disregarding the potential human error in what you're talking about (i.e. ppl see you before you see them as that is widely down to skill), your system is definitely ****ed up in some way. if i had to guess something is ****ed up with voltages somewhere

 

disregarding the potential human error in what you're talking about (i.e. ppl see you before you see them as that is widely down to skill), your system is definitely ****ed up in some way. if i had to guess something is ****ed up with voltages somewhere

i have no idea what happend. but it really is. All this started happening from last year. i was playing cod mw a lot almost everyday. One day my game crashed like all the cod game graphic went black and i could see the enemy running but i couldnt see the actual map or walls. Then at the same time i started having audio issues and shuttering. My pc was lagging in destop too. Thats when i did some research and used latencymon to fix the drivers that caused them. But i was never able to fix it fully. I still can't play like i used to. Everything in game feels laggy. Not due to my internet thats for sure cause my ping and packet loss plus speed are all fine. So here im asking for help like i did a year ago. something is really fked up. idk wht it is or how to try to fix it.

 

It points to nvidia graphics driver.

Even when it usually have higher latencies (up to 0,400 ms), while system kernel can go up to (0,250ms) this is definitely unusually high.

If there is any overclocking on the system, set it to default. If it wont help, try newer graphic driver.

 

i tried ddu and trying new drivers and old drivers it was pretty much the same. Few days ago i check with system kernel latency and saw that is way higher that it should be. I also didnt do any overclock. I tried doing flash bios and updating and it was still the same. Also how do i reset my current bios to default? i couldnt find the option. my mobo is b450 tomhawk max.

 

Do a full uninstall and reinstall of your graphics driver, and make sure you have Low Latency Mode enabled in the nvidia settings.

 

yep did all that a year ago with ddu and stuff then gave up. But now i cant play like this anymore. i bought a new monitor thinking it was it but nope its my system being laggy.

 

DDU (search for it on Techpowerup website) then download and install latest graphics driver for your GPU, you may opt to debloat NVDIA drivers as well (its also in Techpowerup site) and remove all the telemetry crap embedded on the driver..it can/will reduce your latency issues related to graphics driver..

Lastly if you don't mind tinkering with the Interrupt/IRQ affinity of your graphics (should permanently set specific CPU's that will handle requests from your GPU instead of randomly assigning it, and you can also set at which priority the interrupt request is handled) it will also greatly reduce your latency from the GPU side..

 

i used ddu and tried few different drivers and they had similar results. Most of the people said gpu 1ms delay wouldnt matter ingame. but now i see that my system kernel latency is a lot higher than it should be. I dont even know whts the normal latency it should be.

 

DXGKML.sys is in fact for the graphics card driver. Which has a huge ISR count. Even in game it shouldn't be that high.
NVLDDMKM.sys is the nv driver associated with it. And this has a huge DPC count.

It appears that nvlddmkm.sys is causing abnormal amount of interruptions (ISR= interrup service routines) with the dxgkml.sys through the higher then normal Deferred Procedure Calls.

• Can you disable any audio associated with your nvidia card?
• Do you have anything connected to your graphics card other then a single monitor?
• Do you have anything connected to your PC that may interact with your graphics card like a capture card, etc?
• Are you using a gpu overclocking app often?
• And, are you using a tweak that makes the graphics card or a gpu bound game have a higher priority through some sort of bat file or registry edit?

The only other suggestion if the above examples are not the case is to check to make sure you don't have one of thoes crypto viruses. Which use your gpu to run 24/7. Could you check your gpu temps to see if they are higher then normal at desktop?

 

DXGKML.sys is in fact for the graphics card driver. Which has a huge ISR count. Even in game it shouldn't be that high.
NVLDDMKM.sys is the nv driver associated with it. And this has a huge DPC count.

It appears that nvlddmkm.sys is causing abnormal amount of interruptions (ISR= interrup service routines) with the dxgkml.sys through the higher then normal Deferred Procedure Calls.

• Can you disable any audio associated with your nvidia card?
• Do you have anything connected to your graphics card other then a single monitor?
• Do you have anything connected to your PC that may interact with your graphics card like a capture card, etc?
• Are you using a gpu overclocking app often?
• And, are you using a tweak that makes the graphics card or a gpu bound game have a higher priority through some sort of bat file or registry edit?

The only other suggestion if the above examples are not the case is to check to make sure you don't have one of thoes crypto viruses. Which use your gpu to run 24/7. Could you check your gpu temps to see if they are higher then normal at desktop?

i only have my monitor audio for nvidia card throught hdmi but its already disabled. Its connected to one monitor. I dont have anything else connected to the gpu. Didn't overlclock anything. Also didn't use any edit to registry. i also did fresh install of windows few times and its still been the same. gpu is at 0 percent when idle and 40 C temp.

 

PERFORM A FULL UNINSTALL AND CLEAN INSTALL OF YOUR GRAPHICS DRIVERS

thanks

 

i did fresh install of windows few times and used ddu to clean install different gpu drivers and they have been the same results.

 

Is your gpu vertically mounted?

 

no its not mounted.

 

sophia369

right click on msi_util_v3.exe and run as administrator.

 

here it is

 

Here is the result. i think it helped a little with the driver latency.

 

@sophia369

Are you moving your mouse cursor repeatedly in circles while you run latenymon?

Your ISR has reduce quite a bit. But there is something funky going on with your mouse. Run latencymon again for a 3 minutes but this time don't touch your mouse. Make sure all apps are closed at desktop. At the 3 minute mark use your mouse and stop the latencymon. Again, don't move your mouse when you start latencymon.

 

you are right. there is something wrong with my mouse.i just played a unrated game in valorant and i must say i can already see the difference. It is a loot smother and clear than before thats for sure. But my mouse aim feels sloppy. I think my pc has some issues with logitech mouses. i only face this sloppyness with logitech mouse but when i use normal mouse it doesnt feel the same and my flick plus bullets were hitting accurate. when i flick with pistol theres always a delay and inaccuracy with logitech. i will run it for 3 mins and get back to you.

 

do you have the driver tab as well?

 

sorry i didnt have it anymore. i just redo the test here are the results.

 

is your mouse wired, or wireless?
Edit: Also is your mouse plugged in near your wireless card?

I'm not trying to distract from @EastCoast and @kairi_zeroblade, but there are weird issues where USB 3 can interfere with WiFi and USB Storage (which is how I found out about this... my computer doesn't like a flash drive and my wireless mouse receiver on the same USB chipset. I have to plug flash drives/hard drives into the back of my PC, and my mouse into the front.). So if your mouse and wireless card are plugged into the same hub/controller/set of ports, you might be getting interference.

 

both logitech mouses are wired. i removed the wireless card as i also have lan cable. i only bought the wireless card thinking my lan port might be faulty and the reason i was lagging in game.

 

Msi utility app you downloaded does the same thing. No need to manually enter a registry just check mark the box for it. Reboot.

But let's be clear here your ISR COUNT is fine now. But it is advisable to uninstall any RGB apps as suggested.

But there's something else still going on. I think you're pulling rate is way too high. It appears to be set at 1000 hz? If so, you may need to reinstall the Logitech software and reduce it to 250hz. Then unistall it again, reboot. To this day I do not understand why Windows doesn't allow you to change this without third-party software? But I digress.

The last step to this is to uninstall your graphics drivers. Then go into safe mode and use the app ddu. Reboot back into windows. Now with your polling rate set at 250hz and no NVIDIA drivers run latencymon. You don't need to unplug your mouse this time just don't move it while it's running for about 2 to 3 minutes.

 

im planning to buy a razer mouse in a month or so. I also used a normal asus mouse when doing the later tests. i dont have any rgb software installed. i will try the mouse with 250hz and ddu the driver and show u the results.

 

Uninstall again. Use ddu in safe mode. Ddu has an option to prevent windows from installing drivers. Check it. Then use ddu to unistall the drivers. I don't recall the exact name of the option feature in ddu.

 

here is the results without nvidia drivers. my monitor is currently running at 1.00hz. no driver installed other than the monitor hz. dont know if that related to anything.

 

It looks like either win10 or Hardware issue at this point. But I see razor software now???

 

razer is my headphone software. it could be my hardware issue like the gpu. i think im gonna contact nvidia and see what they says

 

There is something very particular that us causing this issue. And it is consistently causing 12ns of latency. As if its in a timer. Could it be the headphone and razor software? Unknown.

However, you isr count is greatly reduced from around 90 to less then 10.

Latencymon does state there is no issue. So, if we take what they said to be true. This 12ms of lag isn't occurring all the time.

So far we've:

• Removed Nvidia drivers
• Prevent win10 from installing older drivers
• Lowered the polling rate to 250hz
• Removed some software
• Unused the mouse and used a different mouse
• Removed all unnecessary usb devices such as wifi mouse pad and mouse.
• Unclear if your headphones are usb or 3.5mm jack.
• Hdaudio is now using msi mode
• No irq conflicts found

The only other thing is to make sure you are using the usb ports in the back of the PC. Which are attached to the motherboard. And use the highest power plan in win10.

 

my razer headphones are 3.5mm jack and yes i use the back ports of the mobo. i just changed my power plan to amd high performance.

 

@sophia369
It's a long shot but I suggest that your disable all Exploit Protection from window's defender. Just type it in the search bar take a screen shot of every feture's default settings. Then disable every feature in there. Reboot the PC. See if that helps lower latency. If not, restore it.

 

@sophia369
It's a long shot but I suggest that your disable all Exploit Protection from window's defender. Just type it in the search bar take a screen shot of every feture's default settings. Then disable every feature in there. Reboot the PC. See if that helps lower latency. If not, restore it.

do you mean this settings or the other program setting. all the system settings are set to use default on

 

Yes that's it.

 

Ever try a fresh install?

 

yes few times and it been sa

yes few times and its been same results

 

What reply gives command "bcdedit -enum"?

 

is this the secret not so-secret anymore secret BCDEDIT tweaks..

 

I play fps competitive games a lot and i always feel this laggyness with my system.
(...)So is this issues because of the high kernel timer latency or is it something else? I really need help.(...)some help!!

Make sure the motherboard BIOS is updated and install the latest AMD chipset driver.
Check this

KVR Forum: DPC latency better with AMD graphic cards (3 card comparison) - Page 3 - Computer Setup and System Configuration Forum

KVR Audio Forum - DPC latency better with AMD graphic cards (3 card comparison) - Page 3 - Computer Setup and System Configuration Forum

www.kvraudio.com

 

my bios and amd chipset drivers has been updated already. this is the new latencymon report after using ddu to remove nvidia driver. It seem now its another driver thats getting high latency. No nvidia driver were installed during this test.

 

Unfortunately I suffer the same latency issues as you, though more occasionally. However this is in Window 11, so don't expect upgrading to Win 11 to help.

I have spent a long time tuning resources to help mitigate it and using different drivers etc. However while I have an AMD system which is suffering latency issues with Win 11 specifically at the moment, I reckon this is a Windows problem over all. These issues are well documented with Windows 10 but seemingly nothing has been done to fix it and I think its how Windows interacts with 3rd part drivers as opposed to the issue being wholly a 3rd party driver issue.

 

Actually this helped to me alleviate some unspecified stutter:

sfc /scannow

But when i checked what it fixed, i could not tell why it will be the issue.

 

I have this same issue, same latency time, same drivers... I've tried everything!

 

From my understanding and research on the issue if you have a nvidia gpu it's specific to how nvidia uses their drivers as a software server. Nothing can be done to alleviate it. Their video cards uses a software scheduler that is coded in the drivers. Has anyone ever tried using latencymon with geforce drivers uninstalled. Reboot in safe mode and use DDU? From what I've seen people who do saw a dramatic difference.

But I will admit I haven't been keeping up with this for a while now as it's a very old issue.