Good thing I started saving up for this card a while back..

 

It's weird though on some review sites the 4870 X2 does not blow the 280GTX out of the water and even sometimes the 280GTX beats it by little but on other reviews the 4870 X2 just blows away the 280GTX. Example: Check Crysis http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon...w-crossfire/12 and http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...md,1992-5.html

I smell some biased reviews....

 

Oh you didn't know Guru3d are nvidia luvrs?

 

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Originally Posted by Shadow_UGZ It's weird though on some review sites the 4870 X2 does not blow the 280GTX out of the water and even sometimes the 280GTX beats it by little but on other reviews the 4870 X2 just blows away the 280GTX. Example: Check Crysis http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon...w-crossfire/12 and http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...md,1992-5.html I smell some biased reviews....

I believe Crysis was made or optimized for nvidia cards so any Crysis benchmark nvidia will have the lead. But if you take some other games benches I think the 4870 x2 wins most if not all.

 

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Originally Posted by TnB= Gir Oh you didn't know Guru3d are nvidia luvrs?

Huh they had the 4870x2 beating the 280GTX in ever benchmark except Crysis and GRAW2

 

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Originally Posted by Sistum Id I believe Crysis was made or optimized for nvidia cards so any Crysis benchmark nvidia will have the lead. But if you take some other games benches I think the 4870 x2 wins most if not all.

I know Crysis was optmized for nVidia but in the Tom's HW review the 4870 x2 beats the 280GTX while other reviews show the opposite.

 

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Originally Posted by TnB= Gir Oh you didn't know Guru3d are nvidia luvrs?

After reading their RV770 reviews i wouldn't say that for sure.

 

Since I only play at 1680x1050 the 4870 will suit me just fine for quite a long time. I highly doubt any game in the near future will bring that card to it's knees so I'm probably going to sit this high-end series out. Hopefully when the next one comes out there will be a need for it so I can use that as an excuse to get one

 

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Originally Posted by Shadow_UGZ I know Crysis was optmized for nVidia but in the Tom's HW review the 4870 x2 beats the 280GTX while other reviews show the opposite.

That's because of newer drivers.

Well, the 4870 X2 is close enough to the performance of the GTX 280 that I will not regret going with the GTX 280, since I trust nVidia more. The GTX 280+ will surely do great against the 4870 X2 if this review is accurate in showing what the 4870 X2 has to offer vs the GTX 280.

I'm with you all the way Green Team. Soldier on!

 

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Originally Posted by sgtdisturbed47 That's because of newer drivers. Well, the 4870 X2 is close enough to the performance of the GTX 280 that I will not regret going with the GTX 280, since I trust nVidia more. The GTX 280+ will surely do great against the 4870 X2 if this review is accurate in showing what the 4870 X2 has to offer vs the GTX 280. I'm with you all the way Green Team. Soldier on!

Me 2! but I think ATI has done an amazing job this round and has clearly taken the performance crown.

 

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Originally Posted by Sistum Id I believe Crysis was made or optimized for nvidia cards so any Crysis benchmark nvidia will have the lead. But if you take some other games benches I think the 4870 x2 wins most if not all.

In that case, how powerful must HD4870X2 be?

 

Very nice work ATI. However i see some flaws in this...my 8800GT does 110fps in GRID at 1680x1050

 

just wait until Cat 8.8's (i almost feel bad about getting a second 4870.....my upgrade path has hit a wall, lol)

at least aftermarket cooling and overclocking 2 separate cards will be easier

 

Been saving for an upgrade for a while myself. I've had nvidia cards for some time now, I was going to get a gtx280, but this ati card is top class for an upgrade. I don't think the rumors going around that nvidia chips are failing are helping nvidia much as far as competing.

 

Considering a 280GTX is only $400 now, I'm glad ATI is back!

 

are there any reviews of 2 4870X2s vs tri sli 280s?

 

I'm pretty sure Guru3D are nvidia "lovers". Just check the conclusion of their review, where they talk about how they prefer single gpus over dual gpu solutions, and come up with what I would consider, shaky reasons against it.

 

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Originally Posted by Shadow_UGZ It's weird though on some review sites the 4870 X2 does not blow the 280GTX out of the water and even sometimes the 280GTX beats it by little but on other reviews the 4870 X2 just blows away the 280GTX. Example: Check Crysis http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon...w-crossfire/12 and http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...md,1992-5.html I smell some biased reviews....

I believe the guru3D review did Crysis at medium settings, while Toms had it at "max detail."

 

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Originally Posted by Greg121986 I believe the guru3D review did Crysis at medium settings, while Toms had it at "max detail."

Yea, I went through guru3D's last night and saw that. Why the hell would you bench the new ultra-high end cards on medium???

 

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Originally Posted by Lxcivic2k1 Yea, I went through guru3D's last night and saw that. Why the hell would you bench the new ultra-high end cards on medium???

also i belive the test bed is a bit different and so are the drivers...

 

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Originally Posted by Lxcivic2k1 Yea, I went through guru3D's last night and saw that. Why the hell would you bench the new ultra-high end cards on medium???

Ah that could be it

Well at least the war is on!!! and this means prices will lower and nVidia will come out with a new solution to beat ATI. Competition FTW!!!

 

Ha ha, amazing. A dual-GPU card has trouble with keeping up with a single GPU card.

Although, you can see that in all the 30" screen benchmarks the 4870x2 does win. But most people don't have screens that size.

Although, they did no 22" benchmarks, which is a common monitor size, why on earth they did 23" is beyond me.

Still, with the huge price drop in the GTX280, ATI will struggle to keep this priced lower than that, and if they launch it at a higher price, the GTX 280 will still be the best choice for people running 24" or less displays.

 

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Originally Posted by Semper Fidelis Ha ha, amazing. A dual-GPU card has trouble with keeping up with a single GPU card. Although, you can see that in all the 30" screen benchmarks the 4870x2 does win. But most people don't have screens that size. Although, they did no 22" benchmarks, which is a common monitor size, why on earth they did 23" is beyond me. Still, with the huge price drop in the GTX280, ATI will struggle to keep this priced lower than that, and if they launch it at a higher price, the GTX 280 will still be the best choice for people running 24" or less displays.

Did you even read the article? Its on average 25% faster and tops out at over 50%. Why would someone buy this card if they didn't have a 30" screen. ATI shouldn't have a big problem dropping the price. The biggest limiting factor would be the price of GDDR5. Also considering the price of the 4870 some may consider that a better buy bang for buck.
Heres an Hexus.net review.

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Our performance evaluation shows that the HD 4870 X2 only comes into its own when the resolution is cranked up to 2,560x1,600, along with serious image quality; anything lower and it's sat there, twiddling bemused transistors. Such is the performance lead at the WQXGA setting, that it's over 60 per cent faster than the previous champ, GeForce GTX 280, in both Race Driver: GRID and Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare. A 50 per cent lead in Company of Heroes: Opposing Fronts and 30 per cent advantage in Enemy Territory: Quake Wars is nothing to sniff at either.

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.ph...=14928&page=14

 

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Originally Posted by Somenoob Did you even read the article? Its on average 25% faster and tops out at over 50%. Why would someone buy this card if they didn't have a 30" screen. ATI shouldn't have a big problem dropping the price. The biggest limiting factor would be the price of GDDR5. Also considering the price of the 4870 some may consider that a better buy bang for buck. Heres an Hexus.net review. http://www.hexus.net/content/item.ph...=14928&page=14

I looked at the charts, and it seemed that the GTX280 was faster at lower resolutions, but at higher resolutions... like 24" and up the 4870x2 would win.

I have a 22" monitor, so if this comes out and is over $450 then I will probably end up getting the GTX280.

 

I'm pretty sure the benchmarks in a lot of these reviews are CPU limited up to the higher resolutions.

Look at what hardwarecanucks.com got with their quad at 3.85GHz compared to everyone else using CPUs around the 3GHz range.

This review should be interesting given the 4GHz clock on the CPU