Do you have any rendering or applications that leverage CUDA or OpenCL?

If not the 1700x would give you significantly higher performance in those workloads. Also, the gaming difference largely depends on your configuration and settings as well. For 1440p the difference should be a lot closer.

 

Definitely 1700X. Gaming performance is pretty much the same for slightly less money.

 

AMD, definitely. Outside of a possible 6-core Cannonlake release, LGA-1151 probably doesn't have much life left. AM4 on the other hand already has Zen+ or Zen 2 or whatever in the works, plus more cores. For a workstation it's probably the better option. For gaming the 7700K is technically the better option, but it's not significant and your GPU tends to be the limitation anyway.

There's also the R7 1700. It's clocked a bit slower but it overclocks about as well and costs like $60 less.

 

1700X. 1440P isn't 1080p, more CPU performance is less of a big deal there.

 

I'd say go for the 1700x as it has more cores and a better life span. Lower TDP and better efficiency.

 

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AMD, definitely. Outside of a possible 6-core Cannonlake release, LGA-1151 probably doesn't have much life left. AM4 on the other hand already has Zen+ or Zen 2 or whatever in the works, plus more cores. For a workstation it's probably the better option. For gaming the 7700K is technically the better option, but it's not significant and your GPU tends to be the limitation anyway.

There's also the R7 1700. It's clocked a bit slower but it overclocks about as well and costs like $60 less.

I too would have gone with the 1700. I wouldn't have placed my order from a sketchy site and then have to wait nearly a month though.

1700X vs 7700K is easy recommendation for the 1700X though.

 

I went with the 7700K, better performance per core.

 

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I'd go with the 7700K, better performance per core.

The 1700X has twice the cores though. Plus twice the threads.

 

There isn't enough benefit in the 7700k in gaming to justify it over the 1700 in rendering IMO. Besides, AMD is still in it's infancy and will probably get better with motherboard bioses, drivers, etc.

 

Simple answer.

If all you do is game at low-ish res (up to 1080p) and your computing is done on Adobe products/CUDA accelerated stuff, 7700K.

If none of the above checks, Ryzen.

 

1700X Final answer.

 

Have you also looked at the total price of the system, including the Mobo and RAM? Depending on where you are the costs may vary, for example in Canada the 7700k is currently cheaper than the 1700x.

I think the 1700x is probably the better bet for your system though - at those resolutions there isn't a huge difference in gaming, and things may get better with future driver updates. Also worth keeping in mind is that AMD tend to stick to the same socket for a while, meaning you may be able to upgrade more easily than an Intel system that changes socket every other year.

 

My build votes 1700 too.

 

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1700X Final answer.

Says the intel CPU user, therefore you know its the proper way to do it.

 

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Have you also looked at the total price of the system, including the Mobo and RAM? Depending on where you are the costs may vary, for example in Canada the 7700k is currently cheaper than the 1700x.

I think the 1700x is probably the better bet for your system though - at those resolutions there isn't a huge difference in gaming, and things may get better with future driver updates. Also worth keeping in mind is that AMD tend to stick to the same socket for a while, meaning you may be able to upgrade more easily than an Intel system that changes socket every other year.

Facts Man is correct.

 

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I think the 1700x is probably the better bet for your system though - at those resolutions there isn't a huge difference in gaming, and things may get better with future driver updates. Also worth keeping in mind is that AMD tend to stick to the same socket for a while, meaning you may be able to upgrade more easily than an Intel system that changes socket every other year.

Also also worth keeping in mind is that, thanks to how AM4 works, there is very little reason to switch to a new socket. Everything is contained on the CPU die. A CPU which supports 24 PCIe lanes and two DDR4 channels should have no problems whatsoever.

Now, if Zen gets updated with tri-channel memory, or the memory speeds get so fast the socket needs to be redesigned? Yeah, maybe. Otherwise, don't expect much until DDR5.

 

You've got at the very least another iteration of Zen on AM4 with fully fledged compatibility.

 

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Also also worth keeping in mind is that, thanks to how AM4 works, there is very little reason to switch to a new socket. Everything is contained on the CPU die. A CPU which supports 24 PCIe lanes and two DDR4 channels should have no problems whatsoever.

Now, if Zen gets updated with tri-channel memory, or the memory speeds get so fast the socket needs to be redesigned? Yeah, maybe. Otherwise, don't expect much until DDR5.

That actually is a good point. Also don't forget AMD has a history of keeping the same socket for a few generations, so when Ryzen 3 (or whatever it's called) is released on AM4+, it will most likely still work on the AM4 board you buy (assuming you do go with the 1700X) so you just have to buy a new CPU rather than a new CPU and a new motherboard if you go for the 7700K.

 

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That actually is a good point. Also don't forget AMD has a history of keeping the same socket for a few generations, so when Ryzen 3 (or whatever it's called) is released on AM4+, it will most likely still work on the AM4 board you buy (assuming you do go with the 1700X) so you just have to buy a new CPU rather than a new CPU and a new motherboard if you go for the 7700K.

Maybe not with AM4 boards this early on. Later-life AM3 boards did offer limited support for AM3+ chips with BIOS updates, but I'm not sure about the launch boards.

Still, not much to worry about. What was the difference between AM3 and AM3+ anyway? One pin, no support for DDR2, and faster HyperTransport clocks? I can't remember.

 

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to be the end all build for me and my home based business

Ryzen

if you would only Render as in a hobby then the i7 would be better methinks
or just converting youre mother's movies from the cell phone to something less in size once or twice a year then the i7 would be good enough in those instances

but we're talking about business, as in productivity (even if its on a small scale)

more cores/more threads, more time saved

you would probably be disappointed not getting 144 fps in older games, but like 120 should be fine as well, that is if youre graphics card is not the bottleneck in those circumstances anyway

games are getting better at utilizing more threads
the future should be better for Ryzen

still, the productivity for the bucks youre spending is what makes it stand out

 

7700k if you're using premiere or adobe in general. it uses so much cuda you might as well 7700k and get max performance in games while still doing damn good with cuda on adobe software. not to mention you can make a 7700k run 1ghz faster than ryzen which at that rate causes 7700k to walk the dog on ryzen in gaming.

 

first of all i would like to thank everyone for helping me make this decision a lot easier! You definitely convinced me to go with the R7 and will be running a GTX 1070 or 1080. Just not sure if the base speed on the 1700x is worth the price over the 1700 on a 1440p 144hz monitor. Plus the 1700 comes with the cooler and the 1700x doesnt(?)on amazon) I dont think the 1700x will give me the value over the 1700 where that money could go into getting the 1080.

Writing this out made me decide to get the 1700 unless anyone convinces me otherwise? lol

 

Sure, go for it. Just don't be like @Artikbot and order from a sketchy site

 

1700/1700x.

 

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Sure, go for it. Just don't be like @Artikbot and order from a sketchy site

Thanks lol Ill be ordering form amazon