[maddangerous]

Hey all,

My cousin has some cash for a new CPU for his AM3+ system, and is debating between the two CPUs in the title, the FX-8370 and FX9590.

Both of them are currently 179.99 @ Microcenter.

Generally, he uses his rig for primarily gaming, video encoding, and general use, and virtualization for fun/learning. Multitasking does occur as well.

As far as gaming goes, for newer games, he plays:

Spoiler: Games

Lots of Star Trek Online

Elite Dangerous
The Witcher series
Dragon Age series
Ciivilization 5
Dead Island
Sins of a solar Empire: Rebellion
Mass Effect Trilogy
Bioshock series
Crysis series
Galactic Civilization II & III

His current setup, all stock clocked:

Antec 1200 V3
AMD FX-6300
Thermaltake Frio Advanced 2x130mm (stock thermaltake fans)
ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0
ASUS R9 380 STRIX
8 gigs of G.SKill Ripjaws 1600MHz
Crucial M4 120 gig (windows)
WD Black 4 TB (storage)
Antec Earthwatts 850
5x120mm Antec fans
1x200mm antec fan

Hard drive/SSD sits in an IcyDock (fan is what came in IcyDock).

No plans in overclocking.

I have to say something here though, the choice is between the FX-8370, FX-8370E, and the FX-9590. He isn't interested in switching to Intel, so please, if that is all you have to say then just leave it alone. He has a full rig already, really likes the system already, and it does exactly what he needs it to do. He just wants a little bit more in the CPU side of things.

 

[cssorkinman]

8370

 

[miklkit]

No overclocking? The 9590 and just leave it at stock.

With overclocking the 8370 is the way to go. It is much friendlier.

Either way he should consider a different cooler. From what I have heard the Frio cools ok but is very loud. Any good twin tower will cool at least as well with very little noise.

 

[p4inkill3r]

8370.

 

[maddangerous]

Quote:

Originally Posted by cssorkinman

8370

Quote:

Originally Posted by p4inkill3r

8370.

Care to elaborate at all please?

Quote:

Originally Posted by miklkit

No overclocking? The 9590 and just leave it at stock.

With overclocking the 8370 is the way to go. It is much friendlier.

Either way he should consider a different cooler. From what I have heard the Frio cools ok but is very loud. Any good twin tower will cool at least as well with very little noise.

It seems to do well for him, I don't know much about it myself. I was rather surprised when I found out that it uses 130mm fans.

 

[p4inkill3r]

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Originally Posted by maddangerous

Care to elaborate at all please?

http://hwbot.org/submission/2615355_ @The Stilt

In all actuality, the price difference between the 8370/e and the 8320e, especially at Microcenter, isn't justified. You'd be well served getting any of the 8 core SKUs except the 9590.

 

[The Stilt]

FX-8370E got my vote. All my best chips are either FX-8370E or FX-8370. I have some FX-8320+, 8350, 9370 and 9590s too but they don´t come even close to the newer stuff. The FX-9370 and the 9590s run so hot that I don´t feel comfortable running them even at stock with some heavy undervolting.

My "V.S / Special Reserve" FX-8370/Es all do 4.7 - 4.8GHz with 1.35V - 1.39V depending on leakage, in temperatures < 63°C. Most of them have abnormally low SIDD too (hyper low leakage)

You can get the FX-9590 too as long as you remember to undervolt it (together with LLC adjustment), and remember that it is not guaranteed to do anything higher than 4.7GHz.

Regardless what you do, we need to have a word about you "cooler"...

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

 

[miklkit]

I must have gotten an odd 9590 because when locked at 4.7 it uses the lowest vcore of my 8350, 8370, and the 9590. It also runs the coolest. But, it won't run above that at all anymore either.

 

[CravinR1]

I always get the cheapest fx 8 I can find (8300, 8310, 8320) and overclock to 4.4-4.8 and call it a day

 

[cssorkinman]

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Originally Posted by CravinR1

I always get the cheapest fx 8 I can find (8300, 8310, 8320) and overclock to 4.4-4.8 and call it a day

That would be my recommendation too, but he said he isn't going to overclock and I really can't see a 9xxx functioning on his cooling.

 

[CravinR1]

There really is no reason not to buy a cheap fx 8 and hyper 212+ evo and OC 4.4-4.6 ghz

 

[Undervolter]

Quote:

Originally Posted by CravinR1

There really is no reason not to buy a cheap fx 8 and hyper 212+ evo and OC 4.4-4.6 ghz

Some people like burning money...

 

[BinaryDemon]

The smart move would be to get the FX-8320E for $110 and overclock it to FX-8370 speeds.

If he is really unwilling to overclock, then get the FX-8370 since, like other pointed out, his CPU cooling doesnt stand a chance against keeping a FX-9590 cool.

 

[CravinR1]

Where is the 8320e $110 ?

 

[p4inkill3r]

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Originally Posted by CravinR1

Where is the 8320e $110 ?

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.aspx?sku=439513

 

[Papadope]

At minimum he will need a dual tower cooler or AIO to handle the FX-9590 at stock speeds. I also don't think the vrm's on that motherboard will cut it. It's a good board buts its not as robust as the Sabertooth or Crosshair. Definitely go with one of the FX-8***

 

[p4inkill3r]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papadope

At minimum he will need a dual tower cooler or AIO to handle the FX-9590 at stock speeds. I also don't think the vrm's on that motherboard will cut it. It's a good board buts its not as robust as the Sabertooth or Crosshair. Definitely go with one of the FX-8***

The 9590/9370's very existence is cause for many people's poor experience with AMD products. I've had to talk people out of buying them at Microcenter myself because they were going to put one of them in a cut rate motherboard.

 

[Papadope]

I was just thinking he would probably get a much better experience by leaving the FX-6300 in the system and just upgrading to a freesync monitor.

 

[jclafi]

To me the better choice is the FX-8320E, cheap and great fun to overclock.

However if overclock is not in the agenda, the FX-8370, to me, is the way to go. Very easy to handle the heat at stock settings, great Default/Turbo clock.

The FX-9590 to me its a 'no go'. That CPU is a difficult one to handle heat and power requirements. It requires a good/excelent tunned motherboard.

In the end, FX-8320E (Overclocked use) or FX-8370 (Stock use).

Until saturday i was running my FX-8350 at 4.9Ghz. I decided to run at stock(4.2 Turbo Core) just to see the performance.

And is hell fast at stock settings too.

No Heat, no Fan noise, just a happy AMD FX owner.

To the record, after 3 years of 70°c stints and 1.5v, no degradation, everything now on stock voltage. FX chips are hard to kill !

Perhaps i will undervolt it a little, just for fun !

Good Luck !

 

[st0necold]

Go for the 9590!