Received my Xtreme on 7/12/19 after a few delays from Newegg. They randomly opened up Pre-Order for them on the 5th so I pulled the trigger.

It seems as though the board wasn't fully ready for release by the 7th, but wasn't a big deal. But it's been on backorder the entire time I've seen it on Newegg now, so owners should slowly start popping up.

Will receive my 3900X on 7/18, but will be out of town so the actual build won't happen for a few weeks.

Got some shots of the board however...

 

My motherboard will be here tomorrow then the wait begins for the 3950X. I think the X570 Aorus Xtreme might be the most beautiful motherboard I have ever seen and likely the most powerful as well, I'm coming from a 5960X setup with an Asus rampage V Extreme mobo. Will build in my Xigmatek Elysium case again so there will be plenty of airflow, I have also a new Corsair 1600i PSU to go with this new build so exciting times ahead.

 

Hi, I notice we have the

hi! we have the same motherboard and cpu, could you help me overclock my cpu?

 

Lets get some overclocking tutorial videos for this board with the 3900x on here so we can compare notes. I am on 4.3ghz all cores but i am still learning some of this new oc stuff since i came from the x58 platform.

 

trn

I put one one back order today from the 'egg; I've been very happy with my Xtreme Z390 board so expecting good things from the X570 as well.

 

M.2pcie 4.0 isn't recognized by my Xtreme in the bios. I did manage to install Windows because the boot priority saw the USB stick but never did it see the actual m.2. I do have some factors that could be the cause but I'm not sure. One being I was short one 8pin for the cpu and two being I had the m.2 installed in the second slot not the first for the bigger heatsink plate of metal. After rebooting and checking the bios continues to not see the m.2 so next I'm going to try and check the boot sequence option (f12) I saw a video where their m.2 wasn't seen by the bios but through the boot sequence were able to see the harddrive. I don't have any other hardives connected and I'll probably update bios after I install my new PSU I'm getting Thursday. If there's anyone else that may have solutions please let me know.

 

 

My Xtreme arrived with the Ryzen 7 3800X this morning.

No good camera though so can't take such quality pictures as above.

Seems the parts had tumbled around a little looking at the packaging.

 

Yeah mine had moved around as well inet hadn't put any bubbleplastic in the very large box but luckily it's seems fine. It's by far the heaviest motherboard I have ever encountered it feels extremely impressive. Have the AX1600i since before so now the base of the build is covered, now for memory, cpu cooler (likely another Phanteks PH-TC14PE Black since it's very good), a NVMe Gen4 SSD (should probably wait for better controller but the gigabyte one is so sexy) and the 3950X Cpu and we are ready to go.

 

I'm running memtest86 runs for various memory speeds I can boot at the moment and I'm quite blown that my Micron E-die can run 4000Mhz @ 1.200volts with XMP/AUTO timings for 2x8Gb at the moment.

EDIT: For 4066 speed I need to make changes and can't run AUTO everything it seems. But damn 4000Mhz with 1.200V and AUTO/XMP.

 

M.2 slot covers...

I have an X570 Xtreme on backorder!

Question on the M.2 slots for those who already have this board. Are the M.2 slot covers just decorative, or are they functional heat sinks?

Are you supposed to put them back in place after installing the M.2 SSD drive or do you leave them off?

Do they make contact with the SSD? What do you do if the SSD already has an attached heat sink? Do you have to remove it, or do you leave the cover off?

 

They are indeed are a functioning heat sink they even have the thermal pads covered by a thin layer of plastic behind the metal plate to prevent the stickiness from accumulating dust till you apply the m.2 in the slot. I installed mine in the second slot because it was a bigger chunk of metal for better heat dissipation. I did remove the thermal covering for the pcie 4.0 it would be a horrible asthetic look if you did keep the 1st slots metal plate off but i have a feeling it would be a better heat sink if you did because the bottom of the metal plates are not covering the m.2 only the top part. Choice is yours better heat sink vs aesthetic looks. I am though currently trying to figure out if me installing the m.2 in the second slot is the reason why the bios doesn't recognize the m.2. inconvenient timing on going to vacation the day i finally had all the pieces together to actually try and get it up and running. Windows installed fine but after the reboot the bios still didnt see he m.2. Someone already linked a nice video though in chinese on the possibility of using a boot drive bios update. I have alot of things I can try now when I return home.

I have an X570 Xtreme on backorder!

Question on the M.2 slots for those who already have this board. Are the M.2 slot covers just decorative, or are they functional heat sinks?

Are you supposed to put them back in place after installing the M.2 SSD drive or do you leave them off?

Do they make contact with the SSD? What do you do if the SSD already has an attached heat sink? Do you have to remove it, or do you leave the cover off?

 

Thanks for the info!

I'm considering getting one of the new aorus PCIe 4.0 M.2 SSDs. They come with an already-attached finned copper heatsink. (Maybe all PCIe 4.0 drives will ?)

It's not clear what the best way to install it on the x570 Xtreme would be...

 

Sabrent Rocket
And
PrimoCache

all the way

 

It's ALIVE!

A little skinny yet, but will get filled up tomorrow.

EDIT: Now it's filled up with what it needed. Took a whole day and more.

 

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37662696

I got it a week ago. No issues with 2700x but bios is very simple for the hi-end mobo, no PBO settings

 

Settings -> AMD CBS -> XFR -> PBO -> enable/advanced mode.

 

I don’t have XFR and PBO in AMD CBS menu. I have only Pstates/Throttling, IBS, Prefetcher, Memory interleaving, and DRAM controller configuration. Bios version is F3e.

 

Probably only works on Ryzen 3000 sku:s then I guess.

 

Probably I’ll see when I’ll get 3950x or Zen3 later

 

Moreover here is no Ryzen power plan available in 1903 Windows 10 after installation of fresh AMD X570 chipset drivers.

 

Been testing stability for the most part the last days with various settings but there is so much more to test...

I got 3800Mhz memory working @ 1:1:1 mode with the fabric clock, Memory clock etc and GeardownMode Disabled 1T on top.

Otherwise this kit has no issue with the 3933Mhz speed but then your not running synced and lose a bit on the latency side. I was trying to get fabric up there to the same speed the kit could do but haven't been that lucky yet.

I'll be going trough the timings next when I feel like it but it's been a little more time than planned to just get GDM disabled working than I thought so I'll probably just play some games whatnot first. I have other things to do that have been postponed as I was trying to get it to work without issue first.

 

Not bad, did you tried AIDA burning test? Is it pass 20-30 min at 3800 1:1?

 

I tried it for 15min with some new settings but found no issue, but tried my memory testing procedure right after and it found a errors within a few minutes.

It's not a good tool to test stability.
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EDIT:

Have now lowered my timings to what is reasonable from this memory kit @ 3800Mhz 1:1:1 mode. I seemed to have reached quite similar result on Gen 1 but @ 3733Mhz instead for B350.
It's what this kit could really do with timings though there is more Mhz left if I could only get more from the FCLK and UCLK to match the memory. Running asynchronous isn't too viable with only up to 3933Mhz left in the kit from what I've found.

I could push CL14 for the kit as well but kept encountering errors now and then so backed down to CL15 as there really wasn't much diffrence and you needed to run so much more voltage to the kit it wasn't worth it.
1.45V vs 1.54-1.55V for CL15 VS CL14.

 

https://nl.hardware.info/artikel/9411/15-amd-x570-moederborden-review-op-de-proef-met-een-3900x
Thermals vs other flagships with R9 3900X

Aorus Xtreme - backside 48.3°C , frontside 50.1°C (208W , CB R20 7245)

MEG Godlike - 54.1°C backside , frontside 54.2°C (193W, CB R20 7234)

ROG Formula - 56.8°C backside, frontside 57.3°C (230W , CB R20 7240)



Aorus Xtreme awarded "ULTIMATE"

 

@AlphaC That's a fun test there. Thanks for sharing!

I tested PBO stuff in BIOS and I can only conclude it's broken/artificially limited on power draw for core power and package power. There are 2 configurations possible on what the board will allow with PBO settings enabled in various combinations.

AS measured in HWiNFO64:
CPU Package Power (SMU): ~110W & ~120W
CPU Core Power (SVI2 TFN): ~60W to ~65W

This limits clocks/voltages the board/PBO will be allow to run and be constrained into. It tries it best with this limit but the limits are so low if struggles to produce results!
Where is that unlimited board power or for that matter design power at 140W anywhere to be seen as advertised for the CPU as said by AMD?

As you figure the higher power draw usually performs better but that depends on settings. In differing combinations one PBO setting will push the core's to use more voltage for any particular frequency, that's bad...
You want the setting that will use less voltage for any frequency. Easiest to see is the combo that doesn't allow the CPU to run 1.500V freely when viewed from HWiNFO64. For me that's around ~1.481V Maximum.

It's a little confusing which combo gives this result at the moment as there are duplicate entries for PBO in various fields in the BIOS and you can set them enabled and disabled at the same time and various ways with Manual settings are in both and divided apart for them, they aren't all in the same place.

In the end basically this means PBO doesn't produce any better Cinebench R20 scores than having it all disabled/auto and sticking with regular PB only!
It uses the lower voltages and your CPU isn't limited to a 110W or 120W CPU Package power limit!

STOCK you get a 140Watt limit without PBO enabled!
With PBO you are either limited for 110 or 120Watts CPU Package Power!

I tested this mostly running Cinebench R20 for now as I wanted to see if I could get better results. It failed to do better than stock scores and then I noticed the limited power draw and well... I hope it's not just Cinebench R20 it does so for.

I had some screenshot from running Prime95 @ stock and it was ~140Watts limited for CPU package Power & ~75Watts CPU Core Power for Maximum values.
I did a quick check with PBO enabled and it used ~113Watts for CPU Package power and ~65Watts CPU Core Power for the first few minutes.

No one else notice anything similar?

EDIT: Ok, I might have been to quick with all this as with further testing Prime95 ramps up on wattage in a later stages up to 140W. Not the first few tests. But there was still that 10Watt difference for Cinebench R20 between settings I noticed.

 

The test was with manual OC 4.1Ghz all core r9 3900X @1.3V


On Siliconlottery that is a low bin R9 3900X: https://siliconlottery.com/collections/all/amd-r9-3900x
4.0GHz @ 1.2V
4.05GHz @ 1.212V
4.1GHz @ 1.225V
4.15GHz @ 1.237V
4.2GHz @1.25V


I suspect it is because they use 240mm AIO on QVL.


Also der8auer testing had something where the CPU cuts current once you hit 200A I believe. There may be OCP (overcurrent protection) inside the CPU firmware.

Around 4:40

 

OCP? Software HWiNFO is barely reading 60A thus far for me in Prime95 a up to 140W load. Maybe the reading is wrong?

 

the CPU polls at 1ms , hwinfo64 polls less often IIRC

https://hwbot.org/submission/4195688_syberwolf_cinebench___r20_ryzen_9_3900x_7537_marks/
CB R20 at 4275Mhz (1.344V) on Aorus Master scores 7537 points (this eliminates BIOs motherboard manufacturer differences)

CB R20 @ 4350MHz (unsafe 1.44V) on Aorus Master scoring 7697 https://hwbot.org/submission/4192017_blueleader_cinebench___r20_ryzen_9_3900x_7697_marks
^ points disabled so blueleader probably is working at AMD since they also had R9 3950X

8058 pts at 4506MHz (unsafe 1.406 volts) on Crosshair VII Hero https://hwbot.org/submission/4196905_avengedrobix_cinebench___r20_ryzen_9_3900x_8058_marks

7878 points at 4.4GHz (unsafe 1.440V in CPU-Z) on unknown board:
https://hwbot.org/submission/4196802_sonofatech_cinebench___r20_ryzen_9_3900x_7878_marks

 

that's bad...

That’s not bad really because they are concerning about stability first. If you are the winner and bought a good piece of silicon you may tune frequencies/voltages using p-states.

 

Ok I have to admit fault. Cinebench R20 just doesn't use that much power to be had at all with these Zen 2 processors. The limit seems to be elsewhere.

I tried a All core OC 4.4Ghz with 1.375v LLC Medium (auto crashes) and I reach much the same values as with PBO enabled on power draw but better scores.
BPO just doesn't seem to perform.

 

That is normal for early bios something is working OK but something is not, just need to wait for the next agesa. I’m guessing that stability is major point here on early silicon stepping, so no room for overclocking