or in the amazon basin or in the himalayas

 

So do convicted criminals in jail get access to the interwebz then since its now a basic human need?

 

dial up isn't even put up everywhere in the world, I don't know how they're going to put broadband everywhere, unless satellite internet is going to be massively launched.

 

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Originally Posted by ForumViewer

So do convicted criminals in jail get access to the interwebz then since its now a basic human need?

Serious? Convicted criminals have their rights taken away most of the time depending on the country.. They are not saying broadband is an inalienable right.

 

The easiest would be 3G, cell phones are used by the majority of people to access the net as it is, because of how many have them.

I hope Telkom gets this memo because their rental prices for DSL lines are ridiculous.

 

I think I know their secret motive. They want to install ultra extensive WIFI technology with enormous dishes in every province, county, municipality, State, and Country. By using existing cell and broadband towers with uplink capability to satellites for communication and covert tracking for security and spying. The UN wants total control in 3rd world countries and areas to squash and create social religions through media and adaptive monetary manipulation. The ultimate goal is to monitor all communication in real time to subvert common sense and welfare. No need to run cables. Since cell and satellite phones have an access to the communication grid, an organization such as the UN could feed disinformation to every under educated individual in 3rd world countries therefore changing political climates and start internal civil wars. If it was to their benefit, they could use the technology to stop civil unrest if it meet their needs. Just because everyone has an access to information does not mean that access is wise nor truth. By changing the makeup of beliefs, you could instantly control the politic, religion, social, monetary, and education system in a country. The New World Order as it is termed is only brought about by massive information overload and control,

I may be crazy. I may be wrong. I may be spouting imagined BS. But, you never know.

 

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With little fanfare two weeks ago, a key United Nations commission made a remarkable statement: it declared, unambiguously, that broadband access is a basic human right, right up there with the right to healthcare, shelter and food. Not merely dial-up Internet connection (the U.N. has decreed that before), but the kind of fast, seamless service Americans find at any Starbucks. Think about what that implies: Freedom of expression now mandates the ability to broadcast that expression to the entire world.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/randalllane/2011/11/15/the-united-nations-says-broadband-is-basic-human-right/
http://youtu.be/FfBT3uSr11c
I wanna see them run lines out to rural areas of africa..

Lots of people live in lots of places where they don't have access to basic human rights.
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Originally Posted by ForumViewer

So do convicted criminals in jail get access to the interwebz then since its now a basic human need?

No, since people in jail have been convicted of crimes, and hence forfeit some of their rights as a citizen.
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Originally Posted by Hiep

Serious? Convicted criminals have their rights taken away most of the time depending on the country.. They are not saying broadband is an inalienable right.

Or a necessity.

Considering something a basic human right is not the same thing as calling it a basic human necessity. All this means is that if someone/something who is living as a legal person, they cannot be prevented from having broadband. It does not say that some government needs to provide it to every citizen.

 

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Originally Posted by guyladouche

No, since people in jail have been convicted of crimes, and hence forfeit some of their rights as a citizen.
Considering something a basic human right is not the same thing as calling it a basic human necessity. All this means is that if someone/something who is living as a legal person, they cannot be prevented from having broadband. It does not say that some government needs to provide it to every citizen.

Has nothing to do with citizenship or legality.

 

what a joke. people keep making up rights. if it is a right then it must be provided and it if it must be provided then it must be taken from another.

i say you have a right to your life and your liberty

 

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Originally Posted by critical46

if it is a right then it must be provided and it if it must be provided then it must be taken from another.

You're right, we're taking away your internet so everyone can enjoy some.

 

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Originally Posted by zalittle

I think I know their secret motive. They want to install ultra extensive WIFI technology with enormous dishes in every province, county, municipality, State, and Country. By using existing cell and broadband towers with uplink capability to satellites for communication and covert tracking for security and spying. The UN wants total control in 3rd world countries and areas to squash and create social religions through media and adaptive monetary manipulation. The ultimate goal is to monitor all communication in real time to subvert common sense and welfare. No need to run cables. Since cell and satellite phones have an access to the communication grid, an organization such as the UN could feed disinformation to every under educated individual in 3rd world countries therefore changing political climates and start internal civil wars. If it was to their benefit, they could use the technology to stop civil unrest if it meet their needs. Just because everyone has an access to information does not mean that access is wise nor truth. By changing the makeup of beliefs, you could instantly control the politic, religion, social, monetary, and education system in a country. The New World Order as it is termed is only brought about by massive information overload and control,
I may be crazy. I may be wrong. I may be spouting imagined BS. But, you never know.

Actually sounds somewhat accurate. To a lesser extent of course.

 

They're probably just trying to make up for the EU declaring that water doesn't stop dehydration.

 

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i say you have a right to your life and your liberty

this.. seriously people don't have a right to healthcare or the internet. The companies and businesses that give you these are providing you a service. If someone provides you a serivice then its usually not free (example i took my car into the shop and had to paid because it was a service, it wasn't free.)

 

i guess they will have to figure out how to get internet to a 3rd world country now high speed internet!!

 

Heh cool, that means I live in a country where in most places a human right is not met..

Maybe the UN will send relief to our broadbandless land.

 

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Originally Posted by critical46

what a joke. people keep making up rights. if it is a right then it must be provided and it if it must be provided then it must be taken from another.
i say you have a right to your life and your liberty

I'm not sure you understand what a right is. A right means that you can't be legally stopped from exercising it. It doses not mean that to government, or anyone else, has to provide it. For instance, we have a right to free speech. That doesn't mean that people who have lost their voice get automatic free medical treatment to restore it, it just means that no one can legally stop them from exercising that right.

Calling broadband a right would mean it's not ok to shut down internet to a city to disrupt protests, as it would violate your right to broadband. It doesn't mean that anyone is going to be given free broadband.
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Originally Posted by SafeKlok

Heh cool, that means I live in a country where in most places a human right is not met..
Maybe the UN will send relief to our broadbandless land.

Rights and needs are not the same thing. Do you live in a country that has outlawed broadband? No? Then you're fine. An example of something that is not considered a right (in the US at least) is driving. It's considered a privilege, not a right, and they can take your drivers license away for non criminal things.
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Originally Posted by WaRTaco

this.. seriously people don't have a right to healthcare or the internet. The companies and businesses that give you these are providing you a service. If someone provides you a serivice then its usually not free (example i took my car into the shop and had to paid because it was a service, it wasn't free.)

Saying people don't have a right to healthcare means you think it should be ok to deny people ace's to healthcare arbitrarily. As in, if a state wanted to, it could declare all healthcare illegal unless it issued you a special license. Have cancer but don't have a healthcare license? Too bad. Rights have nothing to do with payment, or free service. It has nothing to do with providing free healthcare. That come from considering healthcare a neccecity, which is not the same as a right.

 

Its only a matter of time before we start seeing Ethiopian kids playing MW3.

 

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Originally Posted by Varjo

Rights and needs are not the same thing. Do you live in a country that has outlawed broadband? No? Then you're fine.

Haha, I'll bet you posted that using a broadband connection.

 

"the right to life, liberty, property, and internet broadband"

 

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Its only a matter of time before we start seeing Ethiopian kids playing MW3.

That's actually a nice thought, the dream so to speak.

It also happens to be the dream of Activision.

Anything that lines the pockets of the wealthy is seen as a human right when it suits.

Don't trust the UN in the slightest, the millions stolen through that organisation over the years doesn't help make the world a nicer place, it adds to the burden.

 

Does that mean my interwebs will be free now? It is my right to have 50MBs connection speed so I demand that level of service when this gets put into effect

 

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Originally Posted by SafeKlok

Heh cool, that means I live in a country where in most places a human right is not met..
Maybe the UN will send relief to our broadbandless land.

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Originally Posted by WaRTaco

this.. seriously people don't have a right to healthcare or the internet. The companies and businesses that give you these are providing you a service. If someone provides you a serivice then its usually not free (example i took my car into the shop and had to paid because it was a service, it wasn't free.)

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Originally Posted by dontpwnmebro

"the right to life, liberty, property, and internet broadband"

Yes, because all rights are included in that saying.

Just to point out, in the US we also have a right to own guns. Is that really so much more absurd than the right to broadband?

 

There's a surprising amount of logical posts in this thread.. Was expecting it to consist entirely of "you only have the right to life and liberty".

 

I agree to an extent, I think by now everybody should have access to the internet as they would to food and water. Internet is such a huge part of society now that it would be like living in a hut still.

 

uhhh ok so who's gonna be the one to put broadband connection everywhere? even if you did, people in poor areas still wouldnt have computers to use anyways.