Will be interesting to see if the new trace layout can reliably do 8200+ with conventional UDIMMs on a quad-slot board. Otherwise seems to have good connectivity, a good layout, and an eCLK gen, but I am really tired of all these $500 boards without dual ROM chips.

Can someone please tell ASUS to keep their sheet of stickers and spend the fifty cents they save at the printers on a second ROM chip and a physical switch instead?

 

Will be interesting to see if the new trace layout can reliably do 8200+ with conventional UDIMMs on a quad-slot board.

this is the main interest for me.
If the answer is not «yes», those boards will be useless.

 

thats one beautiful board

 

the heatsinks lack surface area, for aesthetics reason i am not sure i support this

 

I like it. It still can do dual PCIE x8.
However, it may cost more than a 9950x.

 

But you will be limited to 2 NVME, one off the cpu, one off the chipset. Becareful where you place your SSD.

 

It will be launched on 30/09.

 

ROG Bottle Opener - wanna see a pic of this

The statement "* Non-ECC, un-buffered DDR5 memory supports On-Die ECC function*" is a bit confusing because it seems to contradict itself.
does it works over 6000 1:1 ?

 

The statement "* Non-ECC, un-buffered DDR5 memory supports On-Die ECC function*" is a bit confusing because it seems to contradict itself.

Not ASUS' fault, but JEDECs.

All DDR5 has on-die ECC, but you can also get better ECC the conventional way by adding extra ICs to a module and using them to hold parity info.

does it works over 6000 1:1 ?

Most AM5 boards do at this point and with any dual-slot, or high-end quad slot, board the limiting factor for 1:1 will usually be the CPU.

 

thats one beautiful board 2

 

AMD really needs to work on IO for AM6. Skipping ASUS, but definitely picking up an X870E board. Probably that MSI one.

 

I also wanted X870 just for the future proof incase AMD pulls another "you cannot have Ryzen 5000 on X370" move. But the prices man.

ROG STRIX X870-A GAMING WIFI - €455.40 
ROG STRIX X870-F GAMING WIFI - €489.90 
PRIME X870-P WIFI - €328.44 
ROG CROSSHAIR X870E HERO - €704.52 
ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI - €547.20 
PRIME X870-P - €314.16 
X870 A ELITE WF7 ICE - €353.85

I hope MSI wil have good affordable boards, been rather happy with their PRO series in the past.

 

I also wanted X870 just for the future proof incase AMD pulls another "you cannot have Ryzen 5000 on X370" move.

Unlike past platforms, the chipset didn't change in the slightest (there is no physical or electrical difference between a Promontory 21 A2 chip from a B650 board and either of the ones used in an X870E board) and it's entirely possible (though somewhat tedious on protected ROMs) to flash modified firmware with updated microcode/AGESA that will support new processors, even after official support ends.

Also, quite a few X370 boards officially support the latest AM4 processors anyway.

But the prices man.

Also a distinct lack of 1DPC boards.

 

Another 4 x DIMM board. Yaawn. This is supposed to be an enthusiast product?

 

If somebody would just make an ATX board with sane PCIe layout and 2 DIMM slots.

 

Not too worried about the 4 slots memory. but would really like a board with a x4 or x1 PCIE slot for soundcard. X6 or 870e EATX board.

 

Shouldn't this be a general ROG Crosshair X870E thread like we have for X670E? A Gene and Extreme are both expected.

 

Do X670E gene and extreme come with usb4 already? Not sure about x670e hero.

 

Analyse de l'ASUS ROG Crosshair X870E Hero

Asus nous a fait parvenir sa nouvelle carte mère AM5 utilisant le nouveau chipset haut de gamme d'AMD, à savoir l'X870E. Quel écrin a donc concocté le célèbre fabricant Taïwanais pour ce dernier ?

hardwareand.co

 

But not 10/Gb lan . I guess the MSI x870 Godlike will be in my build.

 

Considering ASUS whole X870e new boards announced until current date, the only one I'm willing to buy is the x870e Hero unless a Gene comes out.

 

The next gen cpu, after Ryzen 9000, USB4 will be intergrated into IO die, just as Ryzen 8000 APU.
Some 600 boards support USB4 with 8000 APU without 3rd party USB4 controller.
One example, search "USB4" on the page below:

B650E AORUS ELITE X AX ICE (rev. 1.0/1.1) Specification | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global

Lasting Quality from GIGABYTE.GIGABYTE Ultra Durable™ motherboards bring together a unique blend of features and technologies that offer users the absolute ultimate platform for...

www.gigabyte.com

x870e/x870 is just a temporary bandit with USB4, for non Ryzen 8000 cpus. In the future, the USB4 will be support through CPU directly. The 3rd party USB4 controller will be redundant and taking 4 pcie lines that you can not use. Thus, we should avoid 800 boards that are with 3rd party USB controller. For me, a mere refresh is fine. A 3rd party USB4 is worse.

 

I think the X670E boards with USB4 all have some kind of limitation (like ASUS sharing first M2 5.0 X4 slot with USB4, or Asrock using the lanes directly). It seems X870E most of the AIBs are directly taking 4 lanes from the CPU for USB 4 instead of sharing them like on the X670E. Man, I'm not sure, X870E doesn't seem an upgrade at all. Even checking the AM5 spreadsheets, some X870E are downgrades (IMO) vs X670E, specially in the PCI-E department

 

very nice board!

 

Maybe we have to wait but youre right.
All what I read already about lanes sharing was not good.

 

How is this an improvement?
Nitropath Ram tech didn’t do anything!!
Source: glitched.online

 

How is this an improvement?
Nitropath Ram tech didn’t do anything!!
Source: glitched.online
...

Up to 400MT/s! Up to!
We have to wait for much more reviews.
@domdtxdissar
Thank you!

Sometimes I'm not so sure to change from B650E or X670E to X870(E).
AMD made a big mistake with forced USB4.
We are lost 4x lanes.
My quest to you...can we disable this USB4 chip in BIOS to get 4 lanes back again?

BTW ask you with direct die frame and the solution with your watercooling.
There are now xx millimeter less cause the heatspreader are gone.

Greets

 

ASUS new Nitropath is definitely doing some work!

For the first time 8000MT/s memoryspeeds and above are viable on 2DPC (4 memory slots) motherboard for daily usage, with full boot to boot stability (which is something that have plagued previous gens)
I have had some time to play around with the X870E Hero in my small air-cooled livingroom media computer (overkill i know 😅), and i have achieved full stablity running 8000MT/s together with 2x16GB Hynix A-die. And best of all, this is using all stock/auto memory training settings, no fiddling with taps and RTT+proc settings required

Should also note that this computer is also using the IGPU on the IO-die for display, which is something that makes it even harder on the memory-timings/IMC, ontop of this being a 4dimmer motherboard.

Hardware used:

• 9950X @ fully stock boosting
• X870E Hero
• Noctua Air cooler
• 2200mhz FCLK
• Teamgroup UD-5 7800MT/s XMP a-die memory with my custom barts heatsinks @ 8000MT/s CL34-45-42-48
• This computer have no casefans installed

Results with A-die: (most Zen5 cpus capps out at 8000MT/s speeds while a few can do 8100/8200 for daily in optimal cooling/settings)

Full screenshot with 13 hours karhu + 3 hours testmem 1usmus + hwinfo open

Have also done some testing with Hynix M-die, but profile is not finalized yet
(lax timings)

All in all this motherboard is working flawlessly for me atm, have had zero hiccups, and best of all like i said above, full boot-to-boot stability with all auto memorytraining settings

There are also some new settings in the bios i can share with you guys in the coming days.. CO safe curve anyone ? Basically two different CO curves at the same time, one for light work and autoswitch to a other one for heavy work

 

ASUS new Nitropath is definitely doing some work!

For the first time 8000MT/s memoryspeeds and above are viable on 2DPC (4 memory slots) motherboard for daily usage, with full boot to boot stability (which is something that have plagued previous gens)
I have had some time to play around with the X870E Hero in my small air-cooled livingroom media computer (overkill i know 😅), and i have achieved full stablity running 8000MT/s together with 2x16GB Hynix A-die. And best of all, this is using all stock/auto memory training settings, no fiddling with taps and RTT+proc settings required

Should also note that this computer is also using the IGPU on the IO-die for display, which is something that makes it even harder on the memory-timings/IMC, ontop of this being a 4dimmer motherboard.

Hardware used:

• 9950X @ fully stock boosting
• X870E Hero
• Noctua Air cooler
• 2200mhz FCLK
• Teamgroup UD-5 7800MT/s XMP a-die memory with my custom barts heatsinks @ 8000MT/s CL34-45-42-48
• This computer have no casefans installed

Results with A-die: (most Zen5 cpus capps out at 8000MT/s speeds while a few can do 8100/8200 for daily in optimal cooling/settings)

View attachment 2675131

Full screenshot with 13 hours karhu + 3 hours testmem 1usmus + hwinfo open
View attachment 2675132

Have also done some testing with Hynix M-die, but profile is not finalized yet
(lax timings)
View attachment 2675133

All in all this motherboard is working flawlessly for me atm, have had zero hiccups, and best of all like i said above, full boot-to-boot stability with all auto memorytraining settings

There are also some new settings in the bios i can share with you guys in the coming days.. CO safe curve anyone ? Basically two different CO curves at the same time, one for light work and autoswich to a other one for heavy work

Wow.. can it do the same with 7800x3d?

 

Safedisk have also put some work into the X870E hero 💪

ASUS Achieves 7.55 GHz OC World Record On AMD Ryzen 9 9950X CPU With ROG Crosshair X870E HERO Motherboard

AMD's Ryzen 9 9950X CPU has been overclocked to a record-breaking 7.55 GHz by ASUS using the ROG Crosshair X870E HERO motherboard.

wccftech.com

 

Can you confirm, if a 1xPCIE soundcard is put in slot 2 will it knock slot one to 8X? I need one 1x PCIE slot.

 

When will cudimm nda ends? Hero support cudimm boot?

 

ROG CROSSHAIR/STRIX/TUF/PROART X870 Series Bios 0505

"1.Updated with AMD AGESA PI 1.2.0.2.
2.Fixed the issue where BitLocker automatically turns on.
3.Fixed the failure of EZ-flash rollback BIOS under certain conditions.
4.Improved system performance and fixed various bugs.
5.Updated EC firmware from 0119 to 0120.

dont use older cmo file

Re: X670 resource

ROG CROSSHAIR/STRIX/TUF/PROART X870 Series Bios 0505 "1.Updated with AMD AGESA PI 1.2.0.2. 2.Fixed the issue where BitLocker automatically turns on. 3.Fixed the failure of EZ-flash rollback BIOS under certain conditions. 4.Improved system performance and fixed various bugs. 5.Updated EC firmware...

rog-forum.asus.com

 

@safedisk are you able to confirm if the x870-i has an external clock gen to support asynchronous clock, ECLK/BCLK OC? The documentation is conflicting at this point across Asus product pages.

also - any 1.2.0.2. official bios for b650e-i?

 

If any of guys are interested in PCI-E lanes, the X670E Hero offers more.

This is from the manual of the X870E Hero

If you use PCI-E slots and M2_2-M2_3 all share lanes.

So if you use any of those two M2 slots, the main X16 slot will run at X8

If you use M2_2 and M2_3, PCI-E_2 will be disabled lol, and PCI-E_1 will also run at X8.

For RTX 5000 and future gpus prob it doesn't matter much with PCI-E 5.0 running at X8, but for example on a RTX 4090, X8 4.0 already suffers in latest games vs X16.

 

Use pciex16 + m.2_1 and m.2_4 in that case and leave m.2_2 and m.2_3