Thanks for starting this thread! Will be closely watching.

Definitely leaning towards MSI this upgrade.. ASUS bios' have been questionable.

 

I'm indifferent at the moment. I'm thinking of trying out a Z790 board, but it might be either an MSI or an ASUS.
I tried both the ASUS Strix and the MSI Edge for Z690, but stuck with the MSI Edge.

The MSI Edge Z790 will finally have a proper Clear CMOS button on the back panel, which is very tempting to swap to.
But the SP readout on ASUS boards is still very useful to have.

 

Everyone's using those SP rating numbers now when selling or testing their CPU's. If they could list that information as part of a test like in CPUZ or Geekbench, but they don't even show the ASIC Quality level on GPU's anymore.

 

I'm kind of hoping that other motherboard manufacturers adopt the SP reading into their own BIOSes.
It doesn't make sense to give ASUS a free monopoly on overclockers who want to bin chips, since it's the easiest and quickest way to do so.

 

Interesting. I don't wanna have to upgrade to ddr5 now that I have 2 pretty good 32GB DDR4 B-Die kits and this Edge DDR4 would be amazing for me. I can even slap in a cheap used 12900K/KF/KS from people who upgrade to a 13xxx.

I much prefer the MSI BIOS over the ASUS one I have in my Maximus XIII Hero Z590 now. Thanks for this info thread!

Offtopic. I wish my Maximus didn't have SP ratings tho. At least I wouldn't have been disappointed as much as I am right now in my new 11900KF that I bought on sale.. It's SP50... 1.700v VID's for 5.3 all core... It will do 5.2 all core at 1.388v ish but 5.3 is impossible. Can't even complete a single Cinebench R23 run at 1.510v..

 

Although I'm still undecided in terms of what motherboard to ultimately stick with, I'll be parting with my 12900KF and its golden IMC if the 13900K I buy turns out to be better.

Let me know in a PM if you're interested. It'll boot 4,300 MHz even with 32 GB B-die DR (but obviously not stable at that). Realistic stable is more like 4,200-4,266 MHz depending on timings.

Five cores at 53x, three at 52x, and ring at 50-51x, requires 1.37V on load for y-cruncher all tests, or 1.35-1.36V with just the main test.

That reminds me: Do ASUS boards have Per Core multipliers? I can't recall. Because if it's only turbo, that would make it weaker than MSI. I know EVGA doesn't (on DDR5).

 

Most likely you will end up with buying MSI then, Asus does not offer midrange mobos with monoblocks.

Also some will be shocked by the prices Asus asks for their Z790 mobos.

 

No company offered a monoblock for Z690 DDR4 so far. Only DDR5.
Hopefully there's some luck with Z790, though. Otherwise, I'll have to go with makeshift solutions.

 

For work i would rather have a platform with ECC Memory, but kinda depends on what you work with.

 

Of course; it always depends on use-case

 

Had a MPG Z690 EDGE WIFI DDR4 that was DOA, wouldn't recognize memory/cpu even after trying all the obvious things with support. Support overall was very helpful and got it RMA'd within a day or so. Picked up the same board from a local supplier and it's been great since without any issues.

 

Interested in the Edge, if it's priced not too far from the z690 one.

 

ASUS Z790/H770/B760 – The best motherboards for 14th Gen Raptor Lake-S refresh and 13th Gen Intel Raptor Lake-S and 12th Gen Intel Alder Lake CPUs

ASUS Z790 motherboards are designed to get the most out of 12th , 13th and 14th Gen Intel® Core™ processors and feature PCIe® 5.0, DDR5 support with AEMP II, AI-powered technologies, Thunderbolt™ (USB4®) support, and WiFi 7.

www.asus.com

Asus new mobo gen landing page is up, no Gene or Apex yet.

 

gigabyte has no tachyon as well currently, msi has no unifyx too.

 

I think I am going to be going with the Tomahawk. Don’t like the silver on the Edge

 

This is supposed to be MSI thread...

 

my bad, don't you want to look over the edge ?

 

MSI has their Z790 boards listed on their site as well.

 

Where is that link for da lazy boyz ? well, well it is not in your op.

 

Preorder 13900k and Tomahawk on Newegg

 

No unify?

 

Canada Computers & Electronics

MSI MPG Z790 EDGE WIFI DDR4 LGA 1700 Motherboard

www.canadacomputers.com

MSI Edge Z790 is priced at $500 CAD...

 

MSRP is 369 USD

 

I'm sure someone has a better list or whatever, this info seemed the most important to me (mainly layer count and listed ram frequency)

 

Odd that the ACE is MIA.

 

I myself pre-ordered the MSI MPG Z790 Carbon. I think its best from the higher end side of things. Seems to have 7600mhz mem OC listed on MSI website which is higher than the rest of the boards under it and on par with what is listed for Ace and Godlike for memory.

Asus HERO is absolutely ridiculous for how little it offers at close to $850 cad. Wth is even Asus thinking...

 

I myself pre-ordered the MSI MPG 790 Carbon. I think its best from the higher end side of things.

It's hard to argue for more, really - the Carbon cuts down on the excess connectivity of say the ACE, but keeps the power delivery, the storage, and the post code reader, which you'll want for DDR5. Only real OC feature you could miss could be the dual-BIOS support.

Asus HERO is absolutely ridiculous for how little it offers at close to $850 cad. Wth is even Asus thinking...

Aside from being ATX vs. EATX for the ACE, the Hero loses two NVMe slots onboard (you can use a riser for two more, but then lose that fourth slot).

Can't say I know what they're thinking either. Granted, I've been staring at the gold styling on this ACE for six months, and don't know what MSI was thinking with that...

 

Hi guys, is there anything about Unify-I this gen? Highly interested in MSI since the Z790 Apex is probably going to be 1000€+, and that’s too much for motherboard for me. Edge looking good for its price too especially for RAM OC, but if there still a chance for Unify I’m willing to wait for it

 

So I grabbed a Z690 Tomahawk for $220 CAD through Amazon Wearhouse Deals. The Z790 is $420. No brainer to at least try it. Have 30 days to return it if I have any issues with it and grab the Z790.

 

Yeah, I'm sure a lot of people will be opting for a Z690 board just to save money this time around. The difference from a Z790 is incredibly minimal, in terms of hardware.
It only makes more sense for the upper end of DDR5 memory overclocking.

 

no z790 unify x?

 

No Unify period so far.

 

Looks pretty good. Box was good. Definitely was open and was not in the original static bag. Protective plastic been peeled off. All accessories were still sealed

 

So you bought it used? Or was it not from Amazon directly?

 

Now I just need some Hynix A-Die 7200mhz+ for my new mobo. Looks like there is not a single one for sale in Canada yet. I might be waiting for a while until i build this new Intel 13 gen.

 

It's still too new. Only way to get it is from Splice or Taobao (but that requires a forwarder).
@sugi0lover may even be nice enough to sell you one of his if you ask politely.
But they are all bare sticks right now. So you'd have to install your own heatspreaders.

Otherwise, TeamGroup is coming out with what is most likely going to be the first A-die ICs, so keep on the lookout:

TeamGroup's ultra-fast DDR5-7200 memory debuts at 350 USD - VideoCardz.com

TeamGroup’s DDR5 memory ready for next-gen CPUs Could this be Hynix A-die chip? We were notified that there is a new DDR5 memory kit listed on Newegg. Unlike most kits out there, this one is above 7 GHz (or GT/s if you prefer). This memory was made by Team Group, and it’s part of the […]

videocardz.com

 

What’s do you think of the msi z790 ace is better for gaming?
For 13 generation cpu is intended!!!