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Guys I can't get my RAM XMP to enable in anyform on MSI Edge Z790 and 13900k, I tried latest BIOS, PC simply won't post with anything higher than 2133Mhz, even messing with VDDQ, VDRAM and SA, I'm using Thermalright Contact Frame and I tried every kind of pressure and the problem persists, I will now try the earliest BIOS available, last thing I will do is to put default ILM back and see if it changes something, it's really weird, even trying manual RAM like 3000Mhz and everything AUTO it won't post, only 2133Mhz.
 
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Guys I can't get my RAM XMP to enable in anyform on MSI Edge Z790 and 13900k, I tried latest BIOS, PC simply won't post with anything higher than 2133Mhz, even messing with VDDQ, VDRAM and SA, I'm using Thermalright Contact Frame and I tried every kind of pressure and the problem persists, I will now try the earliest BIOS available, last thing I will do is to put default ILM back and see if it changes something, it's really weird, even trying manual RAM like 3000Mhz and everything AUTO it won't post, only 2133Mhz.
What is the XMP profile itself?

Try using a Memory Try It! profile to boot instead.
 
What is the XMP profile itself?

Try using a Memory Try It! profile to boot instead.
3600 CL15-15-15-35 1.35v XMP, I tried many many things, Clear CMOS, changed to 3 different BIOS, update Intel ME, update all Windows drivers and mobo drivers from official page, changed M2 NVMe to 2 different slots, removed my Vertical GPU Mount, different levels of pressure in the Thermalright Contact Frame, the board simply won't post anything post 2133Mhz, and even if I manually try to set 2133Mhz I can't get it to work, it HAS to be a ''reset to default value'' and save and then reboot and it will post, now I will try the last thing which is remove the contact frame and put original ILM, if that doesn't fix it I think this board is bricked somehow and I will replace with.
 
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3600 CL15-15-15-35 1.35v XMP, I tried many many things, Clear CMOS, changed to 3 different BIOS, update Intel ME, update all Windows drivers and mobo drivers from official page, changed M2 NVMe to 2 different slots, removed my Vertical GPU Mount, different levels of pressure in the Thermalright Contact Frame, the board simply won't post anything post 2133Mhz, and even if I manually try to set 2133Mhz I can't get it to work, it HAS to be a ''reset to default value'' and save and then reboot and it will post, now I will try the last thing which is remove the contact frame and put original ILM, if that doesn't fix it I think this board is bricked somehow and I will replace with.
Oof, that does sound like an RMA/return situation.
Have you tried Memory Try It! yet?

Either way, this is good to know. Means the Z790 Edge might be unstable for now and Z690 is still better.
 
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Oof, that does sound like an RMA/return situation.
Have you tried Memory Try It! yet?

Either way, this is good to know. Means the Z790 Edge might be unstable for now and Z690 is still better.
Yes I tried Memory Try It, no success, also just tried default ILM, no success too. Last thing I will try is integrated video onboard without my GPU.
 
Yes I tried Memory Try It, no success, also just tried default ILM, no success too. Last thing I will try is integrated video onboard without my GPU.
Is it new ram and you have you tested it on other systems? Given that you already boosted SA it does look like it will need to RMA'd.

I point this out because my 4400 kit previously wouldn't work at XMP timings, only recently after I pushed the SA up to 1.35v+ did the middle timings drop to what they should be.

Its 4400 19-19-19, I could only get it to boot at stock everything and XMP at 19-20-20 but previously only used a maximum of 1.3v SA. After boosting SA to 1.35-1.4, the middle timings dropped by 1, but I've only tested it at 4900 17-22-22 with the higher SA, before I was running 4533 15-23-23 and 4800 17-23-23 at under 1.3v SA.
 
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Guys I can't get my RAM XMP to enable in anyform on MSI Edge Z790 and 13900k, I tried latest BIOS, PC simply won't post with anything higher than 2133Mhz, even messing with VDDQ, VDRAM and SA, I'm using Thermalright Contact Frame and I tried every kind of pressure and the problem persists, I will now try the earliest BIOS available, last thing I will do is to put default ILM back and see if it changes something, it's really weird, even trying manual RAM like 3000Mhz and everything AUTO it won't post, only 2133Mhz.
I had the same issue when I first booted up this system. On initial boot, I enabled XMP and and hit “ save and exit”. Nothing. Black screen. Tried a lot of things, including raising the memory voltage to 1.4. Still nothing. Finally I cleared CMOS, pulled the battery, then updated to the latest Bios. Fired up fine on the first try with XMP enabled and it’s been fine. I am running 64gb (4 sticks) of 3600 DDR4 at 16 16 16 36. Next step is to see if I can get to 4000.
 
I had the same issue when I first booted up this system. On initial boot, I enabled XMP and and hit “ save and exit”. Nothing. Black screen. Tried a lot of things, including raising the memory voltage to 1.4. Still nothing. Finally I cleared CMOS, pulled the battery, then updated to the latest Bios. Fired up fine on the first try with XMP enabled and it’s been fine. I am running 64gb (4 sticks) of 3600 DDR4 at 16 16 16 36. Next step is to see if I can get to 4000.
Just removed battery, no success too
Is it new ram and you have you tested it on other systems? Given that you already boosted SA it does look like it will need to RMA'd.

I point this out because my 4400 kit previously wouldn't work at XMP timings, only recently after I pushed the SA up to 1.35v+ did the middle timings drop to what they should be.

Its 4400 19-19-19, I could only get it to boot at stock everything and XMP at 19-20-20 but previously only used a maximum of 1.3v SA. After boosting SA to 1.35-1.4, the middle timings dropped by 1, but I've only tested it at 4900 17-22-22 with the higher SA, before I was running 4533 15-23-23 and 4800 17-23-23 at under 1.3v SA.
Yes I use this RAM 4400CL16 on my 10900k without problem.
 
Guys I decided to return the mobo and buy Strix-A (since it's back in stock and Edge is no longer in stock, so they couldn't replace for me), do you think there is a chance the problem is my IMC somehow so garbage? Or probably the mobo itself? Best I could get was 2666Mhz nothing more...
 
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Guys I decided to return the mobo and buy Strix-A (since it's back in stock and Edge is no longer in stock, so they couldn't replace for me), do you think there is a chance the problem is my IMC somehow so garbage? Or probably the mobo itself? Best I could get was 2666Mhz nothing more...
It's probably the motherboard.
 
Guys I decided to return the mobo and buy Strix-A (since it's back in stock and Edge is no longer in stock, so they couldn't replace for me), do you think there is a chance the problem is my IMC somehow so garbage? Or probably the mobo itself? Best I could get was 2666Mhz nothing more...
Hope I have better luck with mine dang
 
I posted a review of the msi pro z790-p

 
I've started toying around with overclocking my 13700k today on my Z790 Edge. I'm trying to test out an OC of a x58 multiplier for one or two P cores loaded and x55 multiplier for 3-8 P cores loaded. However, when I run tests like Cinebench R23 single threaded, I see all 8 P cores clocking at 5.5 GHz. I see in HWinfo that the peak frequency is indeed 5.8 GHz, but it seems to never settle there even in lightly threaded tests.

Am I missing / misunderstanding something? I thought that if you set it to run at a higher clock for one or two P core loads, and then ran a single threaded test, you could expect to see the higher clock?
 
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I've started toying around with overclocking my 13700k today on my Z790 Edge. I'm trying to test out an OC of a x58 multiplier for one or two P cores loaded and x55 multiplier for 3-8 P cores loaded. However, when I run tests like Cinebench R23 single threaded, I see all 8 P cores clocking at 5.5 GHz. I see in HWinfo that the peak frequency is indeed 5.8 GHz, but it seems to never settle there even in lightly threaded tests.

Am I missing / misunderstanding something? I thought that if you set it to run at a higher clock for one or two P core loads, and then ran a single threaded test, you could expect to see the higher clock?
Set it to All-Core mode, and then Manual.
Set the P-Core Limit to 58x and then set all but 1-2 cores as 55x, and the strongest core as 58x.
Problem solved, so long as there is enough voltage.
 
I've started toying around with overclocking my 13700k today on my Z790 Edge.
How is the edge treating you? i wish price was more reasonable here but it's not.
 
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How is the edge treating you? i wish price was more reasonable here but it's not.
The prices of every Z790 board are pretty ridiculous right now, and the Z690 boards have not gone down in price from MSRP.
It's quite unfortunate.
 
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Z790 tomahawk DDR4 price has stayed low at the site I got it from for some reason.

ÂŁ325 I paid, since t hen its been ÂŁ329, and also the Pro A dropping to ÂŁ279.

Z690 Pro A regularly been on sale for ÂŁ189, that would have been fine for me but I want to attempt my crazy G2 suicide runs so had to get Z790.

If the ram dies meh, I have my DR 4200CL16 kit and can pick up DJR for cheap.

Hopefully 1.7v doesn't do anything on the new board still or I'm gonna go mega crazy and this poor rams gonna die.
 
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