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#201 ·
I have now tried to do the Sapphire 5750 within windows 10. 3 different computers, and at least I get this on 2 of the 3. The other one I cant select the IGD and boot into windows 10. Its an old Q8300 so oh well.



I get this program has stopped responding, and this is the output.

Not sure other than doing the DOS and ATIFLASH option.
But I feel like I should be able to do this in windows 10 command prompt running as administrator.

Any help would be amazing.
 
#202 ·
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Originally Posted by gohaun View Post

I have now tried to do the Sapphire 5750 within windows 10. 3 different computers, and at least I get this on 2 of the 3. The other one I cant select the IGD and boot into windows 10. Its an old Q8300 so oh well.



I get this program has stopped responding, and this is the output.

Not sure other than doing the DOS and ATIFLASH option.
But I feel like I should be able to do this in windows 10 command prompt running as administrator.

Any help would be amazing.
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It looks like it's completing correctly both times I think?
 
#206 ·
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Originally Posted by kithylin View Post

Did it work out for you?
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That would be a no. I tried both of the DVI outputs. I hear the chime waited about 2 minutes and still no image.
I guess ill see if I can do the ms dos option now this weekend.

EDIT: I made a freedos bootable usb drive and dropped the folder into that usb. I cant run the program in DOS.
Welp back to the drawing board.

Note: I am still able to use it in windows without an issue as far as I can tell.
 
#207 ·
Hello. I'm getting this error

EDITED : This is when I do the method posted here, Nothing happens.

I get this error when I try opening ATIWinFlash

When I flashed the rom it booted into windows normally. No black screens no nothing but its recognised as a generic driver.
AIDA64

When I try opening catalyst

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
#208 ·
Hi, I have 8 XFX AMD Radeon RX580s, two Crimson and six White. They have been nothing but problems. As in this thread and the youtube video posted below, all over the internet there are resources showing how overclocking can result in 27-30 Mh/s mining rates with these GPUs. However, I have not seen anyone report consistent results after long periods of mining. In my hands, I can achieve stable mining for a few days to a week. However, I am currently left with 6 "bricked" cards. First, each showed strange, inconsistent operation. For instance, the computer would crash, with some of the cards left with LEDs on and fans spinning, others completely lights out as would be expected with the motherboard off. In another case, the card would run but the fans would not, so the card would start at a a high speed, then quickly drop to zero because I limited the temp to 71C. In each case, I would switch the bios back to the stock position. Sometimes this worked, sometimes not. When I was able to still recognize the card in the stock bios switch position, I would flip the switch back to the position I switch the bios and re-flash with the saved stock bios. After confirming the card was stable with the re-flashed stock bios, I tried re-flashing the modded bios (eg what it shown in this video using Polaris Bios Editor and ATIwinflash). Once again, I would get good operation for a while.. But ultimately, I am now left with 6 bricked cards unable to mine, the hardness for ether is doubled, the price of ether is half, and I've wasted over 100 hours troubleshooting and stuck with a three thousand dollar credit card bill. After over a month, I've earned only 1.4 ethereum.

The whole endeavor has been a lesson in the pain of noobery and why not to do projects outside of my wheelhouse. I knew there was a risk in the volatility of the currency, but had no idea how fringy the mining technology is. Running 6 or more overclocked GPUs is presented as legitimate, but in reality it appear we are pushing these machines to beyond what they are designed to do. Thus, there is a huge risk that the calculated ROI on paper will unlikely become reality.

Ultimately, I realize that my personal experience is a "one off", but the whole endeavor is unscientific because everything we find on the internet is self-reported and there is rarely follow up from users over the long term with users who report "success" after finally getting a system running, as I did, with a modded bios.

A review of how terrible these particular RX580's are:
 
#209 ·
Here are the details:

Steps taken to mod bios (this worked fine with the Sapphire RX580):
1) Open GPU-Z and look at the memory type, make sure it's Hynix.
2) Open ATI Win Flash (right-click, open as Administrator), and save the original BIOS.
3) Power down computer, flip the super tiny little switch next to the power cables towards the ports on the back (i.e., towards the HDMI), power up computer. I also opened Claymore's here, just to see that the one card got ~22.5Mh/s.
4) Open ATI Win Flash again (as administrator), save the original "silent" BIOS
5) Open Polaris BIOS Editor v1.4, open the original "silent" BIOS you just saved, and in the bottom right window, edit the 2:1750, 2:2000, and 2:2250 timings to have the following value:777000000000000022AA1C00B56A6D46C0551017BE8E060C006AE6000C081420EA8900AB030000001B162C31C0313F17 Save the file as a "modded" BIOS file (Don't save over the original...) NOTE: MAKE SURE YOU DO THE 2:xxxx TIMINGS! There are two sets of them, 1:xxxx and 2:xxxx. Do the second set only (the last 3 entries in that little window)
6) Go back to ATI Win Flash, Program the card 7) Reboot, open Claymore's and make sure it's now ~29Mh/s 8) Unplug that card from the PCI, do the next one

Software: Claymore's Dual Miner v9.4 on Windows 10. PolarisBios BiosEditor v1.4
System: GPUs: AMD Radeon™ RX 580 GTR Black Edition 8GB Crimson. BestBuy Part No: RX-580P8DBRR or AMD Radeon™ RX 580 GTR XXX Edition 8GB White. BestBuy Part No: RX-580P8DFWR Motherboard: Asus Prime Z270-A, running 5 or 6 on PCI slots depending on stability, 1 on M2.2 with adapter.
RAM: 16 GB GDDR5 PCIE risers: Mintcell (Amazon) 4-Pack PCIe VER 006C PCI-E 16x to 1x Powered Riser Adapter Card w/ 60cm USB 3.0 Extension Cable & 6-Pin PCI-E to SATA Power Cable PowerSupply: Roswell 1500W (plenty of power, correct stock cables for power required)
 
#210 ·
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Originally Posted by Chimericat View Post

Hi, I have 8 XFX AMD Radeon RX580s, two Crimson and six White. They have been nothing but problems. As in this thread and the youtube video posted below, all over the internet there are resources showing how overclocking can result in 27-30 Mh/s mining rates with these GPUs. However, I have not seen anyone report consistent results after long periods of mining. In my hands, I can achieve stable mining for a few days to a week. However, I am currently left with 6 "bricked" cards. First, each showed strange, inconsistent operation. For instance, the computer would crash, with some of the cards left with LEDs on and fans spinning, others completely lights out as would be expected with the motherboard off. In another case, the card would run but the fans would not, so the card would start at a a high speed, then quickly drop to zero because I limited the temp to 71C. In each case, I would switch the bios back to the stock position. Sometimes this worked, sometimes not. When I was able to still recognize the card in the stock bios switch position, I would flip the switch back to the position I switch the bios and re-flash with the saved stock bios. After confirming the card was stable with the re-flashed stock bios, I tried re-flashing the modded bios (eg what it shown in this video using Polaris Bios Editor and ATIwinflash). Once again, I would get good operation for a while.. But ultimately, I am now left with 6 bricked cards unable to mine, the hardness for ether is doubled, the price of ether is half, and I've wasted over 100 hours troubleshooting and stuck with a three thousand dollar credit card bill. After over a month, I've earned only 1.4 ethereum.

The whole endeavor has been a lesson in the pain of noobery and why not to do projects outside of my wheelhouse. I knew there was a risk in the volatility of the currency, but had no idea how fringy the mining technology is. Running 6 or more overclocked GPUs is presented as legitimate, but in reality it appear we are pushing these machines to beyond what they are designed to do. Thus, there is a huge risk that the calculated ROI on paper will unlikely become reality.

Ultimately, I realize that my personal experience is a "one off", but the whole endeavor is unscientific because everything we find on the internet is self-reported and there is rarely follow up from users over the long term with users who report "success" after finally getting a system running, as I did, with a modded bios.

A review of how terrible these particular RX580's are:
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As with anything, "Mining", you are running -CONSUMER- grade video cards Waaaaaaaay outside of their designed operating parameters. Consumer video cards are -NOT- designed to operate @ 100% load 24-7-365. It's no surprise that they're dying when used for mining.

I'm sure you should know in your head when you started it that there's a very high chance of gpu failure when you try to mine with consumer cards. That's pretty much a "Given" acceptable risk with "Mining" things.

If you want a gpu to handle that sort of load consistently without failure look towards AMD FirePro or Titan or Tesla series cards. They're more robust in their components and actually designed for that sort of thing.

In short: It's not a fault of the card or the hardware or anything to do with that. The cards work great for what they're designed for.. they're not designed for the kind of load mining puts on them. So don't be surprised if your cards die spontaneously or stop working when you're mining. You're artificially trying to kill them faster than normal by mining em.
 
#211 ·
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Originally Posted by kithylin View Post

As with anything, "Mining", you are running -CONSUMER- grade video cards Waaaaaaaay outside of their designed operating parameters. Consumer video cards are -NOT- designed to operate @ 100% load 24-7-365. It's no surprise that they're dying when used for mining.

I'm sure you should know in your head when you started it that there's a very high chance of gpu failure when you try to mine with consumer cards. That's pretty much a "Given" acceptable risk with "Mining" things.

If you want a gpu to handle that sort of load consistently without failure look towards AMD FirePro or Titan or Tesla series cards. They're more robust in their components and actually designed for that sort of thing.

In short: It's not a fault of the card or the hardware or anything to do with that. The cards work great for what they're designed for.. they're not designed for the kind of load mining puts on them. So don't be surprised if your cards die spontaneously or stop working when you're mining. You're artificially trying to kill them faster than normal by mining em.
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What you've written above all totally make sense. However, after "doing my research" and finding a plethora of examples online of people running 6+ cards of this style at full capacity for the purpose of mining, it seemed like there was a precedent. After all, these cards aren't even available because the demand is so high for mining. On the other hand, if they are failing at the rate that mine have been, then no one is even breaking even, regardless of the stability of the currency value. I was explaining this to someone yesterday as welding together a string of VW beetles instead of using an actual 18 wheel big rig to haul a large load. The trouble with using graphic cards that cost thousands of dollars is the ROI, of course. You get the stability and higher hashrate, but one will never pay off their rig let alone profit with that kind of investment. So.. basically what this all amounts to is that the premise behind GPU mining is flawed?

Update: Today I was able to get 5 out of 7 of the "failed" RX580s to be recogized when I plugged them directly into the PCIe x16 slot, one at a time. I then used ATIWinFlash at the command line and the "-f -p" commands to force re-flash the stock bios, for both switch positions. After each bios flash, I ran Claymore to confirm I was getting the stock 22Mh/s and that the card was stable again. NOW... (after another half day of wasted effort) I will try re-installing them one at a time. The problem could be my PCI risers... they are notorious for failing due to poor craftsmanship, although those that I purchased have decent reviews.
 
#212 ·
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chimericat View Post

What you've written above all totally make sense. However, after "doing my research" and finding a plethora of examples online of people running 6+ cards of this style at full capacity for the purpose of mining, it seemed like there was a precedent. After all, these cards aren't even available because the demand is so high for mining. On the other hand, if they are failing at the rate that mine have been, then no one is even breaking even, regardless of the stability of the currency value. I was explaining this to someone yesterday as welding together a string of VW beetles instead of using an actual 18 wheel big rig to haul a large load. The trouble with using graphic cards that cost thousands of dollars is the ROI, of course. You get the stability and higher hashrate, but one will never pay off their rig let alone profit with that kind of investment. So.. basically what this all amounts to is that the premise behind GPU mining is flawed?

Update: Today I was able to get 5 out of 7 of the "failed" RX580s to be recogized when I plugged them directly into the PCIe x16 slot, one at a time. I then used ATIWinFlash at the command line and the "-f -p" commands to force re-flash the stock bios, for both switch positions. After each bios flash, I ran Claymore to confirm I was getting the stock 22Mh/s and that the card was stable again. NOW... (after another half day of wasted effort) I will try re-installing them one at a time. The problem could be my PCI risers... they are notorious for failing due to poor craftsmanship, although those that I purchased have decent reviews.
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Update #2 The issue does not appear related to overclocking or failed hardware

Since the issue results in Claymores hanging up, I am currently trying "-r 60" to refresh Claymores every hour. It is so strange.. One by one I reprogrammed the bios on every card using ATIwinflash at the command line (because in Win the cards were often not recognized) using the saved original bios with them plugged directly into the 1st PCI slot to eliminate possible issues with the risers. Many times the cards were still not recognized, but using their HDMI ports for running the display seemed to force them to be recognized. Once they all were working consistently individually by testing using Claymores, I physicallyremoved them all, restarted, and then also removed all the AMD drivers from Windows 10 using the "Display Driver Uninstaller" program. Then I plugged all 5 GPUs back into the risers and restarted so that they all loaded with the default windows driver. Then I followed by updating the driver manually to the patched driver available from the youtube user "cryptomined". I was so happy they ran successfully about 18h, even though it was the stock 22Mh/s rate! But then they crashed showing the same behavior as before. (eg Claymores and Win freezes, 4 out of 5 GPUs have fans spinning) After lots of troubleshooting, I found in Windows event viewer the following System error repeating over and over before 4 out of 5 GPUs crashed, "Warning - Source: Display Event ID: 4101 "Display driver amdkmdap stopped responding and successfully recovered". After that, I again unplugged all GPUs and risers, removed all drivers, then reinstalled all GPUs and drivers. Interestingly, again the hashrates and stability is restored to the stock values, at least for now. My conclusions from today are that the problem is hopefully not the GPUs, but something with the software/drivers. I am running 2 Crimson and 4 Black/white xfx amd 580s with the same bios and drivers. One possible issue I am pondering is whether they have different bios and I made the mistake of saving only one "original" which I have used to update both the Crimson and Black/white. Similarly, I don't know if it is incorrect to apply the same drivers to both versions of these GPUs. I don't think this is the issue though because there is still one card that never shows the problem the four others do! Sorry for the long reply. I just want to be thorough because I know there is something I am missing, but I think I am on the right track. Hopefully regularly re-starting Claymores solves the issue, but I am not holding my breath!
 
#213 ·
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Originally Posted by Chimericat View Post

Update #2 The issue does not appear related to overclocking or failed hardware

Since the issue results in Claymores hanging up, I am currently trying "-r 60" to refresh Claymores every hour. It is so strange.. One by one I reprogrammed the bios on every card using ATIwinflash at the command line (because in Win the cards were often not recognized) using the saved original bios with them plugged directly into the 1st PCI slot to eliminate possible issues with the risers. Many times the cards were still not recognized, but using their HDMI ports for running the display seemed to force them to be recognized. Once they all were working consistently individually by testing using Claymores, I physicallyremoved them all, restarted, and then also removed all the AMD drivers from Windows 10 using the "Display Driver Uninstaller" program. Then I plugged all 5 GPUs back into the risers and restarted so that they all loaded with the default windows driver. Then I followed by updating the driver manually to the patched driver available from the youtube user "cryptomined". I was so happy they ran successfully about 18h, even though it was the stock 22Mh/s rate! But then they crashed showing the same behavior as before. (eg Claymores and Win freezes, 4 out of 5 GPUs have fans spinning) After lots of troubleshooting, I found in Windows event viewer the following System error repeating over and over before 4 out of 5 GPUs crashed, "Warning - Source: Display Event ID: 4101 "Display driver amdkmdap stopped responding and successfully recovered". After that, I again unplugged all GPUs and risers, removed all drivers, then reinstalled all GPUs and drivers. Interestingly, again the hashrates and stability is restored to the stock values, at least for now. My conclusions from today are that the problem is hopefully not the GPUs, but something with the software/drivers. I am running 2 Crimson and 4 Black/white xfx amd 580s with the same bios and drivers. One possible issue I am pondering is whether they have different bios and I made the mistake of saving only one "original" which I have used to update both the Crimson and Black/white. Similarly, I don't know if it is incorrect to apply the same drivers to both versions of these GPUs. I don't think this is the issue though because there is still one card that never shows the problem the four others do! Sorry for the long reply. I just want to be thorough because I know there is something I am missing, but I think I am on the right track. Hopefully regularly re-starting Claymores solves the issue, but I am not holding my breath!
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I don't want to appear rude.. and... please I hope you don't see my post as being rude, but.. I think in general you are probably not going to find much help here on OCN for your issue mining. Most people on overclock.net are gamers or world record hunting overclockers. I might suggest you try to find a mining forum and ask there. However, if you want to try... In the very least I would suggest starting your own thread for this issue in one of the video card sections here on OCN and perhaps someone may help you there.

I don't believe your issues are anything to do with ATI Winflash in this thread.
 
#214 ·
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Originally Posted by kithylin View Post

I don't want to appear rude.. and... please I hope you don't see my post as being rude, but.. I think in general you are probably not going to find much help here on OCN for your issue mining. Most people on overclock.net are gamers or world record hunting overclockers. I might suggest you try to find a mining forum and ask there. However, if you want to try... In the very least I would suggest starting your own thread for this issue in one of the video card sections here on OCN and perhaps someone may help you there.

I don't believe your issues are anything to do with ATI Winflash in this thread.
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Hi Kithlyn,
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Thank you for taking the time to fill me in. I am new to this site and appreciate your directness. It is sometimes difficult to tell whether one is being redundant when starting new threads, which seems to be highly discouraged in online forums. However, I can see how my posts are very tangential to the spirit of this thread. To be clear, the reason I posted here originally is because I believed my problem was directly related to my inability to get ATIwinflash to recognize my cards. I still have two cards that I cannot seem to update the bios with the original because they are not recognized. Ultimately, I really appreciate the info on this thread because it allowed me to access the GPU bios in the command line and get 5 out of 7 of my bricked cards working again. Whether I am using them for gaming or mining, I think it at least relates to flashing the bios. It is true that at this point I believe the (possible) issue with the bios (plural?) is secondary to a driver or other issue. Thanks again for the advice for starting another thread, which I will do. I am also posting on relevant youtube videos, reddit /r/ethermining, bitcoin forum, and ethereum community forum. If you know of any others please let me know since I am clearly a noob!
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#217 ·
I have a Sapphire R9 285 ITX with the dual bios switch,
and every time I program the UEFI rom and then read the UEFI rom back, the following bytes are changed:

00000021: 7A 91
00000261: 5D 5E
00000263: 0F 2F
00000264: 10 D8

So if I program a dump from techpowerup and read it back it changes as well ...

(If I program the non UEFI version it's always the same)

Any ideas?

Everything still works fine, possibly the dump is not right on techpowerup ?
 
#218 ·
Hey guys I need some help please! My rx 580 nitro 8gb card is doa or something. The pc boots but the screen doesn't turn on for me with hdmi or display port. The gpus fans spin up for a sec then stop but the sapphire logo is still on the entire time. When I ran it with my other cards it did the same thing and just doesn't seem to work or register in device manager. I've tried to flash the bios to see if I could fix it through the atiflash from launch with a external hdd and the card still isn't registering with my pc??? What should I do? I saw there was a solder jump I could try but I can't seem to find a way or guide to do it. Is there anything I could possibly do? I know I won't get another back if I send it back due to the scarce supply so all help is appreciated!
 
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