[Rena Ryugu]

Intel said that it's getting up to 20% higher fps with the latest microcode and bios update, but some reviewers said the update only brought worse performance in games. So, what's the truth?

 

[umeng2002]

I seriously doubt it's getting any better.

 

[newls1]

I was really hoping this gen intel would have been a good upgrade but its not looking good at all. Ill stay 14th Gen until next year I guess

 

[jamesch]

If you actually looked at the Hallock video with the original slides from November, the majority of the promised performance gains came in the form of microcode updates to fix the fact that High Performance and Balanced power modes weren't giving the same performance. Most reviewers already caught wind of this during launch day and ran their benchmarks under High Performance Mode, so what you saw on launch day from reviewers where Arrow Lake was performing better was already 98% of the potential of Arrow Lake.

The rest of the updates were either random edge cases or only promising an overall performance gain of single digits. Which it looks like has already occurred, about 3% performance improvement across the board. This is pretty much all we are getting.

 

[Alexandrus]

And the title for the topic most unsuited for OCN goes to...

 

[Quad Damage]

I was ready to upgrade and with the 13th-14th gen microcode issues and the Core Ultra shenanigans, I decided to switch to AMD this time. I was REALLY interested in Core Ultra. I'm a little biased towards Intel. It seems like they are struggling these days. Its still not a terrible showing, but its counter-intuitive to choose a new platform that runs slower than ther previous one. Also, Gamer's Nexus opinion was that the Ultras were unstable at launch and Intel knew it. It just made me re-consider. My last AMD was the Athlon 64-3400+ Clawhammer with 1Mo cache ! Techpowerup's and Kitguru's GPU test benchs for 2025 are on 9800X3d/X870E. I assume many more sites will test the new GPUS with 9800X3D this year.

 

[Section31]

Another skip generation. Not much interest in jumping from alderlake 12900K.

 

[losttsol]

Especially because it looks like there won't even be a refresh for Core Ultra 200. Just a single release on a single socket that will change with Nova Lake. I will stay on Z790 for the next 3 or 4 years I think. Just upgrade my CPU when the prices come down a little further.

 

[kairi_zeroblade]

some of the performance increase you are looking for is being brought by using the Intel APO app, without it (not necessarily) there is a performance loss somewhere, if you're on a potent platform already this might be a perfect time to get mature memory (DDR5)..or just spend on a GPU upgrade if you game..if you still want to irresponsibly spend that money, you can try AMD's latest X3D offering if that would excite you.

 

[Travis Scott]

I highly doubt it, what a bizarre launch

 

[someperson12345]

I've only tested Cyberpunk (I don't have APO installed) and my 265K w/ CUDIMM 8400-CL40 is beating my 12700K at low quality, 1920x1080 by almost 50%. With fast memory and some tweaking I don't think it sucks as bad as they say.