http://www.overclock.net/t/854100/gaming-mouse-sensor-list

 

Do NOT get the V2/V3 unless you don't care about god awful click delay, if you don't care about god awful click delay then get the V3 because it has the best sensor of the bunch, if you want the best "all rounder" and don't mind acceleration/prediction then the V1 is okay.

 

Can't you just replace the switches on the V2?

 

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Originally Posted by Yihaw

Can't you just replace the switches on the V2?

Click delay is firmware added and has nothing to do with hardware.

 

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Originally Posted by Yihaw

Can't you just replace the switches on the V2?

To reduce the button lag you have to reprogram MCU, not replace switches. Debounce algorithms are part of firmware.

 

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Originally Posted by Alya

Click delay is firmware added and has nothing to do with hardware.

Where can you even get V1s? I looked a while back, but I had no luck,

 

There is so many mice on the market today, why insisting on choosing a Kinzu ? I don't understand.

 

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There is so many mice on the market today, why insisting on choosing a Kinzu ? I don't understand.

Any mice with the same shape? I don't think there are.

 

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Any mice with the same shape? I don't think there are.

There are no exact clones or anything like that, but there quite a few mice that are somewhat similar. Rival 100, Azio Exo1, and some others look like they are in the same vein. There are some random OEM mice as well. I particularly remember one that looked like a kana clone, but was more kinzu sized. I'm sure people who are crazy about the kinzu shape would tell you there are a bunch of things different about those, but then again lots of people go insane over the slightest differences in shape.

 

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Where can you even get V1s? I looked a while back, but I had no luck,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SteelSeries-Kinzu-Optical-Gaming-Mouse-Black-62011-/302322101668

Let's be clear about this for the moderators, this is not me, this is not anyone I know, I am not advertising, I have bought many from this seller, they are Kinzu V1s, they are in retail box.
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Any mice with the same shape? I don't think there are.

Nope, only other mouse I've enjoyed shape wise (though less than) as the Kinzu was the G100s, and mine had horrible buttons, mushy and stiff, absolutely zero feedback.

 

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Originally Posted by Alya

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SteelSeries-Kinzu-Optical-Gaming-Mouse-Black-62011-/302322101668

Let's be clear about this for the moderators, this is not me, this is not anyone I know, I am not advertising, I have bought many from this seller, they are Kinzu V1s, they are in retail box.
Nope, only other mouse I've enjoyed shape wise (though less than) as the Kinzu was the G100s, and mine had horrible buttons, mushy and stiff, absolutely zero feedback.

I recall seeing some sort of chinese kinzu clone on Newegg a couple months ago.

 

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Originally Posted by Shogoki

There is so many mice on the market today, why insisting on choosing a Kinzu ? I don't understand.

I'm looking for a mouse of that general size/shape. I currently use a G100s and I love how light and small it is so I want to try something different. Do you have any other suggestions?
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Originally Posted by Alya

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SteelSeries-Kinzu-Optical-Gaming-Mouse-Black-62011-/302322101668

Let's be clear about this for the moderators, this is not me, this is not anyone I know, I am not advertising, I have bought many from this seller, they are Kinzu V1s, they are in retail box.

I was actually looking here too and saw that, but if you go down to the description it says Kinzu V3.. So I guess Kinzu V1 is out of the question unless I can find another.
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Nope, only other mouse I've enjoyed shape wise (though less than) as the Kinzu was the G100s, and mine had horrible buttons, mushy and stiff, absolutely zero feedback.

Yeah that's actually my main problem with the G100s but in a different way. The switches feel fine when I'm just browsing or playing a random game but when I get on Counter-Strike and try to tap fire, I have to control my clicking finger more than usual or else it will burst a couple bullets instead of shooting one at a time. I've actually gotten used to it but it's still a little annoying.

 

If you like the G100s shape to a degree you might as well try the G102 or the Gpro depending on how hard the price has cratered. Its heavier than it probably should be, but the clicks are better than the G100s

(I'll take inconsistant over consistantly bad, but truth be told I hacked up my Gpro and shoved its guts into an old Logitech M-S69... it works but I still need to drill holes and get some small pegs for the side buttons to work. Funny enough it actually has seperate buttons for the clicks, and the clicks were decent pre dremal and fun)

 

I want something small and very light like the G100s but I don't want the G203/GPro because I want to try something completely new (and something lighter would be nice) . I use claw grip with 18/9 cm hands. One mouse I was looking at was the TT esports Ventus R which looked like a good shape/size/weight.

 

Something new is interesting, but only when it doesn't mean buying a mouse roughly the same age as the one you have now, only universally agreed to be worse

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All that said the new rival refresh might be interesting, but I'd look into the Kone Pure Owl Eye, and or buy a G102/G203 on the cheap just for the heck of it (unique sensor and the shell is very different from the G100s though not really great) I really liked the G100s, but as I stated I now have a new abomination to use when side buttons are optional, and a G403 for everything else (because I'm boring)

 

Well I'm not really picky when it comes to sensors. I can still play with the MLT04 on low sens and be fine. I just don't want a complete trash office mouse or something, I want some semblance of quality.

 

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I want something small and very light like the G100s but I don't want the G203/GPro because I want to try something completely new (and something lighter would be nice) . I use claw grip with 18/9 cm hands. One mouse I was looking at was the TT esports Ventus R which looked like a good shape/size/weight.

Theres the zalman/n-mouse m600r as well, I believe it uses a 3090.

 

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Originally Posted by Rayndalf

If you like the G100s shape to a degree you might as well try the G102 or the Gpro depending on how hard the price has cratered. Its heavier than it probably should be, but the clicks are better than the G100s

(I'll take inconsistant over consistantly bad, but truth be told I hacked up my Gpro and shoved its guts into an old Logitech M-S69... it works but I still need to drill holes and get some small pegs for the side buttons to work. Funny enough it actually has seperate buttons for the clicks, and the clicks were decent pre dremal and fun)

post up your modded mouse when you get it done.

 

At this point its basically just a reshell, the scroll wheel looks real clean, but think the LOD is a problem (used it on a crappy (not flat) desk and the cursor would occasionally wander a bit is CS:GO). I probably won't botch the sleekness adding side buttons, so I'll take some decent pics and post it up later today (and learn how much of the Gpro PCB can be excised and still mostly function)

 

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Originally Posted by s0rry

I want some semblance of quality.

Forget about it with any Kinzu.

 

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Originally Posted by Rayndalf

At this point its basically just a reshell, the scroll wheel looks real clean, but think the LOD is a problem (used it on a crappy (not flat) desk and the cursor would occasionally wander a bit is CS:GO). I probably won't botch the sleekness adding side buttons, so I'll take some decent pics and post it up later today (and learn how much of the Gpro PCB can be excised and still mostly function)

that's hard to get right though you can compensate for bad LOD with different mousepads. I recommend a reflective metal pad for a mouse that's consistently troublesome.

 

Do the DM1 Pro S's guts fit into the kinzu shell?

*edit* And or kana?

 

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Do the DM1 Pro S's guts fit into the kinzu shell?

*edit* And or kana?

The Revel's does (for the Kinzu). Assuming they're about the same size, yeah. Might need a bit of modding, though.

 

What about the ikari?

 

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Originally Posted by s0rry

I was actually looking here too and saw that, but if you go down to the description it says Kinzu V3.. So I guess Kinzu V1 is out of the question unless I can find another.

nah it's a v1, got mine from that exact seller.