does it have anything to do with what my screen will display? Will a screen whose native resolution is 1360 x 768 @ 60hz display a 1920 x 1080 @ 30hz? Wouldn't that make it a 1080i-type resolution?

for desktop you want to run the native, games are fine at above, native is the clearest, if i set 1080p on desktop somethings will get distorted

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Originally Posted by TEntel Ummm... How can an LCD's native resolution not be its max? These aren't CRTs. If has 1360 x 768 pixels, you can't make it show any more.

lcd tv's, not lcd's
you CAN force any lcd to run higher, but it might not work

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Originally Posted by Sprokethead I guess what I'm getting at is that 1360 x 768 seems awfully close to 720. I want more than 720, which is why I bought my TV. Now it seems that I can't use it. So that's my issue. I just don't understand how a 1080i TV doesn't have 1080 lines of resolution.

computer lcd's are alot better for computers than tv's, they are made to get that resolution while being able to read text, tv's wernt really ment for text

 

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Originally Posted by TEntel 1360 x 768 is the standard resolution for 720p LCDs. If the TV is telling you it can support 1080i, it simply means that it will downscale a 1080i signal into a 720p one.

Thank you much for clarifying the 720p resolution.

Of course, that's what I was afraid of. My TV isn't telling me anything, it's just doing it! Why is my tv downscaling the resolution? Seems like it should support a higher resolution, specifically 1920 x 1080 @30hz.

 

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Originally Posted by Sprokethead Thank you much for clarifying the 720p resolution. Of course, that's what I was afraid of. My TV isn't telling me anything, it's just doing it! Why is my tv downscaling the resolution? Seems like it should support a higher resolution, specifically 1920 x 1080 @30hz.

What type of connection are you using? Component dongle?

 

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Originally Posted by Skullzaflare lcd tv's, not lcd's you CAN force any lcd to run higher, but it might not work

So an LCD TV is a different type of LCD that has a dynamic number of pixels?

 

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Originally Posted by hairston630 What type of connection are you using? Component dongle?

I'm using VGA because HDMI looks like crap. The reason it looks like crap is that my HTDV has no option for 1:1 pixel mapping. In other words, there is no way to turn off "overscanning," which is necessary for... who knows.

 

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Originally Posted by Sprokethead I'm using VGA because HDMI looks like crap. The reason it looks like crap is that my HTDV has no option for 1:1 pixel mapping. In other words, there is no way to turn off "overscanning," which is necessary for... who knows.

The resolution problem is in your vga connection. If you cant get HDMI to work then the VGA resolution is going to be the best your pc and tv can produce together. I have a 1080p monitor and I hooked up the 360 to it through VGA and it was limited to a very low res, though I know I support 1920x1200. I am sorry that your in this position but I dont think there is much you can do with your current setup. Is this a new tv you say?

 

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Originally Posted by hairston630 The resolution problem is in your vga connection. If you cant get HDMI to work then the VGA resolution is going to be the best your pc and tv can produce together. I have a 1080p monitor and I hooked up the 360 to it through VGA and it was limited to a very low res, though I know I support 1920x1200. I am sorry that your in this position but I dont think there is much you can do with your current setup. Is this a new tv you say?

No, I just couldn't afford 1080p at the time. It was $600 at Office Depot so I just went for it. That was like 1.5 years ago before I knew anything except what "i" and "p" meant. I wish I could go back and get one with 1:1 pixel mapping- then I could use HDMI.

However, I've never tried to force 1920 x 1080 @ 30hz using Powerstrip. Maybe that would help? Or maybe that would cause a 1:1 pixel mapping? There has to be some number that makes a 1:1 ratio. Instead of finding it by changing the tv setting, maybe I can find it by changing the computer setting?

That just occurred to me.

 

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Originally Posted by Sprokethead No, I just couldn't afford 1080p at the time. It was $600 at Office Depot so I just went for it. That was like 1.5 years ago before I knew anything except what "i" and "p" meant. I wish I could go back and get one with 1:1 pixel mapping- then I could use HDMI. However, I've never tried to force 1920 x 1080 @ 30hz using Powerstrip. Maybe that would help? Or maybe that would cause a 1:1 pixel mapping? There has to be some number that makes a 1:1 ratio. Instead of finding it by changing the tv setting, maybe I can find it by changing the computer setting? That just occurred to me.

Is this an lcd or a crt monitor? You want to be careful as forcing higher resolutions and refresh rates can damage your monitor. Try forcing those settings at your own risk.

 

lcd

 

My tv just flashes and says "Out of Range." Dangit.

 

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Originally Posted by Sprokethead My tv just flashes and says "Out of Range." Dangit.

Yes, thats normal to display that. I wouldnt try it more than once, just to be on the safe side. Are you trying to play games on this tv? Or dvd's?

 

Stupid computers.

So now I've got to get a whole new f*cking tv to utilize the htpc I just built?

Stupid computers.

 

Anyway, thanks for the help.

 

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Originally Posted by hairston630 Yes, thats normal to display that. I wouldnt try it more than once, just to be on the safe side. Are you trying to play games on this tv? Or dvd's?

Both of those. I suppose the vga connection will be ok for a while.

 

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Originally Posted by Sprokethead Stupid computers. So now I've got to get a whole new f*cking tv to utilize the htpc I just built? Stupid computers.

I believe so, unfortunately. If its Hi Def you want to run I would suggest a 1080p with 120mhz auto-motion. VERY clear and smooth on the eyes. Things look almost 3d. Best buy has plenty of them on display.

 

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Originally Posted by Sprokethead Stupid computers. So now I've got to get a whole new f*cking tv to utilize the htpc I just built? Stupid computers.

It's not the computers fault you got a POS TV without doing lots of research.

 

i dont know if its you or not, but when i threw a 3870 in my other computer, and hooked it to my lcd same as i did my 8800's, i couldnt get the catalis(sp) to allow 1920x1080, it just siad out of range, yet my 8800 even gives the 1920x1080 option and runs it

im running dvi-hdmi