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Had to give my newest 5800X3D sample a slight VDDG bump.

Passed my usual suite of tests without issue, but I started noticing intermittent crashes while playing some older isometric cRPGs (DX9 and 11 stuff that gets several hundred fps, as I don't cap anything). I thought it was my GPU OC at first, but no, it turned out it was VDDG. +10mV here, back to the 910/960 CCD/IOD I was using on my original sample, seem to have addressed everything.

I'll have to work more PCI-E sensitive loads into my normal testing.

Edit: Turns out it was primarily the GPU after all (specifically, the GPU's SoC voltage). I'm back at 900/950 vDDG.
 
Hi all

Got my x3d about a week ago, upgrade from ryzen 3600. Used the same settings as I had before, gigabyte b550i mb and crucial 3000cl15 e-die memory running at 3600cl16, had this setup for a good year, all was running well. Its a small itx build, so I set the x3d to -30 and 65w power profile limits with pbo tuner.

After a few days, started getting some random crashes and with some more exploring, it seems as the memory controller just isnt as good as before, or my settings just dont work well with the current cpu. Putting the memory down to 3200mhz clears all the errors, and on 3400 it still gets the occasional whea err reported, no crashing but bound to happen...

So I wanna explore where the problem might be.

First I wanted to check the infinity fabric. I set it off-sync and put the memory on 1600/3200 and IF first on 1800mhz with vsoc at 1V and later 1900mhz, with vsoc 1.075V. No whea errors in sight, doing random stuff and stress testing.

Is this a valid way to test IF? Or does it have to be in-sync to really stress it?
 
i bought but it didnt come yet, is 3200mhz cl14 enough for 5800x3d ? or if i should overclock my ram ?
my rig is currently:
gigabyte g5 x370
ryzen 1700
gtx 970 strix ( searching for second hand deals to get 6900xt)
corsair rmx750
Crucial Ballistix 8x2 16 gb

i guess i didnt even turn on xmp lol
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its fine. most of us here like to tweek things as high as they can go, but ymmv on whether or not it actually helps anything but a benchmark. There's been a few comparisons that show how little memory makes a difference for this cpu, assuming 3200+, specifically for gaming.
 
Hi all

Got my x3d about a week ago, upgrade from ryzen 3600. Used the same settings as I had before, gigabyte b550i mb and crucial 3000cl15 e-die memory running at 3600cl16, had this setup for a good year, all was running well. Its a small itx build, so I set the x3d to -30 and 65w power profile limits with pbo tuner.

After a few days, started getting some random crashes and with some more exploring, it seems as the memory controller just isnt as good as before, or my settings just dont work well with the current cpu. Putting the memory down to 3200mhz clears all the errors, and on 3400 it still gets the occasional whea err reported, no crashing but bound to happen...

So I wanna explore where the problem might be.

First I wanted to check the infinity fabric. I set it off-sync and put the memory on 1600/3200 and IF first on 1800mhz with vsoc at 1V and later 1900mhz, with vsoc 1.075V. No whea errors in sight, doing random stuff and stress testing.

Is this a valid way to test IF? Or does it have to be in-sync to really stress it?
In my experience with non 3d chips, if the IF worked out of sync, it worked for me in sync no problems.

My 5800x3d is even worse than yours though lol, I can't even do 1600 fclk without whea errors. I've maxed out SOC voltage/chipset voltage/vddg/vddp/enabled ln2 mode and messed with the 1.8v. But I had the same experience as you with the whea errors showing up but never a single crash....I just don't like running knowing the machine is throwing errors. I'm stuck at 3000 mem/1500 fclk for now.

I almost have a feeling that many of these issues with the low fclk are bios related. I remember when I first got my Gigabyte X570 Aorus Pro wifi and 3900x. It could barely do 1600 fclk without a ton of voltage tweaks and after like 4 new bioses it could run 1900 fclk on auto voltages that seemed pretty low. I just wish gigabyte would provide a newer bios, the last one they released for my board is 4+ months old.
 
Hello guys, im a beginner of this " overclock / optimization world or w/e everyone call " recently i've buyed a 5800X3D + B550M TUF PLUS + 16x2 3600CL 14-15-15-28 b-die ram memory, u guys can send me if possible any guides to how overclock ram memorys and how improve the 5800x3d performance in gaming ( i see some people talking about use PBO2 Tuner for get better temps for this one since 5800x3d is super hot ) tbh i just want extract the maximum i can from this two components ( for get better performance in games ), if someone can show me the way to follow for get this, ill be really appreciated. Good night from Brazil, thanks!!
 
I tried out various settings with the PBO2 Tuner, all using the same BIOS set PPT 124/TDC 82/EDC 124 limits.
R23 multi-core sits at 4,450Mhz rock solid throughout entire test, temps never exceed 65-67C during the run.
Been using every day for months across many different games/windows programs without a single issue.
Ran CoreCycler (absolute profile) for 24 hours without issue
Ran TM5 with confidence over 10K (ran for about 10 hours from memory)

PBO2 Tuner - All core -30
VDDG CCD -0.95
VDDG IOD - 0.90
SoC (SVI2 TFN) -1018mV

CPPC - Enabled
CPPC Pref - Disabled

Board is Aorus X570 Master running Agesa 1.2.0.7 BIOS version F36f
G.Skill 2x 16GB DDR4 @ 3600Mhz
Win 11 22H2 - Latest Build

Seems like an 'ok' score for being cooled with EKWB Elite 360mm AIO inside LianLi PC-011D case.
Probably just gonna leave it this way for the rest of it's life (at least with me), even though I still don't see those single core boosts near 5Ghz that some seem to get, but that's likely not doing any workloads of much substance - not missing much in everyday use I doubt anyway, and this thing runs nice and cool, which means quiet. Surprisingly so, when I have an RTX 4090 in there, which is it's own little oven!!
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Hey all, new to these forums, a mod from Techpowerup! where I've been for years suggested posting here with my humble request.

I have a Gigabyte X570 I Aorus Pro WiFi, and I'd love to source or request a bios be modded to allow PBO2 undervolting directly in bios for my 5800X3D. I've had fantastic results using the windows based approach, but naturally would prefer a BIOS level addition of those settings to be OS agnostic.

Mod name dropped @Reous as someone very helpful.

Any help appreciated :)
Would anyone be able to assist with this? I believe that @Verangry was also namedropped as someone who's made some custom BIOS's before, cheers for your consideration.
 
In my experience with non 3d chips, if the IF worked out of sync, it worked for me in sync no problems.
Thanks. Yea I also feel its mature bios related, yesterday had all day at 1900 if, worked with no errors, them moved to 1700 on both memory and if and there we go again :(. Will play around some more, but probably just keep it at 3200 for now and let things mature, if they ever will, not sure how much will amd and mb makers invest in x3d going forward.
 
Hi all

Got my x3d about a week ago, upgrade from ryzen 3600. Used the same settings as I had before, gigabyte b550i mb and crucial 3000cl15 e-die memory running at 3600cl16, had this setup for a good year, all was running well. Its a small itx build, so I set the x3d to -30 and 65w power profile limits with pbo tuner.

After a few days, started getting some random crashes and with some more exploring, it seems as the memory controller just isnt as good as before, or my settings just dont work well with the current cpu. Putting the memory down to 3200mhz clears all the errors, and on 3400 it still gets the occasional whea err reported, no crashing but bound to happen...

So I wanna explore where the problem might be.

First I wanted to check the infinity fabric. I set it off-sync and put the memory on 1600/3200 and IF first on 1800mhz with vsoc at 1V and later 1900mhz, with vsoc 1.075V. No whea errors in sight, doing random stuff and stress testing.

Is this a valid way to test IF? Or does it have to be in-sync to really stress it?
What error code in event viewer when crash occured? What timings did you use? I have that kit and if tuned I must raise RCDRD, RC and RFC in certain steps.

For 3100 I can run RCDRD 16, but I must raise it by 1 at 3200, 3400 etc.

Currently running
3700 15 19 19 34 on my i5 12400F 1.44v
RFC 544
Rest supertight.ĂĄ
 
Anyone tried the new chipset drivers AMD just released? I can't find a detailed changelog, just "bug fixes".
If you scroll down in the notes you can see what's fixed, for example:]

- PSP Driver:
Fixed BSOD 7E while installing the PSP driver
New program support added

- SFH Driver:
Added support for custom ACS sensor
Report invalid data when sensor is blocked

- S0i3 Filter Driver:
Fix for BSOD during S4 when AMD USB4 CM is involved

- MicroPEP Driver:
Updated .inf file to remove redundant information
Fixed BSOD 0x1CA and 0xA0 seen on Windows® 11 22H2

So yes, it worth to update :)
 
Found an old picture, with ryzen 3600 so 16 16/19 16 36 at 1.4v, thats how I had it for 2y. Err is that standard "cpu bus interconnect smthing"

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Event ID 19 for your bus/interconnect error, right? You can check in the windows Event Viewer.

It's quite unfortunate these 3d chips seem a bit touchy/underperforming when it comes to the infinity fabric clocks. You would think they would have better IF clocks since they should be using a very mature SOC chip....my 3900x could do 1900 IF no problem as could my 5800x non 3d.
 
Yea think its that id19, not close to the pc at the moment to check.
Was a bit surprised, tbh I expected I would be stepping up to 3800mhz. And desynced IF works just fine at 1900mhz, but when synced with memory 1700mhz already unstable. Think I will just give it time, if they fix something with new bios revisions and just run it at 3200 for now, my tinkering itch can wait a little.
 
Event ID 19 for your bus/interconnect error, right? You can check in the windows Event Viewer.

It's quite unfortunate these 3d chips seem a bit touchy/underperforming when it comes to the infinity fabric clocks. You would think they would have better IF clocks since they should be using a very mature SOC chip....my 3900x could do 1900 IF no problem as could my 5800x non 3d.
Its all down to the lottery as with anything else. Mine does 1933mhz at only 1.1v SOC but 1966 wont work even at 1.2v
 
My 5800X3D is on the way, got it for 350 bucks. Could anyone give me a quick breakdown and maybe link the tools I'll need to tweak this thing? Undervolting seems to be the way to go with it yeah?
Mainboard is the MSI Gaming Pro Carbon Wifi x570
Ram is G.Skill TridentZ Neo Series 4x8GB, 3800MHz CL 14(F4-3800C14Q-32GTZN)
 
Anyone playing MWII/Warzone 2? what did you all set your RendererWorkerCount:
At?
Default is 7 for me. I see no point changing it as different values doesn't fix the periodic micro-stutter. Every other game including MW19 runs just fine, so I stopped trying to fix it. Some on Reddit were suspecting anticheat shenanigans or bad servers (servers are run by a hamster, haven't been able to run custom games for the past few days, about 50% of the time it errors out with Error 292 or 11642).
 
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