[100cotton]

Recently snagged a 5600X for sale finally, and now I'm needing a mobo to pair it with. There are just so many options, even with what I'm looking for that I'm just unsure of what to get. Main things I'm looking for are:

<$200 is nice, but will stretch for good quality.
2x M.2 needed, 3 is nice.
Wifi is nice but not required. I do have a separate wifi card in current PC I can use still.
Good VRMs as I'm all about overclocking. CPU will be under water.
Aesthetically I'd prefer black and I don't care about RGB.
ATX form factor.

I'm unsure about most of the X570 having noisy chipset fans. Are they audible? I also plan to use my current 16GB 3000C15 ram for now and upgrade to 32GB later. Will that be holding me back in the meantime?

 

[Slaughtahouse]

I recently made the jump to AM4 from X79. I was a bit out of the loop with hardware but I received some help, and it set me on the path to understand all the current hardware.

I'll just copy / paste it here. Hope it helps you too.
Notes:
1. Prices may be out of whack with today's market and;
2. The list below excludes B550 as it was released after the video was published.

Compressed to sensible price points:
500$ - Asrock X570 Creator - 03:40 - TBolt3 + 10Gbit LAN
430$ - Asus Crosshair 8 Impact - 05:19 - Expensive "rally car" of overclocking motherboards
360$ - Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master - 08:12 - BZs preferred high end overclocking board alternative to the Asus Crosshair 8 Hero
320$ - Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming - 09:49 - Fully featured board with high end VRMs
300$ - MSI X570 Unify - 10:42 - Solid fully featured board
280$ - Asrock Taichi X570 - 12:00 - Cheap for a fully featured board, BZs personal choice
260$ - Asrock Taichi X470 Ultimate - 12:59 - Do you need cheap 10 gig lan? Get this.
250$ - Asus ROG Strix X570-I Gaming - 14:21 - BZs favorite ITX board
240$ - Asus ROG Strix X570-F Gaming - 15:55 - Solid all around board
220$ - Asus X470 Crosshair 7 Hero - 17:35 - Extreme overclocking board if you don't need PCIE-4.0
165$ - Asus TUF Gaming X570 Plus - 26:10 - Buy this! Don't ask questions! BUY THIS!!!
164$ - Asrock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 Wi-Fi ax - 27:17 - If you need Wi-Fi 6 cheap and nothing else, get this.
130$ - Asus ROG Strix B450-i - 30:36 - Obsoletes more expensive ITX with its good Vcore VRMs, Wi-Fi and great price, but has no BIOS flashback
127$ - Asus Prime X570-P - 32:01 - Basic board with great VRMs, ridiculously cheap on Amazon right now
95$ - MSI B450M Gaming Plus - 37:38 - It's cheap and has bios flashback.
80$ - MSI B450M Mortar Max - 42:23 - Cheap Mini-ATX

Buildzoid also has a video roundup on Gamer Nexus for B550... and a follow up video, to that video, liked below

 

[Peanuts4]

When I was doing hours and hours and hours of research into which mobo to get. Value being a top priority as well avoiding headaches. I really just wanted a smooth install and to minimize the chances of issues. What I found was that if you look at newegg, amazon, microcenter, anywhere that has a lot of reviews and compare user ratings the X570's look like garbage compared to B550 from a user review standpoint. B550's may lack some features (features that don't matter to me) however being that it came out a lot later than X570 I believe it's a better designed chipset. If it's not the case then I guess manufacturers just wanted to squeezed everything they could out of selling a "fancier" chipset but on lesser quality designed boards. I think the reviews speak for themselves.

 

[100cotton]

I'm thinking my top pick right now is the Asus TUF Gaming X570 Plus for $170. I'll give this thread a few more hours before pulling the trigger.

 

[PJVol]

b550 over x570, unless you need those stupid chipset pcie4 lanes

 

[Ichirou]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1dsu9K1Nt_7apHBdiy0MWVPcYjf6nOlr9CtkkfN78tSo/htmlview#

^ Gives a good empirical representation of the best boards so far in the 500 series. TL;DR: Get MSI or ASRock.

 

[Ashura]

I'm thinking my top pick right now is the Asus TUF Gaming X570 Plus for $170. I'll give this thread a few more hours before pulling the trigger.

TUF Gaming X570 Plus & GIGABYTE X570 AORUS ELITE are solid x570 boards under $200.

 

[derlarbz]

Been doing some research about it and decided to go with a MSI B550 A-Pro. Aiming for a 5900X when available.

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[Brko]

Have same enquiry as OP, which board to buy but for 3700X and Zen3 somewhat later (5900X) and to replace C6H.

I have shortlisted 3 MBO with mandatory Post Code display and Flashback BIOS buttons :

Asus B550-E Strix Gaming
MSI B550 Unify
ASRock X570 PG Velocita

Why Asus B550-E Strix Gaming?
From 2004 l use mostly Asus boards (socket A, socket 754, socket 775, socket 1155 and socket AM4). Despite being pissed about C6H "support", didn't have any major problems with Asus during those years. Still have P5Q-E working in backup rig 13 years old. So, l put it on my shortlist because l will swim in known territory with BIOS looks and feels.

Why MSI B550 Unify?
Had 3 top of the pops MSI GPUs (currently have 2080Ti Gaming X Trio) but never owned a MSI motherboard. I like this all black thing but do not know what to expect from BIOS and overall quality. So any thoughts about it will be very good.

Why ASRock X570 PG Velocita?
I had only one ASRock board (P55 Deluxe3) on socket 1156. It was a good board with pretty good BIOS. Almost bought X370 Taichi in 2017 instead of C6H. This is X570 board with all the bells and whistles of a much more expensive boards (post code display, on board buttons) but it have fan on chipset. As l read it could be winded down in BIOS.

So please, feel free to pinpoint some pros and cons about my shortlist. Please bear in mind that only these 3 MBO are in equasion. Please do not suggest any other boards since these are in my budget cap

Many thanks in advance.

 

[xeizo]

Have same enquiry as OP, which board to buy but for 3700X and Zen3 somewhat later (5900X) and to replace C6H.

I have shortlisted 3 MBO with mandatory Post Code display and Flashback BIOS buttons :

Asus B550-E Strix Gaming
MSI B550 Unify
ASRock X570 PG Velocita

Why Asus B550-E Strix Gaming?
From 2004 l use mostly Asus boards (socket A, socket 754, socket 775, socket 1155 and socket AM4). Despite being pissed about C6H "support", didn't have any major problems with Asus during those years. Still have P5Q-E working in backup rig 13 years old. So, l put it on my shortlist because l will swim in known territory with BIOS looks and feels.

Why MSI B550 Unify?
Had 3 top of the pops MSI GPUs (currently have 2080Ti Gaming X Trio) but never owned a MSI motherboard. I like this all black thing but do not know what to expect from BIOS and overall quality. So any thoughts about it will be very good.

Why ASRock X570 PG Velocita?
I had only one ASRock board (P55 Deluxe3) on socket 1156. It was a good board with pretty good BIOS. Almost bought X370 Taichi in 2017 instead of C6H. This is X570 board with all the bells and whistles of a much more expensive boards (post code display, on board buttons) but it have fan on chipset. As l read it could be winded down in BIOS.

So please, feel free to pinpoint some pros and cons about my shortlist. Please bear in mind that only these 3 MBO are in equasion. Please do not suggest any other boards since these are in my budget cap

Many thanks in advance.

Apart form myself being familiar with Asus, 1usmus apparently uses a B550-E so I guess they can't be half bad

I personally use a B550-F in my 3900X rig, has been quite undramatic, had the USB-errors with the first AGESA V2 bioses but they're gone now with AGESA 1.2.0.0 and some manual adjustments.

 

[Brko]

Apart form myself being familiar with Asus, 1usmus apparently uses a B550-E so I guess they can't be half bad

I personally use a B550-F in my 3900X rig, has been quite undramatic, had the USB-errors with the first AGESA V2 bioses but they're gone now with AGESA 1.2.0.0 and some manual adjustments.

Thanks.
B550-F made its way to my shortlist. After a good night sleep, post code display is no longer mandatory asset it can be bought for few bucks on eBay as PCI-E version so l am not giving 50+ EUR more for 5-cent display

B550-F or B550 TUF Gaming Plus. Both are quite interesting to me. Not interested in MSI at this price range. Their choice to put only 2 USB 3.x Type A connectors on back panel of Tomahawk/Gaming Edge is quite a d1ck move for this price range.

So l guess l will stick with Asus even further. Stockholm syndrome

Edit: B550-F WiFi it is. Thank you.

 

[LuckyImperial]

@Brko You and me both just went through the C6H debacle and are somehow ending up back on Asus haha. I got a TUF Gaming X570 Plus.

I spent nearly a whole day swapping out my C6H because my custom loop and when I dropped my 1700X into the TUF it didn't boot. I didn't check the CPU support list, and the first gen stuff isn't supported. Pulled it all out and started hunting for a 5600X, which I actually found at Best Buy.

I finally got my TUF and 5600X installed today and prayed to computer Jesus the the preinstalled bios was late enough to support the 5600. It was.

4.8Ghz all core with PBO pulls about 1.4325v. 64c max temp, but it's winter. It benches faster than my 1700x at 3.9Ghz 1.3625v... Two less cores haha.

 

[lukart]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1dsu9K1Nt_7apHBdiy0MWVPcYjf6nOlr9CtkkfN78tSo/htmlview#

^ Gives a good empirical representation of the best boards so far in the 500 series. TL;DR: Get MSI or ASRock.

I'm pretty happy with the Asrock B550 Extreme4, good all around motherboard, excellent VRMs and not too expensive. I bought it for 170$ which is a really good deal. I dont think you need to spend much more to get a quality mobo, considering the CPU, spending more than 200$ is a bit too much on my book.

 

[Brko]

@lukart And without BIOS flashback button on backpanel which is not acceptable on 2020 B550 midrange board.
BTW, got my B550-F for less than 200 USD so it was a good deal. Me neither will ever buy a motherboard that is north of 200-230 USD.

@LuckyImperial
4.8GHz you say? So l can expect the same from mine? Woow. I had R5 1600 (3.9GHz), R5 2600 (4.1GHz), R5 3600 (short bursts to 4.4GHz) and now R7 3700X (4.250GHz all core with CTR).

4.8GHz will be far more than all of the above CPUs ever achieved. So my guess that 5600X will be even-steven with 3700X in multithreaded tasks.

Can't wait monday

 

[LuckyImperial]

@Brko Yeah I'm getting really interesting behavior trying to tune this thing using Ryzen Master. I've previously always used BIOS to OC.

I'm gonna be posting my results over in this thread, but in short:

Ryzen Master Auto OC at 150 Boost Override is 4.8GHz, 4.7GHz under load, and I score 4269 in R20. It runs stable voltage at 1.325v and I peak at about 66C.
Ryzen Master Precision Boost Overdrive (PBO) is garbage. Stock boosts are not worth it. Don't use PBO if you have the cooler.
Ryzen Master Manual OC @ 4.7GHz all core 1.3625v scores nearly 4700! Whats odd is my thermals are way higher too for the same voltage as Auto OC. 1.319v under load...so even less.

What does Auto OC do less work at the same voltage/frequency but also pull less heat? It's odd.

 

[Brko]

@Brko Yeah I'm getting really interesting behavior trying to tune this thing using Ryzen Master. I've previously always used BIOS to OC.

I'm gonna be posting my results over in this thread, but in short:

Ryzen Master Auto OC at 150 Boost Override is 4.8GHz, 4.7GHz under load, and I score 4269 in R20. It runs stable voltage at 1.325v and I peak at about 66C.
Ryzen Master Precision Boost Overdrive (PBO) is garbage. Stock boosts are not worth it. Don't use PBO if you have the cooler.
Ryzen Master Manual OC @ 4.7GHz all core 1.3625v scores nearly 4700! Whats odd is my thermals are way higher too for the same voltage as Auto OC. 1.319v under load...so even less.

What does Auto OC do less work at the same voltage/frequency but also pull less heat? It's odd.

Many thanks.
So l set all to auto in BIOS and in Ryzen Master set to AutoOC? And that will be 4.8GHz?

 

[LuckyImperial]

Many thanks.
So l set all to auto in BIOS and in Ryzen Master set to AutoOC? And that will be 4.8GHz?

I'm finding that my best CB scores are still coming form a BIOS all core OC. Just like always.

Ryzen Master software OC works, but I'll admit that either I don't fully understand it or it's just bad. There's three options to OC in Ryzen Master. Precision Boost Overdrive, Auto OC, and Manual.

Manual OC seems to preform like a BIOS OC but the voltage drop is way higher. It's like it ignores board LLC when you try to do software voltage set. However, the stable clock rate seems the same despite voltage drop. 4.7GHz for 1.3625v for my 5600X.

Auto OC just seems like a "smart" boost increase that can never acheive an effective clock rate as high as your set point. It acts power limited.

Precision Boost Overdrive is confusing in software because I can't find a way to increase the core frequency here. In BIOS, there's an option to increase max clock rate to PBO, but it doesn't look like the same option is avaialbe in Ryzen Master. My CPU ran at max boost frequency out of the box...so I don't really see the advantage of PBO if you can't increase the max boost frequency.

Lastly...PBO in BIOS behaves a lot like Auto OC in Ryzen Master. I can add 200MHz on top of my 4.675GHz boost to get 4.875GHz...but the effective clock rate in an all core test never really boosts passed 4.2GHz. Power limit? Bad boosting algorithm? I really don't know.