Hiko is dead to me after leaving Cloud9 anyway. He can choke to death on a Cheeto or be killed my DazeD in a fit of rage for all I care now.

And I'm sorry to break this too you, but Shoxie is NOT thought of as one of the absolute top tier aimers. He's still very high up there, like the next tier or two down, the same goes for this spraying and AWPing. But it's his game sense (which had a lot to do with how he played his role on his team) that was pushing him over the top for awhile. That and he tends to pre-aim his peaks more than almost any CS:GO pro I can remember (as opposed to aiming at the edge of a corner and adjusting aim around it during the peaking movement, eventually ending up with you aim at the spot where a pre-aimer would be lined up for), so when his game sense and aim are clicking, he's an absolute monster. I think he's fallen off slightly, at least for the time being, because of how his role differs now in LDLC.

For the record, my 'top tier' of pro aimers would be ScreaM, dupreeh, device, Shroud, and n0thing.

All three NiP players mentioned are right around 3-3.5 sens which I still consider on the high end for higher-level competitive play. And yes f0rest is still FREQUENTLY mentioned as having one of the best controls over spray even if he is not a habitual sprayer like friberg. And friberg is the best sprayer in entry-kill situations, which tend to rely on the element of surprise or reaction time in more close to medium types of ranges, but he doesn't control it at distance or at the end of a clip nearly as well as GeT_RighT.

 

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And I'm sorry to break this too you, but Shoxie is NOT thought of as one of the absolute top tier aimers.
But it's his game sense that was pushing him over the top for awhile.

Top kek. That's why he was considered as best source player of the year 3 times and as a best rifler 2 years in a row.
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For the record, my 'top tier' of pro aimers would be ScreaM, dupreeh, device, Shroud, and n0thing.

Shroud? What a joke. ScreaM is the best without doubt. But there are much more 'top tier' aimers which are not which are not worse than dupreeh or device. For example: cajunb, friberg, f0rest, olofm, allu, flusha, flamie, apex, edward, dosia, kioshima and this list is not complete. Every top team consist of players with good aim and some of them are outstanding.
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All three NiP players mentioned are right around 3-3.5 sens which I still consider on the high end for higher-level competitive play.

Friberg's sens is 2.2. GTR's is 2.9. Sensitivity from 2 to 3 is pretty standard for CS.
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And yes f0rest is still FREQUENTLY mentioned as having one of the best controls over spray even

Give me two or three examples of those 'FREQUENT' mentions please. I have no doubts in his spray-skill but he almost never sprays.

 

(ง ͠° ͟ل͜ ͡°)ง Fite me at LAN bro (ง ͠° ͟ل͜ ͡°)ง

Most of the players you added would be on the 2nd or 3rd tier for me, where you would also fine Shoxie. Don't be so salty m8, just because he's not tier 1 aimer doesn't mean he's not a tier 1 rifler. And one strong disagreement I have from your list. flusha as a top 10 aimer. Omg. flusha. K den...

And I'm seeing people list Friberg as 2.8 sens so maybe's he's changed to 2.2 since then. I hardly care enough to bother looking it up on his official site to be honest.

Re: 'FREQUENT': I've heard both Semmler and Anders say this multiple times. I remember one time specifically Semmler saying how other pros held up f0rest's spray and rifle control as the gold standard during the early days of CS:GO (this is before my CS'ing time however, so I can neither confirm or deny such sentiments). As in he kinda shaped the early art of pro rifling technique as everyone was switching from 1.6 and Source to CS:GO.

 

Top aimers and you srsly mentioned flusha .......

 

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Most of the players you added would be on the 2nd or 3rd tier for me

For you. That's it.
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he's not tier 1 aimer doesn't mean he's not a tier 1 rifler.

Oxymoron.
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And one strong disagreement I have from your list. flusha as a top 10 aimer. Omg. flusha.

This list is not in right order. Just top players came to my mind at that moment. And what's the problem with him being top10? He's at least close to it.
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And I'm seeing people list Friberg as 2.8 sens so maybe's he's changed to 2.2 since then.

Nope. He had it since the start of CSGO.
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Re: 'FREQUENT': I've heard both Semmler and Anders say this multiple times.

Right. As if Semmler and Anders has game knowledge.

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Top aimers and you srsly mentioned flusha .......

Are you some of those reddit kids that accusing him in cheating?

 

I don't even really care if he did/does cheat, his aim just really isn't all that special. It's not that bad either.... he's just a strange person to appear on such a list.

I can't be bothered to go point by point with you anymore. Let's just agree that I'm right and move on pls

 

Good rifler and good aimer is not the same, just sayin.
I won't start a discussion about flusha in here, too much offtopic already.
But thanks for the accusation of being a reddit kid or whatever you said earlier with that drunken mind.

 

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Recoil control...? A mouse...?

You realize these are imaginary guns, right?

>Location: C:\Program Files (x86)\Origin Games\Battlefield 4\bf4.exe

You realize you cant live inside a game "yet", right?