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#1 · (Edited)
I might as well start this thread now. Initially it will be sort of a placeholder as final specs are yet to be revealed.

What we know is; for starters there will be two ASUS Crosshair boards, the X670E HERO and the X670E EXTREME, here is a recent stream from Asus North America presenting both


The X670E EXTREME already has its own page at ASUS, but with not that much information so far:

ROG CROSSHAIR X670E EXTREME | ROG Crosshair | Gaming Motherboards|ROG - Republic of Gamers|ROG Global (asus.com)

Regarding the Zen 4 platform: we know it is built on TSMC 5nm for the chiplets and TSMC 6nm for the IO-die, the X670 chipset is probably built on 28nm by Asmedia but there is no official information on that. The X670E platform will use two of these Asmedia chipsets for extensive IO options. The cheaper B650 platform will use only one chipset.

Leaks so far has suggested that the initial launch will feature four CPU: s and take place on September 15 this fall

Ryzen 9 7950X 16-core/32-threads 170W TDP max 230W
Ryzen 9 7900X 12-core/24-threads 170W TDP max 230W
Ryzen 7 7700X 8-core/16-threads 105W TDP max 142W
Ryzen 5 7600X 6-core/12-threads 105W TDP max 142W

As seen, power is much higher than Zen 3, even though it's a more energy efficient manufacturing process. What that tells us is, clocks will be much higher than Zen 3 and indeed the leaks are stating a 4.5GHz base clock and a 5.7GHz boost clock for the 7950X. Some leaks are even saying boost will be 5.8GHz, it's possible AMD still hasn't decided the exact specs. Anyway, this is a rather big jump from Zen 3.

Motherboard makers will counter this in a similar way as they did with Intel Alder Lake, the new motherboards will have extreme power delivery. 20+2 x110A for the X670E EXTREME.

Other enhancements for the Zen 4 platform include higher IPC at the same frequency, ~10%, double the amount of on processor L2 cache up from 512kB to 1MB per core and a more efficient multithreading engine rendering a higher improvement for multithreading than for single thread. Most of the performance increase is expected to come from the much higher clocks though. Yet another leak stated L3 will be very fast, ~1500GB/s.
Oh, and I almost forgot, Raphael as Zen 4 has as its codename will feature AVX512 support which is absent on both Alder Lake and Raptor Lake. AVX512 renders a 20-60% performance increase in applications that supports it. The PS3 emulator is one well known program, but more exciting is Unreal Engine 5 has AVX512 support which means upcoming games may support it.

New features are
PCIE 5.0 for the graphics slot
PCIE 5.0 for NVME M.2 drives
DDR5 memory, no DDR4 option
AMD has said up to DDR5-5600 is officially supported, but DDR5-6400 is expected to work using new DDR OC-profiles which will come with AM5.

The new AM5 socket is expected to live for 5 years according to AMD, meaning at least Zen 5 and Zen 6 will still use the same socket. A "future proof" platform from the looks of it.
And there is Thunderbolt support from ASUS using an Intel chip. An Intel chip will also provide the latest Wi-Fi 6E. Marvell contributes with 10Gb networking.

Eventually there will be X3D variants of the Zen 4 processors, still unclear when and which models but a leak the other day suggested AMD has solved most of the OC problems when using 3D cache. These upcoming processors will be very exciting, I say this because my own 5800X3D with 4.55GHz max boost easily beats my 12900KF with 5.3GHz max boost in most games and that is considering Alder Lake even has slightly better IPC than Zen 3.

Anyway, this was just a quick starter, I will fill in with more information and thoughts as I gather it, everyone is free to do the same and let's hope this will be an exciting thread going forward :)
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ROG CROSSHAIR X670E EXTREME
More specs to follow!
  • Intelligent Control: ASUS-exclusive tools including AI Cooling II, AI Networking, and Two-Way AI Noise-Cancelation for easy configuration.
  • Robust Power Solution: 20+2 teamed power stages rated for 110 A, MicroFine alloy chokes, premium metallic capacitors, and ProCool II power connectors.
  • Optimized Thermal Design: Large VRM heatsinks plus integrated aluminum I/O cover, ROG GEN-Z.2, high-conductivity thermal pad, five M.2 heatsinks, and dual M.2 with embedded backplates, and ROG Water-Cooling Zone.
  • High-Performance Networking: Onboard Wi-Fi 6E, Marvell® AQtion 10Gb, Intel® 2.5Gb Ethernet, and ASUS LANGuard.
  • Ultra-fast Connectivity: PCIe® 5.0, Gen 5 M.2 slots, USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 front-panel connector, USB4® ports.
  • Industry Leading Immersive Audio: ROG SupremeFX ALC4082 codec with ESS® ES9218PQ DAC for ultra-low distortion.
  • Unmatched Personalization: AniMe Matrix™ LED display, 2” LiveDash OLED, ASUS-exclusive Aura Sync RGB lighting, including one RGB header and three addressable Gen 2 RGB headers.
  • DIY Friendly Design: Pre-mounted I/O shield, PCIe slot Q-release, ROG True Voltician, BIOS FlashBack™, Q-Code, FlexKey, Q-Connector, M.2 Q-Latch, SafeSlot, and ROG graphics card holder
  • Renowned Software: Bundled 1-year AIDA64 Extreme subscription and intuitive UEFI BIOS dashboard.

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#2 ·
Who will be the first ? 😀
 
#3 ·
Yes, I wonder, looks like preorder isn't available yet. Probably because no one knows the prices. I heard Youtubers will get their review kits next week, I guess leaks will come at a steadily faster rate :)
 
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#6 ·
Create a thread 😉
 
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The amount of USB ports is insane.
Yes yes, the board is good too.
 
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As a sidenote, maybe the prospects for building an all-AMD rig are better than ever before

Goodbye Nvidia… - YouTube

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If this is true, ADA is DOA and RTX30 will be old E-waste
 
#15 ·
Cant wait to get the X670E Hero to replace Z690 Hero.
 
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WCCFTECH was busy this morning, with a X670 motherboard roundup

AMD X670E & X670 Motherboards Roundup Ft. ASUS, ASRock, MSI, Gigabyte, Biostar - Wccftech

They list Asus's launch boards:
ASUS ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme
ASUS ROG Crosshair X670E HERO
ASUS ROG STRIX X670-E WIFI Gaming
ASUS PRIME X670E-PRO WiFi
ASUS TUF Gaming X670-PLUS WiFi
ASUS ProArt X670-Creator WiFi

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and a new summary of Ryzen 7000

AMD Ryzen 7000 '5nm Zen 4' AM5 Desktop CPUs Specs, Performance, Price, & Availability - Everything We Know So Far - Wccftech

Interesting bit
"The other thing is that, unlike AMD's Navi 24 GPUs, the Ryzen 7000 iGPU based on the same RDNA 2 core architecture (but on a 6nm Rembrandt revision) will come with a VCN engine that supports both AV1 Video Encode and Decode. "

And expected prices:
CPU NAMEARCHITECTUREPROCESS NODECORES / THREADSCORE CLOCK (SC MAX)CACHETDPPRICE
AMD Ryzen 9 7950XZen 45nm16/32~5.5 GHz80 MB (64+16)105-170W~$700 US
AMD Ryzen 9 7900XZen 45nm12/24~5.4 GHz76 MB (64+12)105-170W~$600 US
AMD Ryzen 7 7800XZen 45nm8/16~5.3 GHz40 MB (32+8)65-125W~$400 US
AMD Ryzen 7 7700XZen 45nm8/16~5.3 GHz40 MB (32+8)65-125W~$300 US
AMD Ryzen 5 7600XZen 45nm6/12~5.2 GHz38 MB (32+6)65-125W~$200 US

And launch schedule
  • Product announcement: August 29, 2022 at 8:00PM ET / August 30, 2022 at 2:00AM CET / 8:00AM TW
  • Press embargo: September 13, 2022 at 9AM ET / 3PM CET / 9PM TW
  • Sales embargo: September 15, 2022 at 9AM ET / 3PM CET / 9PM TW
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Interesting bit
"The other thing is that, unlike AMD's Navi 24 GPUs, the Ryzen 7000 iGPU based on the same RDNA 2 core architecture (but on a 6nm Rembrandt revision) will come with a VCN engine that supports both AV1 Video Encode and Decode. "
That's indeed quite interesting. VCN being... well, behind and typically a halfarsed effort has hampered AMDs adoption in some circles, and having AV1 encode on the CPUs - well, they may just be beating Intel to the punch!
 
#22 ·
SAS same like hibermation in windows noone will use it :D
 
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#23 ·
LoL EVGA is now selling the 3090Ti for 1149$ on their own webshop, a 1000$ rebate. Next gen is coming ...
 
#27 ·
Anyway, let's leave graphics except the new IGP aside. Today's reveal by AMD was obviously that DDR5-6000 is "the optimal" memory for Zen 4 because that's when all the buses are in sync. Interesting.
 
#28 ·
Going for 7900 or 7950X and Extreme board. Last time with AMD was with X2 3800+…been a while.
 
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I had X2 4600+ back in the day as my "last AMD", after that it was Intel for many years. Right now, I do have C8 Extreme with 5800X3D, but I will upgrade just for the fun of it

If I remember right, I joined this forum when I had Core2 Quad and ASUS P5Q-DeLuxe, was fun times and a lot of OC and custom bios:es :)
 
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#31 · (Edited)
Added some new procuct images from Videocardz for EXTREME and HERO in the OP
 
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If anyone is brave to try with their current AM4 rig, a new AMD chipset driver has leaked over at ASUS ROG-forum:


"AMD Software Release Notes ver. 4.07.13.2243
Package Contents and Compatible Operating Systems
This Software package contains various independent drivers (Column 1) designed to support the following Microsoft® Windows® platforms (Column 2). Operating System support may vary depending on your specific AMD product

Driver NameOS SupportedSupported Version
AMD Processor Power Management Support - AMD Ryzen Power PlanWindows 10(64-bit)8.0.0.13
Windows 11(64-bit)8.0.0.13
AMD PCI Device DriverWindows 10(64-bit)1.0.0.89
Windows 11(64-bit)1.0.0.89
AMD I2C DriverWindows 10(64-bit)1.2.0.119
Windows 11(64-bit)1.2.0.119
AMD UART DriverWindows 10(64-bit)1.2.0.114
Windows 11(64-bit)1.2.0.114
AMD GPIO2 DriverWindows 10(64-bit)2.2.0.130
Windows 11(64-bit)2.2.0.130
PT GPIO DriverWindows 10(64-bit)3.0.0.0
Windows 11(64-bit)3.0.0.0
AMD PSP DriverWindows 10(64-bit)5.19.0.0
Windows 11(64-bit)5.19.0.0
AMD IOV DriverWindows 10(64-bit)1.2.0.52
Windows 11(64-bit)1.2.0.52
AMD SMBUS DriverWindows 10(64-bit)5.12.0.38
Windows 11(64-bit)5.12.0.38
AMD SFH DriverWindows 10(64-bit)1.0.0.329
Windows 11(64-bit)1.0.0.329
AMD MicroPEP DriverWindows 10(64-bit)1.0.35.0
Windows 11(64-bit)1.0.35.0
AMD PMF DriverWindows 10(64-bit)22.0.1.4
Windows 11(64-bit)22.0.1.4
AMD PPM Provisioning File DriverWindows 10(64-bit)8.0.0.13
Windows 11(64-bit)8.0.0.13
AMD USB4 CM DriverWindows 10(64-bit)1.0.0.20
"
 
#33 ·
If anyone is brave to try with their current AM4 rig, a new AMD chipset driver has leaked over at ASUS ROG-forum:


"AMD Software Release Notes ver. 4.07.13.2243
Package Contents and Compatible Operating Systems
This Software package contains various independent drivers (Column 1) designed to support the following Microsoft® Windows® platforms (Column 2). Operating System support may vary depending on your specific AMD product

Driver NameOS SupportedSupported Version
AMD Processor Power Management Support - AMD Ryzen Power PlanWindows 10(64-bit)8.0.0.13
Windows 11(64-bit)8.0.0.13
AMD PCI Device DriverWindows 10(64-bit)1.0.0.89
Windows 11(64-bit)1.0.0.89
AMD I2C DriverWindows 10(64-bit)1.2.0.119
Windows 11(64-bit)1.2.0.119
AMD UART DriverWindows 10(64-bit)1.2.0.114
Windows 11(64-bit)1.2.0.114
AMD GPIO2 DriverWindows 10(64-bit)2.2.0.130
Windows 11(64-bit)2.2.0.130
PT GPIO DriverWindows 10(64-bit)3.0.0.0
Windows 11(64-bit)3.0.0.0
AMD PSP DriverWindows 10(64-bit)5.19.0.0
Windows 11(64-bit)5.19.0.0
AMD IOV DriverWindows 10(64-bit)1.2.0.52
Windows 11(64-bit)1.2.0.52
AMD SMBUS DriverWindows 10(64-bit)5.12.0.38
Windows 11(64-bit)5.12.0.38
AMD SFH DriverWindows 10(64-bit)1.0.0.329
Windows 11(64-bit)1.0.0.329
AMD MicroPEP DriverWindows 10(64-bit)1.0.35.0
Windows 11(64-bit)1.0.35.0
AMD PMF DriverWindows 10(64-bit)22.0.1.4
Windows 11(64-bit)22.0.1.4
AMD PPM Provisioning File DriverWindows 10(64-bit)8.0.0.13
Windows 11(64-bit)8.0.0.13
AMD USB4 CM DriverWindows 10(64-bit)1.0.0.20
"
I installed them.
I don't know how to test "AMD chipset" drivers...
I just ran CBR23 Multi and single and didn't see any changes in scores.

As only Power Managment has changed, I have changed my Core0 CO (Best core) from -13 to -15 to check if this driver set helps in getting better stability with better performances.
 
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Today's leaks talk about a 7800X, and it will be a 10-core CPU. Loads of salt as always, but if true it gives AMD more options for product placement and maybe the possibility for 7700X to be cheaper.

AMD already has a 10-core, the 5900e(embedded), so it will not be a first even if regular consumers have never heard of the 5900e.
 
#39 ·
Funny they use quite a few same style model names as for Skylake-X.
 
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If you been around for a while, names tend to be recycled, flashback every time :)
 
#41 ·
Has there been a single X670(E) motherboard announced with 4 PCIe slots? I currently use all four in my C8 Dark Hero for mission critical hardware.
 
#42 · (Edited)
Not from ASUS so far


But MSI X670 Pro do have four slots


A little more details on this sole 4x pcie board from Techpowerup

MSI Publishes its X670 Motherboard Product Pages | TechPowerUp

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"Finally the Pro X670-P WiFi gets a 14+2+1 power design and this time around MSI has dropped the heatpipe, although the company has still applied a rather large heatsink. MSI dropped most of the niceties on the Pro, as gone is the pre-attached I/O shield and not all M.2 slots come with heatsinks. Somewhat surprisingly, MSI includes a 20 Gbps USB-C port here and the display outputs are identical to the Carbon. This is the only board from MSI to offer up a PCIe 3.0 x1 expansion slot and as this is an X670 board, the three x16 slots are all PCIe 4.0, although the configuration is x16, x4 and x2, with none of the lanes being shared. The board has a single PCIe 5.0 M.2 NVMe slot and three PCIe 4.0 M.2 NVMe slots.

All three boards rely on eight-layer PCBs with two ounce copper layers. MSI has also included screwless M.2 drives installation on all boards, with the higher-end models also have screwless heatsinks on some of the M.2 slots. All three models also have a Realtek ALC408x USB audio codec, with the ACE gaining an ESS ES9280AQ DAC as well. Overall it looks like MSI is going to have a small, but pretty solid range of X670 and X670E motherboards."


Looks like a OK entry level board and may probably work well for those in special need of four slots.
Personally I only needs one, for the graphics card, so all ASUS boards are good enough for me.
 
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#44 ·
ASUS has published the launch event for the X670 series motherboards on 23 - 24 August :)

HAVE ITALL
X670E MOTHERBOARDS & GAMING GEAR LAUNCH EVENT
23 - 24 AUGUST


ROG PRESS
EVENT

  • Taipei
    23 Aug. 10 PM (GMT+8)
  • Cologne
    23 Aug. 04 PM (GMT+2)
  • New York
    23 Aug. 10 AM (GMT-4)
ROG GAMESCOM
FAN EVENT

  • Taipei
    25 Aug. 1:30 AM (GMT+8)
  • Cologne
    24 Aug. 7:30 PM (GMT+2)
  • New York
    24 Aug. 1:30 PM (GMT-4)
"ROG QUIZ COMPETITION
It’s time to Have It All!
Tune in to the ROG press event on August 23 and get ready to learn more about the very latest ROG X670E motherboards and other gaming gear.

Participate in the ROG quizzes on Kahoot during the ROG Gamescom Fan Event on August 24 to show off your hardware knowledge. Score points by answering questions correctly and fastest.

There will be several quizzes during the livestream—each offering a new chance to win an ROG gaming product, such as our latest motherboards, monitors and gaming notebooks.

Make sure to follow the livestream to the end, so you won’t miss any chances to win prizes. Each session is limited to 2,000 participants and all participation is on a first come, first served basis."


ROG PRESS EVENT
23 August 2022
  • Starts at 4 PM (CEST).
  • Be the first to see our latest ROG products.
  • Special guest: der8auer, world’s no. 1 professional overclocker.
ROG GAMESCOM FAN EVENT
24 August 2022
  • Starts at 7:30 PM (CEST).
  • Watch your favorite creators compete in gaming challenges.
  • Win high-end ROG prizes.
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#45 ·
AMD Moves Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" CPU Launch To 27th September, Same Day As Intel's 13th Gen Raptor Lake Unveil (wccftech.com)

"Earlier this month, we reported that AMD was going to host an event in late August where they will announce all the details such as specs and prices for their next-gen Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" CPUs and the respective AM5 platform. The company had also planned to open up sales just two weeks later on the 15th of September. But it looks like AMD has decided to halt the sales a bit and position the real launch next to Intel's 13th Gen Raptor Lake CPUs on the 27th of September. "

So, looks like AMD wants to steal some limelight from Intel, fair enough :)

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#46 ·
AMD to Host Livestream Event to Unveil Next Generation Ryzen Processors

"SANTA CLARA, Calif.
08/16/2022
Today, AMD (NASDAQ: AMD) announced “together we advance_PCs”, a livestream premiere to unveil next generation AMD PC products. Chair and CEO Dr. Lisa Su, CTO Mark Papermaster, and other AMD executives will present details on the latest "Zen 4" architecture that powers upcoming AMD Ryzen™ processors and the all new AM5 platform built around the latest technologies including DDR5 and PCIe5, all designed to drive a new era of performance desktop PCs.

The show will premiere at 7 p.m. ET on Monday, August 29, on the AMD YouTube channel. A replay can be accessed a few hours after the conclusion of the event at AMD.com/Ryzen."


AMD to Host Livestream Event to Unveil Next Generation Ryzen Processors | AMD


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I dont know why all new borards look like **** .Where is red and black.
 
#50 ·
I dont know why all new borards look like **** .Where is red and black.
Don't know either, but I don't care that much as I tuck it under my desk :) Performance is king.
 
#51 ·
@xeizo Oh preformace aaa that is the reason why i have UNIFY-X ;)
 
#52 · (Edited)
Nice board, I have the Z690 Tomahawk DDR4 from MSI, works well and is fast(and all Black). But my 5800X3D on C8 Extreme is faster in most games, even if it's inferior in workstation use, and that is with slower RAM than the Z690/12900K. And almost 1GHz lower CPU clocks.