Placed some orders for 5700Gs.

Looking to make some cheapo PCs around the workshop here. Mostly used for ordering, communication and updates.

Although, finding that perfect 'motherboard' shall be quite a chore .

Need to avoid above all else, anything Made by Gigabyte.

 

Wanna help with binning

 

Bought one 5700G for replacement of the 4650G I have, which will be used in another system as I had initially planned.

The 4650G was a disappointment in general other than to play around with for MEM OC for a while. WIll use it to upgrade a Ryzen 5 1600X system with a older GPU. One build where is used a Passive NH-P1 to cool the system for fun. Should manage really well with the 4650G there.

The 5700G I hope is not locked down like the PRO 4650G was. You could not increase PPT/TDC/EDC from stock values making it really gimped in performance overall.
(4650G had horrible Manual OC clocks as well, trash silicon)

 

The 5700G I hope is not locked down like the PRO 4650G was. You could not increase PPT/TDC/EDC from stock values making it really gimped in performance overall.
(4650G had horrible Manual OC clocks as well, trash silicon)

The 4750G wasn't much better and the 8MB cache helped to really cripple it with Firefox. Stopped using it when it started to choke on 250+ loaded pages.

Hoping the 5700G will cope with the latest Firefox juggernaut. That app alone really helps to cripple most CPUs except for the 10900K which can handle up to 460+ webpages loaded into memory.

At this stage, just need something that stays working for days without collapsing.

 

I was thinking about getting one to replace my 3700x/WX3200 work machine but I went full ****** and bought a laptop instead.

If the 5700g turns out to be better, I may replace my 5600x with it at some point. I like having the iGPU as a fallback for when things go wrong.

 

thinking of replacing my HTPC's 4650G with a 5700G too, but I rarely do anything on that machine that would warrant the upgrade 🙃

 

Building a Deskmini build with a 5700G. And i will probably try and find some of those B-die sodimms.

I was going to use my AXP-90R. But i don't think it will fit. So i will probably use my Cryorig C7G.

 

unfortunately everything is being scalped here..the 5700G is being sold for almost 500$ here I might hold off buying my son an upgrade..REEP!! worse, it should be bundled with a motherboard on purchase as well to get the price lower..

 

AMD Ryzen 5 5600G en Ryzen 7 5700G Review - Eindelijk moderne Ryzens met igpu

Met de Ryzen 5 5600G en Ryzen 7 5700G heeft AMD eindelijk weer een aanbod van desktop-processors met een geïntegreerde gpu. Bekijk onze uitgebreide benchmarks!

tweakers.net

 

I would love to read this but it is unfortunately not in a language I understand.

 

Just a Digital Audio Workstation guy, trying to use a 5600G and get by on the cheap, so I never OC’d anything. Just bought the fastest chip from Intel and used ASRock Rack 1U boards.

Hoping there‘s a way to tweak my CPU to get the highest polyphony my apps allow. This use to be brute single core speed.

Still want all cores running @ the same speed and 500MHz boost over stock speeds.
I know this is a new CPU but I’ll be using an Asus B550 mATX and hope there’s a thread, maybe this one where tips and tricks are shared.

If not can I just use the same tricks a 5600X would use?


Thanks

 

Got 5600G to build HTPC/file server in a micro ATX case (Cooler Master)....chose Asrock B550 Steel Legend....pretty excited about the build. Also got one for my son to upgrade his 1700..he's going from B350 to B550 (Tuf Gaming). Both will be running DDR4 4000 CL18....his Win 10, mine Win11 and Ubuntu.

 

My Ryzen 7 5700G has arrived.

I see it says "Unlocked" on the BOX, should be unrestricted to use with PBO unlike the PRO variants you could get prior generation.

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EDIT:
It is unlocked.
ALL PBO settings are in the AMD_OVERCLOCKING section of the BIOS.
All the ones that one needs for PBO to work properly.
A PRO 4650G was missing all these.

 

interesting to see how it goes.

in this review, 锐龙7 5700G/锐龙5 5600G首发评测：性能飞升、功耗更惊喜

It mentioned 5700G PBO tops out at 100w, 83c with cheap T612 tower cooler and all cores 4.65Ghz

5600G PBO tops out at 73W, 77c with the same T612 tower cooler and all cores 4.45Ghz.

I wonder if you can manually push PBO to a higher TDP and the autoOC +200

 

AMD Ryzen 7 5700G @ 4423.97 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

[03y0t9] Validated Dump by NIGHTHOG (2021-08-09 18:43:50) - MB: Gigabyte X570 AORUS XTREME - RAM: 32768 MB

valid.x86.fr

Just a quick test result with PBO & +200Mhz Boost.

 

Checked AIDA64 Latency, it's jumping around quite a bit, but can go quite low.

 

 

Here's the lowest latency I've managed so far with Aida64 using my 5700g

 

But how stable is it? 24/7 stable or just for benchmarking?
I found 2400FCLK needed lots more VSOC than you are using if I want to actually stress test anything on my system.

 

for regular zen3, you can get away with 1900 IF at ~1.15v vsoc.

how much vsoc does zen3 apu need for >2000 IF, how about the dram voltage for >4000MT? 1.5v?

 

Here are the PBO settings you can use with the 5700G in the AMD_OVERCLOCKING section.

I wonder what the stock SOC TDC & SOC EDC are.
I'm not reaching the EDC/TDC targets I've set. EDC doesn't go above 125A and TDC really refuses to go above stock 65A at all pretty much. Hitting a limit elsewhere.

 

Here are the PBO settings you can use with the 5700G in the AMD_OVERCLOCKING section.

I wonder what the stock SOC TDC & SOC EDC are.
I'm not reaching the EDC/TDC targets I've set. EDC doesn't go above 125A and TDC really refuses to go above stock 65A at all pretty much. Hitting a limit elsewhere.

is it on latest bios?
sadly i dont see any manual PBO tests around.

what is 5700g high temperature clock limit shown in hwinfo?

Do Ryzen CPU's downclock once they reach 75 degrees?

Say I have my frequency at 4800, if it reached 75ish degrees when each core got to 4700, would it stop going up any further due to the thermal throttling? If so, the only way to reach 4800 would be with better cooling? Is there any way I can make that limit at 85 since I have a pretty good air...

www.overclock.net

could you be limited by temps?
i believe cb r23 is able to push edc as high with lower core temps

 

Hmm there is a issue...

F34 X570 Xtreme.

35W TDP?
PPT sets STAPM Power Limit rather than setting PPT... (It has a duration limit, not unlimited)

Shall test if I can circumvent these issues. EDIT: Did not find a solution.

 

What is the safety soc voltage for memory test above FCLK 2400+？

 

No one know what is "safe"

I only know I need 1.400V SoC for 2400FCLK to be stable if I disabled iGPU.
2433FCLK... needs more than 1.450V to be stable... Didn't test thoroughly it out as the voltage was getting ridiculous.

2500+ FCLK seems like only possible if you XOC or do benchmark runs but impossible to run 24/7.

Though we only have a sample of one yet. No idea on the quality of silicon I have in my chip.

 

What VSOC should i try for 4000 and 4133 memory on 5700G?

 

Should manage with stock/AUTO for that.

 

moved to correct section

 

1.8v on ram? 😲

 

I Love that APU

4733 c16 Singelrank

4400 c14 Dualrank

I have an IF Hole between 4400 and 4600

 

I have now tried 1.15V and 1.2V vsoc on 2033 FCLK, but nope. Refuses to boot into Windows, i get to the login screen, then it reboots.. but sometimes not even there. I also tried setting VSOC Voltage LLC to Level 2 (lower level is stronger on ASRock) 2000FCLK also now seems problematic.. confused. Booting into Windows with FCLK 1966 and keeping the 4066 on RAM is fine.

ASRock boards also have:

SoC/Uncore OC Voltage(VID)
Specify the SoC/Uncore voltage (VDD_SOC) in mV to support memory and Infinity Fabric overclocking. VDD_SOC also determines the GPU voltage on processors with integrated graphics. “SoC/Uncore OC Mode” needs to be enabled to force this voltage

But from my google search, it seems to not be the right setting to use for vsoc?

 

I have now tried 1.15V and 1.2V vsoc on 2033 FCLK, but nope. Refuses to boot into Windows, i get to the login screen, then it reboots...

Good (or bad?) to hear that there are other people with the same problem. Which board do you use?

Solution for me is to find the right ProcODT value. For example with DDR4-4000 i have to use ProcODT 36 or 43. Other values (40, 48, 53, ...) will boot but reboot if the login screen appears. Maybe you can try the same and test if a value between 36 and 60 will work for you.

 

Maybe your apu has an if hole around 2000-2033? try it higher, and use your normal soc voltage in bios

 

I can try higher. However, i have KODI on startup, and before, my 2000FCLK would run fine in Aida benchmark and memtest and normal windows task, but would reboot when i tried opening KODI. Could the iGPU do this? together with the 2000-2033 FCLK?

 

Tried 2066fclk, still reboot. Tried up to 1.2v vsoc.

Tried "Enabled SOC/Encore OC", left vsoc on auto and 2000fclk, and it booted. Closed kodi, and upon starting kodi again, reboot.

So, is there any other voltage/settings i should try when raising fclk?

 

What is you CLDO_VDDP voltage? It might be a too low, can cause reboots also.
Otherwise you might have a bad sample FCLK and need more than 1.200VSOC?

I can run 2100FCLK no issues with only 1.200V
2400FCLK needed all the way up-to 1.455V to avoid reboot issues at random loads for the most part but it wasn't only that though.

Higher FCLK has a effect on your Core voltage requirements so you might need to play around with Curve Optimizer adding positive offset to some cores.
I had some cores that became troublesome with higher FCLK needing help other than more VSOC to run fine.

I noted lower FCLK helped with Core stability when I was on the edge on settings for CO. Pushing FCLK overall pushes requirements for the CPU higher leaving less margin for your cores if they had marginal headroom from the start.

 

Bummer, could still trigger reboots @ 2400FCLK even though I managed to lessen the frequency.
Seems it's only really stable only untill 2366FCLK @ ~1.400V SoC at the high end, need to verify more, but could most likely manage with less @ 2366FCLK. But 1.350V is about minimum range from earlier.

Pushing VSOC all the way to 1.500V and other tweaks didn't fix the infrequent reboot with actual high usage loads @ 2400FCLK.