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It is time to sort out the the advantages, quirks, and performance of this motherboard for its users. I am starting the discussion off with a couple of benchmarks that I have uploaded.
 

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#2 ·
Here is my AIDA64 cache and memory benchmark and the the detailed memory and cpu findings with a competitive listing. MY computer averaged between second and third place overall. That included going against 32 core Threadripper and a host of 16 and 20 core Intel Xeon chips.
 

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#3 ·
I tweaked my memory timings and was able to increase my cinebench20 score:
 

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#7 ·
For the most part, things have for the most part been "bug-free", there is however the ongoing issue with over-zealous boosting (which results in higher temperatures when idle), but that is something I know AMD is working on resolving with an indication that on July 30, 2019 something will be announced - See: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ciajef/placeholder_update_on_whea_warnings_destiny_2_and/


BuildZoid explains this behaviour of the Ryzen CPUs comprehensively over here -
 
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#6 ·
still waiting for 1.0.0.3ab agesa

it works quite good with 3700x

https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/14068131

It seems that MSI has just today released the AGESA 1.0.0.3ab bios for the MEG X570 ACE.

I've not had a chance to test it yet - but will try and test it this evening, if you - or anyone else - gets a chance please let us know how you get on.


MSI MEG X570 ACE Support Link: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/MEG-X570-ACE


Bios is versioned as 7C35v13


The Bios README file contains the following:


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MEG X570 ACE (MS-7C35) V1.3 BIOS Release
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1. This is AMI BIOS release

2. This BIOS fixes the following problem of the previous version:
- Update AMD ComboPI1.0.0.3ab
- Enhance M.2 RAID function

3. 2019/7/19


-- Chinese portion of README snipped for brevity --
Thanks.
 
#8 ·
how about the VRM and chipset temperature? reviewers saying the VRM temp is not that good on this board, at least way worse than C8H and Giga Master which are in the same class and price, and because of that I'm now split between MSI and Giga... that's the VRM concern, as for the chipset temperature, well no one seem to review those area :(
 
#9 ·
I've not noticed any issues with the VRM or Chipset (or any other part of this board to be honest). Which reviews are you talking about? Could you possibly link to them? The Crosshair 8 Hero and the Gigabyte Aorus Master are both decent boards, but that doesn't render the MSI MEG X570 ACE somehow inferior.


Could you please post links to the reviews that you speak of. Thank you very much :)
 
#11 ·
Hey guys, if anyone has any info about the new bios I'd appreciate it other than whats on MSI's website. Currently "struggling" on a set of A0 PCB B-die when posting at 3733 (1866 IF) e.g. it will not post on boot or restart occasionally but will always be stable once it gets it's crap together. If you found any quirks, etc are fixed I'd love any info from the previous. Thanks :)
 
#14 · (Edited)
Most Ryzen 3000 series cpus ( I have a 3900X) have problems with 3733mhz memory. Theoretically it should be fine but the cpus , unless they are like one in 50 can't be stable with infinity fabric above 1800mhz. Buildzoid has a cpu that can handle 1900mhz infinity fabric but he admits it is 1 in a 100 chance. So 3600mhz memory with 1800 fabric speed is going to predominate. perhaps some will luck out with 1833mhz fabric and be able to get a stable 3666mhz memory overclock to produce better results.
 
#15 ·
From a Asus Crosshair VII hero to a MSA Meg X570 Ace and I have to say not bad. Still getting the hang of the board so not there as yet, but so far not too bad. The bios is a little confusing, but mostly because I am used to Asus, I'll get used to this eventually but for now I am happy. I'll post some results with my 3900X when I've settled in.
 
#17 · (Edited)
Actually the MSI bios is simpler and more straight forward than the Asus Crosshair bios. Asus has a way of inventing their own nomenclature for settings to make people think it is better. I used to have the Crosshair IV and the Crosshair V. I even bought the Crosshair VI on launch day for Ryzen 1st generation. Asus had loadeda bios that would not post and that was the breaking point for me and Asus. No apologies just a kick in the ass. They are too cocky and without much reason. I have no t bothered with precision boost . It wasn't working well at first and I am smart enough to get a maximum overclock without AMD's help. I have zero interest in 1 core boost as there are few games that really benefit from it and I will not buy those games and reward bad coders and developers for games that are technically poor.
 
#33 ·
Busy running Karhu Memstest.... already went past 3300% basically 98% stable with TRAS at 39, TRX 52 ,TRFC 296 and tCWL at 12. Now testing with TRAS at 36, TRC 48, TRFC 275 and TCWL at 10. Memory speed 3746, basically 3733 with BCLK 100.4 and the main timings CL 16, 16, 16 but 2T it will not apply 1T. Now I have a problem, cannot seem to run Ryzen Timing Checker as it states that CPU not supported so cannot see if gear down is enabled or disabled.
 
#59 ·
You are getting an instability glitch, turn the bclock back to 100. You like to ride the bleeding edge I see. Better get your bandaids ready.
 
#37 ·
looks good...i am sort of wondering what proves stable...i can have an overclock at that passes IBT and blender demo, but then fails prime...it's frustrating. or I can have an overclock that passes everything i throw at it, but then has lost signal errors on the monitor and the system reboots (figure that's a PCIe problem?)
 
#54 ·
Havn't done much overclocking yet. Only playing around with the memory. Aida64 bench attached.

3800x
MSI MEG ACE
32GB Corsair Dominator (Samsung B-Die)
MSI reference 5700XT
Swiftech Apogee SKF CPU block
EK-Vector GPU block

After I lock in my ram I want to work on my cpu overclock then move to the GPU. Currently running 1900 FCLK and 3800Mhz on my ram. Using the ram calculator timings and voltages. Hoping I can push a little further and/or tighter on the timings.
 

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#55 ·
have you try gear down instead of 2Τ
 
#56 · (Edited)
Here is a pick with gear down enabled. I set the cpu to 1.35v on the vcore and set 44x as the multiplier. Booted right up.

I just installed ryzen master. Should I be using this to monitor my cpu temps etc? Or is there something better?
Also, I typically OC using the bios in the past. Should I be using ryzen master to adjust the cpu and ram instead?

**[Edit]**
Seems simply running games isn't a good enough way to stress test this setup. Cinebench r20 crashed and Linpack reports errors.
Backing the FLCK down to 1866 and the ram to the equivalent seems to have made Cinebench stable but not Linpack.

**[Edit2]**
Ok, it seems before I go much further I need to get some software installed to better monitor my setup and to stress test it.
I currently have CPUID HWMonitor, MSI Afterburner, Cinebench, LinpackXt, CPU-Z, GPU-Z, AIDA64 and Ryzen master installed. I was testing with MetroLL benchmark, X4: Foundations and Grim Dawn for games.

Is Linpack a cpu or memory test? I thought was memory but might be cpu? What software should I be using to test FLCK and memory?
What Software for CPU? And what software for GPU?
I have not touched the GPU yet for OC'ing.

**[Edit3]**
Hopefully last edit. :)
Found the Ryzen DDR4 24/7 stability thread. Currently running the stressapptest with the 1900 FCLK and 3800 memory. Then I can rule these out and confirm as stable. Then I'll move back to the cpu. I have my cpu clocked at 4.2Ghz currently to hopefully rule out any stability issues I might have been having from it.
 

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#57 ·
So far it seems my 1900 FCLK and 3800mhz memory are fine.
https://www.overclock.net/forum/28091752-post2778.html

Testing the cpu seems to be where my issues are. I am using handbrake and encoding 01:30:00 - 01:40:00 so 10minutes of the movie "Matrix" using x265.
Also running cinebench over and over and over. Seems Handbrake will allow the cpu to move around lower and raise the mhz of each core. Where as cinebench pegs each core to it's max.

1.3vcore with the cpu set to 43x so 4300mhz I seem 100% stable. Ran tests for several hours to ensure no crashing. Moving to 44x and 1.4v I can usually get the system to crash eventually. But it could be 10min up to an hour of just constantly keeping the cpu at 100% usage all cores. It gets a small break in between tests as I click run is all.

I tried moving the cpu/soc voltage up to 1.1 then to 1.15 with no change to stability. I should prolly try 4325, 4350 or 4375 to see if any of those clocks are 100% stable. Just figured I would update my results with this setup. If anyone has any ideas on how to make or what to try to get 4.4Ghz 100% stable. I'm game to try it.
Also, my max temps in Ryzen master were showing 71c with my water cooling setup at 4.4Ghz and 1.4v.
Another note, is that having the voltage at 1.35 or 1.4 doesn't seem to make any difference except in the temperature department for me. 1.35v = 68-69c and 1.4v = 71-72c

Bios settings, for the cpu are pretty much all auto except the cpu/soc I am leaving at 1.1, the vcore at 1.35v and the multiplier at 44x. Everything else is auto unless it pertains to ram. I am keeping all of that where it's at for now as I know it's stable according to the DDR4 memory stress test thread.
 
#58 ·
Since there's no board MSI X570 "Club" thread ...

Anybody here own the MPG X570 Pro Carbon Wifi?

Can I see your system with all SATA ports occupied or just the two top facing ones?
 
#63 ·
Nice work. I am still waiting for the1.4 bios to see what improvements the 1.03abb agesa code will offer us.
 
#66 ·
Found a new clock speed I think I'll be happy with.... in the cb runs the temps is with CB20. Scores are lower than they should be as 2d benchmarks with the Msi Meg X570 Ace is not that great. My latency also lower than it should actually be.
 

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#68 ·
Subbed cause I need to juice up my meg ace

Great thread.
 
#72 ·
Did someone test de new beta bios officialy posted on msi? https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/MEG-X570-ACE#down-bios

Version
7C35v144(Beta version)
Release Date
2019-08-21
File Size
14.7 MB
Description
- Update AMD ComboPI1.0.0.3abb
- Improve memory compatibility.
Note: MSI do not recommend updating the BIOS unless it is necessary

I installed it. It works. There were no obvious differences or improvements compared to version 130 or 142.


I went back to 120 with a BCLK OC that seems to work very well with 3900X.
 

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#75 ·
Okay I ran onto an issue Thursday night. I was starting to insulate my mobo with art eraser to do a dry ice bench over the weekend. Initially my system hanged at qpost 62, little did I know that the 2 x pcie plugs for my gpu was not plugged in and our gardener unplugged my screen. Because I was worried and have not seen the monitor unplugged I took off all the insulation plugged everything back together including monitor.

Unfortunately now it hangs at qpost c5 which apparently is memory related. I then took out one memory dimm with only one in A2 as per manual. Then it would go up to qpost 54 and soon after hang at qpost 4d. No description for either in manual. The led's on the board will only lit up for cpu with one dimm then go dead, with 2 dimms and c5 qpost it would go from cpu to memory and stay with memory led lit.

Already emailed the shop to take board, cpu and memory to them to test.



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#79 ·
Okay update with my situation. Cpu and memory fine. Motherboard buggered. Shop send me pictures of apparent watermarks on the board. I told them it can't be the only liquid I used on the board was acetone which dont conduct electricity and will leave marks if just left to evaporate. So Ill see what the supplier state but if they refuse because of the marks I will ask for proof that it is water instead of acetone.

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#76 ·
So I'm new to overclocking. I think my stuffs is good, but after using the Memory Set it settings from the bios and the Ryzen Master, I'm not sure where to go from here.

3900x, My ram is 4 dimms of Ripjaw Vs 3200 cl14 that I was able to run together with my 1700x/370 rig. I'm using a kracken x62, and I used the TR paste layout (which I think is necessary with the die layout under the IPC) and an EVGA 650 P2

So clearly I could do more with my rig and my cinabench score isn't all that great for what i'm running, what should I be aiming for as far as overclocking this more.

Also... did get those 3600 cl14 timings get posted? I hear that's a sweet spot and I want to see if I can run that as my daily use setting.
 

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