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Introducing the Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti

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The GeForce® GTX 1080 Ti is NVIDIA's new flagship gaming GPU, based on the NVIDIA Pascal™ architecture. The latest addition to the ultimate gaming platform, this card is packed with extreme gaming horsepower, next-gen 11 Gbps GDDR5X memory, and a massive 11 GB frame buffer.



How To Flash A Different BIOS


BIOS's to flash.

Best BIOS Collection are the all the BIOS's I tested that give decent results. XOC is power limit free BIOS developed for L2N, still working on our FE's and other cards though.

Renamed by card they come from for clarification with power limit wattage of each one in the name.

View attachment BestBiosCollectionAndPowerLimitBatFiles.zip

Added the .bat files needed to run as Admin after each flash.


View attachment nvflash_5.370.0.zip

Unzip NVFlash to a folder.

Run an admin command prompt and cd to the folder you made.

Do in command prompt:

To turn protection off so you can flash the BIOS.

nvflash64 --protectoff

Then to backup original bios.

nvflash64 --save filename.rom

To flash bios.

nvflash64 -6 biosfilename.rom

If screen goes black just hit the 'y' key twice, it'll flash and screen will come back on.

Reboot, reinstall Nvidia driver, reboot again.

For more than one card.

nvflash64 --protectoff

Turn protection off. Choose the number of card you want to turn protection off, 0 or 1 for example with two GPUs.



To backup original BIOS.

nvflash64 --save filename.rom

nvflash64 --save filename2.rom


Choose the number of card you want to save the BIOS, 0 or 1 for example with two GPUs.


To flash BIOS.

nvflash64 --list

nvflash64 -6 --index=0 BIOSfilename.rom

nvflash64 -6 --index=1 BIOSfilename.rom


If screen goes black just hit the 'y' key twice for each flash, it'll flash and screen will come back on.

Important: Run the correct Powerlimt.bat file found in the BestBiosCollection.zip after you flash the BIOS and reboot to properly set the BIOS power limit voltage.


Important! Don't flash the HOF or MSI Lightning Z BIOS's or any BIOS that uses three power connectors.
They'll brick your card and unless you have a spare card or iGPU you won't be able to flash it back. Also two eight pin power connector Kingpin BIOS will brick your card.



If the video is poor quality showing right in overclock.net click on YouTube at the bottom of the video, much better quality watching right in YouTube.


I've found after flashing a BIOS or installing Nvidia drivers the max power limit is much lower than it should be and this is the fix.

Driver Uninstall Tool, (DDU) do this after flashing a BIOS, then reinstall the latest driver. Choose the Boot Into Safe Mode Option. You HAVE to know your login email or password, a four number pin won't work.

http://www.wagnardsoft.com/

You can find your max TDP in the official BIOS's link.[/I][/U][/B]

Link to XOC no power limit BIOS. You don't need to run the power limit .bat file with this BIOS.

http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=169488


Direct link To XOC BIOS from the forum post.

https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=...D9&id=FABF1EAAEEBFA9D9!154264&parId=FABF1EAAEEBFA9D9!148675&action=defaultclick


Afterburner

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/msi-afterburner-beta-download.html

Use below settings to unlock the voltage curve.

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Official BIOS's found on link below.

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios...chitecture=&manufacturer=&model=GTX+1080+Ti&interface=&memType=&memSize=&since=

Best Way To Do A Custom Voltage Curve. See short video for best explanation.
The link goes into a lot of detail on exactly the best way to get an overclock with little or no power limiting using a custom voltage curve.

Edit: I was testing power limiting with the Arctic Storm BIOS. I found at 2025 core, 6177 memory at .993v my card does zero power limiting in Fire Strike Ultra, Time Spy and Superposition 4K.

Also, it won't power limit on the Fire Strike Ultra stress test. Every BIOS I've tested so far seems this is true at .993v under water.

My temps on a 360 RAD with a highly overclocked 5960x and my 1080 Ti never go above 43C on the GPU at these settings.
But a lot of that is adding Fuji 17.0 W/mK thermal pads on the memory and VRMs and a few other key places.

Normally I run 2088 core, 6077 memory because I have a 4K G-Sync monitor and I cap games out at 59 FPS to keep G-Sync enabled and capped at 59 FPS it does no power limiting at 2088 at the highest graphics settings in games.

But if you run higher frame rates or have a 144Hz monitor and run it at cap you may want to consider your max clocks at .993v.

Under water is great and under air it will greatly reduce temps and thermal throttling you may encounter as well.


Also if you are getting 'Display driver has stopped responding' do below. It works for Windows 7 to Windows 10.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us...driver-stopped-responding-and-has-recovered-error-in-windows-7-or-windows-vista

Before you start running Heaven these settings in Nvidia control panel, it'll make your overclock more stable. Also in any game use Single Display Performance Mode and Prefer Max Performance, your games will be more stable with your overclock and have a more constant FPS.







Next you want to CTRL F in Afterburner, open the custom voltage curve, CTRL D to set it to defaults. Then you want to hold Shift, drag it to say +145 1999 core at 1050v and hit apply in Afterburner

It'll run around 1999 core at 1.062v in Afterburner in Heaven. Don't run Heaven though, drag the 1031v point up without holding Shift to the same as the 1050v point and hit apply.

If you do it right everything to the right of 1031v should be in a straight line.

Try lower voltages if you are on an air cooler and want to keep temps down, though you may need to start with lower clock speeds as well.

Keep your memory between +400 and +500 to start even if you can do more.

Crappy video I made how to actually do the custom voltage curve.
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It's how to do a 1.093v voltage curve, to do 1.031v you need it to look like the voltage curve picture farther down this guide.. Since I flashed the Strix BIOS on my FE I'm getting 2100 at 1.093v with no throttling.
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Open Heaven at a lower resolution than your screen resolution NOT in full-screen mode so you can still see Afterburner.

When you run Heaven if you get no driver crashes or screen freezing about three seconds and restarting that's good. Now raise the 1031v point with Heaven running one notch at a time to high core speeds like from +145 to +155 and hit apply, then between each time wait 30 seconds or so.

Keep doing this until the driver crashes or screen freezes three seconds and Heaven restarts. Close Heaven then drop in back down one notch, hit apply, and reboot. Your frame rate and stability will be compromised until you reboot.

Now do a full benchmark run with Heaven. If nothing crashes core is good. If driver crashes or screen freezes just drop it down one more notch. At 1.031v max core you can get you should get zero drops in voltages and core speed, should stay at 1.031v and the core it's at.

You can have GPU-Z running and logging to see your core does not drop during the run and be sure you had no driver crashes. If core and volts drop drastically a few seconds, then resumes, your driver crashed.

Ideally, this is what your final voltage curve should look like, but with the maximum core you determine by this method.
After you get best voltages with maximum clocks drag each point in your voltage curve without holding Shift until it looks similar to this.



After you get core stable run Heaven and hit Shift to pause it at a scene. It'll show the frame rate up top with screen paused. Stop it at a lower frame rate scene when the frame rate only fluctuates a few FPS while paused, usually a scene with no clouds or smoke or anything.

Now adjust your memory up/or down until you get the frame rate as high as it'll go with no driver crashes or artifacts. HIGHER ISN"T ALWAYS BETTER. I find at +642 is a few frames slower than +610.

Your frame rate may only be higher a few FPS at best memory speed but that's fine.

You have now found a low voltage best clock speed compromise for your water/air cooled 1080 Ti.
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Being obsessive about these things, I've found under water, no shunt mod, voltage slider maxed out, the trick is to find the best clock speeds you can obtain at the lowest possible voltages for sustained voltages and core speeds.
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If I run my core at +177 2062 at 1.031v I get a solid 1.031v and 2062 core on a full 1920x1080 Heaven run. This is the lowest I can go on voltages with zero driver crashes at +177 core.
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If you look at my GPU-Z log not once did I dip below 1.031v or 2062 core.
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View attachment GPU-ZSensorLog.txt


With 2093 core 1.093v it bounced up and down from 1.050v to 1.093v and in between, clock speeds changing as it does of course.
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So while you can brag about maximum clocks (I got 2100 benching) for every day 24/7 scenarios a balance between voltages and clock speed seems to be key.
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Hope this helps some. I'm reluctant to do the shunt mod as in my case my video card sits vertical and I'm not going to have the CLU run under my EK block and ruin my card.
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How To Maximise Your Memory Overclock. Thanks goes to @nrpeyton for suggesting OCCT.

Download OCCT 4.4.2 Portable here.

http://www.softpedia.com/get/PORTAB.../get/PORTABLE-SOFTWARE/Other-Portable-Applications/OCCT-Portable.shtml#download

Uzip the files and run OCCT. Go to the GPU:3D tab and run it using these settings.



If you get a User Cancelled error go into the Settings and put 'Hardware Monitoring' to 'None'.

Have Afterburner open on your second screen or if you only have one screen Alt Tab to it when you need to.

With OCCT GPU:3D running at those settings raise your memory +100 at a time, click your mouse back on the OCCT GPU:3D rendering window to put the focus back on it you after you adjust Afterburner and wait 30 seconds.

When you start getting errors drop it down -30 at a time until the errors stop, then run it at least two minutes.

Next open Heaven and run it. If Heaven stops responding and crashes lower your memory -30 at a time until the crashes stop. Then do a full benchmark. Profit!!

When it comes to memory I have an exceptional card and got +723 with this method with core at 2012 at .975v with zero power limiting in benches and games. My Heaven scored 4.5 frame rates higher and Superposition scored 100 points higher with the same 2012 core.

As well, in Power Option in Control Panel, put your Maximum Processor Frequency above what your max CPU speed is.

Put your Minimum Processor State at 100% for benching.

Also in PCI Express turn Link Power State Management Off.


My Nvidia Control Panel Settings (11208 Time Spy)



When benching it's better to adjust the settings in the Global settings, not per app as it can cause issues.
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A Shunt Mod Story By SlimJ87D
Unlocking the FE's true potential


After hitting power limits, I could not take it anymore. I knew that it was time for be to do the shunt mod. My card could bench at 2114 Mhz in heaven, and I believe it could go higher. After all, I've seen it boost to 2138 Mhz before without crashing.

I found it as a OC member, it was irresponsible for me to have so much potential thrown away. My theory was that I had a pretty nice golden card. That theory was proved to me today.

What I needed to prepare for

The shunt mod, if done right without too much CLU, will drop your 100% to 75-80%. This means that at 75%-80% you are drawing 300-310 Watts.This can be dangerous because at 120%, that is 450 Watts!

Because I set out to perform this shunt mod, I need to upgrade my cooling. My x41 was nearly at its limits. The liquid temperature was at 40C and my GPU temperatures stock was at 48C. If efficiency was 100%, then liquid and GPU temperatures would be equal according to newton's energy equation. Thus, I knew there was things I could do.

1. I could improve the TIM in between my shim and heat pump. Originally, I was planning to CLU the die and other side of the shim, but after looking online, CLU is really bad for dies from a RMA stand point, it leaves stains. So I decided to just use Gelid Extreme on the die and CLU on the shim and pump. Eureka, this got liquid temperatures from 40C to 44C, this means that more heat was being transferred to the radiator.

2. The midplate is a heatsink itself. It is connected to VRMs, VRAMs and other components. If I was going to introduce more watts to this card, I need to keep them cool. Originally I had placed 8 heatsinks on my midplate. This dropped my core temperature from 51C to 48C. Taking thermal measurements, the shims were at 36C. I knew that if I added more heatsinks, specially closer to the VRMs, it would help with the extra 50 to 75 Watts.

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3. Finally, the backplate was not absorbing any heat whatsoever. The aluminum plate is somewhat thin, my theory is that the plate was too thin to absorb heat from the GPU, it would cause warping and flexing. But using my engineering knowledge and deduction, I knew that my AIO was keeping my GPU at 48C, so 45-60C wouldn't harm the back plate at all. So I added a thermal pad in between the back of the GPU and the backplate.

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The shunt mod

For my shunt mod, I used CLU and liquid electrical tape.

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My results

My previous calculations were correct. From the shunt mod, running a light heaven, I was drawing 300-310 Watts at 75-80% power draw. That means at 100%, I would be drawing 400 Watts.

At max, my card was drawing 95-100%, which mean I was drawing 400 Watts. This is confirmed below!



Here are my thermal results

Stock at 300 Watts, 48C.

Shunt modded at 400 Watts, 50C

All my modifications have successfully fought off the incoming 100 Watts.

After some light benchmarks, I can easily hit 2152 Mhz @ 1.093v with no limiting.



I have decided to call it a day and spend time with my wife. I have not pushed this card to is maximum core clock yet.

With great power... comes great responsibility... Conclusion

This card is now drawing 100 extra watts, which is very dangerous. Because I do not want a $700 paper weight, my next step is to find a balance between my maximum core clock and voltage and try to limit my power draw to 350-375 Watts.

Do I recommend this mod?
To people on water, yes!

To people on AIO, maybe. You must take the extra steps I did to ward off that 100 Watts of extra heat that will be coming to your card.

To people on AIR, No. I do not recommend this mod to people on air. It can potentially be dangerous.

To people with partner cards. Maybe... you have to think about it, you're adding 33% more power and that can increase your temperatures by 33% as a rough estimate. It can be counter productive due to thermal throttling. And if you don't take extra pre-cautions to cool your card, it can blow up!
 

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#18,517 · (Edited)
welcome all
in the power limit adjustment file ( BAT )
I found something strange
The file extension in the BAT command was not correct. It has changed with the new updates for Nvidia
C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvidia-smi.exe (before the update. after the update I don't know)
Because of this I can't reach the maximum power in the BIOS (330), I'm stuck at less than 300 watts, this caused a drop in the core clock speed of 50 MHz
How to fix it ?
 
#18,518 ·
That's probably because Nvidia removed the nvidia-smi.exe tool from their drivers quite a long time ago, around spring 2021. It doesn't exist anymore. ME personally on my second computer (Where my 1080 Ti lives now) I just only use driver version 472.12 and I never update it. Nvidia hasn't included any fixes or performance enhancements in any of the newer drivers for 10-series cards for a long time either. The video cards are in the new drivers but the new drivers haven't done anything for us 1080 Ti owners in over a year. I don't see any reason to ever update the drivers for my 1080 Ti system. And it has nvidia-smi.exe included with this older driver version.
 
#18,521 ·
Hey guys - had a 1080ti for the last 2 years or so but never really looked into overclocking it much. I have it set to +150 on the core resulting in about a 2050MHz clock at all times under load (card is WC) and +200 on the memory. Is there generally more headroom on the memory? I never played with the voltage slider, would moving it around net me any more core speed? I actually just bought the better version of the Titan Xp to replace it with as I want to put the 1080ti in my bedroom PC to upgrade my 1080.
 
#18,522 ·
150 core and 200 mem is good. You might could do better on core but maybe not a lot. Memory is very sensitive and can cause weird stability issues so bump it sparingly.

Use MSI Afterburner regardless of your card's brand. Slide Power Limit and Temp limit to max. Set fans to max or at least use the default fan curve in Afterburner. Bump core a bit at a time until it fails testing while running Heaven 4.0 benchmark. Once it fails, back it down a bit and test stability. Use other benchmarks or real games to further test stability. Battlefield 4 is a good one to test stability with. Personally I left my memory on +200 and never tried to increase it further. But same thing again, bump it a bit while testing with Heaven, etc just like with core.
 
#18,524 ·
Hello everyone

1080 ti graphics cards
If the temperature is at 70 and i reduce it to 50 What is the expected core speed?


Note : that the speed is now at 2000 mhz
No one can tell you that because it's different for every single 1080 Ti. Silicon lottery with the core and all is different for each card. For example: I had a GTX 1080 Ti from EVGA, the EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC Black Edition that I put under a water block and I had it running around 35~38c when gaming and it would only ever overclock to 2126 Mhz on the core. But then a few years later I bought a NVIDIA Founders Edition GTX 1080 Ti and put the same water block on it and ran it at the same 35~38 C and it does 2177 Mhz stable on the core. I got lucky there and I sold my EVGA version.

So there's really no way for anyone to predict what your card will overclock to. You'll just have to cool it and try it and see what happens. You will probably also be limited by the card's power limit too at some point so that will effect things too.
 
#18,527 ·
I already use air cooling. and when using water cooling or hybrid i expect the temperature to drop from the current degree from 70 to 50 or more with the change of the cooling system
So I'm asking about the performance gain, if there is 100MHz or more on core clock , that might motivate me to change the cooling system

Note that I have the card now:

MSI GTX 1080 Ti GAMING X
2000 core clock
6200 memory clock
65-70 temperature loads



 
#18,528 ·
So I'm asking about the performance gain, if there is 100MHz or more on core clock , that might motivate me to change the cooling system

Note that I have the card now:

MSI GTX 1080 Ti GAMING X
2000 core clock
6200 memory clock
65-70 temperature loads
I know this isn't what you're wanting to hear but really there just isn't much way to tell. You might see 2100 Mhz stable with 50c. Or you might only get +20 Mhz more. It depends on a lot of different factors and isn't really predictable.
 
#18,532 · (Edited)
I can't find a way to search only this thread, so apologies as I assume this has been answered.

I have 2 Founder's Edition direct from NVIDIA, and it looks like the hardware ID isn't listed in the MSIAfterburner.oem2 file. Also the voltage slider doesn't seem to do anything. Or not reliably... Automatic overclock runs fail as unstable or bluescreen, and GPU-Z typically mentions Vrel as the reason for perfcap though sometimes Power (set to 120% already) depending on how I stress things (Kombustor vs. OCCT vs. Heaven vs...).

Am I correct that I must add the matching hardware ID value at the bottom and select "3rd party" for voltage control method? That was mentioned in a thread from 2019. The 3rd party setting feels wrong as this is a reference board, but...this isn't the first time I've had to work around software oddities.

I've selected a range of entries for the voltage selection method setting (reference, standard, extended, 3rd party), but haven't moved the slider after each of them. I kept assuming the program would tell me if something worked or didn't. And most help information made it sound like reference boards should be supported under any of those settings.

Another question is how to know if the fan controller accepts custom firmware curve values (to make the fan speed changes survive not having AB running). I mean other than testing it with a benchmark and GPU-Z's monitor, or some other program.

(update) Maybe the voltage issue is more about my default voltage being 1.042 usually. Even with the voltage slider at 0. After doing the suggestions above I could use voltage slider at 100, and it'd run my card up to 1.093 like expected (hitting the limit from NVIDIA).

There is a lot here that confused me...The % on the voltage label "Core (%)", the posts about 1.0V being the stock voltage and me not seeing that on an NVIDIA FE, and the current value not seeming to go up when I'd move the slider (guessing it was heat throttled before I changed the setting in app).
 
#18,533 ·
Another question is how to know if the fan controller accepts custom firmware curve values (to make the fan speed changes survive not having AB running). I mean other than testing it with a benchmark and GPU-Z's monitor, or some other program.
I don't know about the rest of your comments but I do know how to answer this one: No. We can not put a custom firmware on the 10 series Nvidia cards. We can not edit the bios/firmware for these cards and create custom firmware. It's not possible. All these years later and no one ever cracked the encryption on the bios's and released custom firmware editor programs like the previous cards.

Also I experimented with a pair of 1080 Ti's around spring 2022 and determined it's completely pointless, at least on my current AMD X570 platform. It would probably work with one of the HEDT platforms that can run dual-16x-16x on both cards. But even then all of the games released in the past 5 years don't support SLI anyway and Nvidia's latest drivers dropped support for it (They aren't creating new SLI profiles at all). It would of been advisable for you to sell your second 1080 Ti earlier this year when they were going for $700, but as of right now I would suggest at least you remove one from your system and go single card. In my X570 system I saw literally zero gains in FPS with SLI on or off, even in older SLI-supported titles and even with older drivers, at least not at 1080p. SLI doesn't work and doesn't do anything anymore unless you're trying to play at 4K. I used Nvidia DSR and ran 4K on my 1080p monitor and saw gains with a second card of about +30%, even that's not worth the extra power usage, heat, and complexity. It's not even worth trying to sell your second card any more as used 1080 Ti's are down to $250 now which is almost pointless to even sell one.
 
#18,536 ·
So I'm currently fighting with a Zotac AMP Extreme 1080ti. It's a second hand card and was planning on using it just till new cards release. It's been a headache, the card is extremely unstable at factory clocks out of the box. With sometimes needing to be -70 or more on the core, I'm not entirely sure what I'm fighting with I notice power draw is fairly low according to software monitoring (230-250w max) compared to my still working GTX 1080 Strix (280-300w). I wonder if I'm running to an issue with the bios or if it's cause I'm still running a daisy chain style PCI-E power.

Recent 3dmark Fire strike scores between 1080 vs 1080ti:
1080ti AMP Extreme: I scored 28 590 in Fire Strike
1080 Strix: I scored 22 497 in Fire Strike
 
#18,537 ·
(280-300w). I wonder if I'm running to an issue with the bios or if it's cause I'm still running a daisy chain style PCI-E power.
That could be it. I had some issues with my 1080 Ti for a while and the issues went away when I changed it from a single cable with 2 x 6+2 plugs on the end to two physical 6+2 cables from the power supply. Try that.
 
#18,541 ·
Isn't there a way to see if the card is throttling because of temperature or power? I'd go searching for that value when you stress the card. I only saw it once and I have a bunch of different programs so can't immediately point at one (GPU-z or MSI Afterburner are my guesses). MSI Afterburner is a handy program either way. My fan curve wasn't as aggressive as I'd like. And you can increase a few limits to get some "free" perf increases if you get this to run stably.

Have you cleaned it well? It might be overheating too fast if there is a blockage of airflow somewhere. I've got the FE so there was a plastic cover you could remove to clean out dust from. I assume aftermarket cards don't, and you'd just need to liberally spray canned air from all angles until nothing comes off. Maybe verify the fans spin easily (check by pushing them to see if they're gritty or stuck) and that they run well when powered up (look up with a flashlight? Or trust a software fan speed measure?).

Apparently thermal paste can dry up, or even get pumped out. Just watched a video about this, and how they improve thermal solutions between product versions. Gamer's Nexus I think is the group. They chatted with Michael Gutenberg or something.

NVIDIA said their dies are convex, but change to flat when they heat up to operating temps... And that can cause a pumping motion over a few hundred sessions, depending on the viscosity of the TIM (Thermal Interface Material). The fix would be to clean off then replace the paste. Think I read they need a lot more paste for GPU's (versus the "grain of rice" many people expect for CPU's). I know there are disassembly videos for a variety of cards, but you might have to just wing it.

Which isn't impossible if you're slow and methodical (make a map where screws came from), but especially with older cards the thermal pads might tear when you remove the heatsink. I've read that torn pads can still work, especially since this is just to carry you for a few months. Or you can buy replacements, but they have different thicknesses you'd have to match. The wrong thickness wouldn't touch (no heat conducting) or cause the heatsink to be not level (again not touching elsewhere and no heat conducting).

I'd hope since the power supply was fine with a 1080 that a 1080 ti wouldn't be much worse (need lots more power). Which supply do you have out of curiosity?
 
#18,542 ·
I forgot about that. When is the last time that used 1080 Ti was re-pasted? If your high school friend never did it and you haven't done it then it's way past time. That should be done at least once every 2 years max and the 1080 Ti's came out 5 years ago at this point. It could have 5 year old thermal paste in it.
 
#18,543 ·
Hey folks,

I have a small issue with a Zotac GTX 1080 Ti AMP edition ( 2 fan version ), where the Freeze Stop feature does not work as intended. ie. when the card is at idle / sitting below 50c which I think is the threshold where the fans kick in. Many of the newer cards have this feature, but for some reason, the fans spin from the moment the PC is started with this card.

The fans seem to function correctly responding the the fan curve, hotter the card gets, the faster the fans ramp up, but they never come to a full stop even when say the temps are well below 40c.

Incidently, both MSI Afterbuner & GPU-Z, both show the fans at 0% when the temps are say below 45c, but the fans are still spinning, at what seems a low RPM speed.

I have also tried changing the "Power Management" setting from Optimal to Adaptive in the NVidia Control Panel, which did nothing. I have the latest NVidia drivers installed.

Any ideas would be much appreciated.