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I have a great quad core 5.1 sound chip on my motherboard combined with 5.1 headsets(CM Storm) . Im trying to fine tune the Sound Blaster Equalizer for BF3 to get the best sound possible. I messed with the custom equalizer a little, but unsure about all the different frequencies and what would sound best. Any audiophiles have any suggestions. Thanks.
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Sorry, your equipment has nothing to do with "audiophile".

Apart from that, if you'll look up threads about audio equipment you will find that you will be told to listen to equipment before you purchase it.
I, personally, won't use anything in my receiver apart from "Pure direct" setting and pass-through sound from PC to it.
I got a friend that prefers listening with 5ch stereo setting... I hate that. He uses equalizer to add effects I try to remove all of that.

Bottom line, just play with settings till you like the sound.
 
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If you are after a neutral and natural sound then you need to emphasis the frequencies that your headphones has trouble reproducing. Basically your EQ curve should be the opposite compared to your headphone response curve.
Don't know how accurate this is but it was the best I could find.
--> http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/surround-sound-headset-benchmark,review-32376-11.html
Wow, thanks man. That helps alot. I have been looking all around the net for that. Some great information there. 10 band EQ also in the review, like mine.

Yes I am looking for a more neutral & natural sound. Ill try to set EQ to opposite of those recorded frequencies and see how it sounds. Thanks again. Repped
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With headphones, the best most 'neutral' frequency response is not flatline like it is with speakers.

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The beyerdynamic T1 is the closest frequency response wise to neutral there is.

EQ your headphones to how the T1 is. Remember to factor in different scales. In the above graph, take 50 dBu as the same as the value zero in the Headroom graph.
Have no idea why Tom's Hardware didn't follow procedure and graph it the proper way like Headroom does....
 
You do strive for flat response. It's just that headphones don't do it, so you strive for the closest to flat as you can get.
 
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hmmm that's interesting. i figured we were all striving for a flatline response.
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You do strive for flat response. It's just that headphones don't do it, so you strive for the closest to flat as you can get.
Nothing to do with (perceived) limitations of headphones. It's to do with the outer fleshy part of your ear (the pinnae) influencing the sound. When you are wearing headphones, you are effectively listening to two separate rooms for each ear with the room shaped like your ear with the shape of it being the ceiling. 'Flat' is what the T1 is.

You cannot apply speaker psychoacoustics to headphone psychoacoustics. 'Neutral' with headphones is not flatline (unless you don't have ears!)
 
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hmmm that's interesting. i figured we were all striving for a flatline response.
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You do strive for flat response. It's just that headphones don't do it, so you strive for the closest to flat as you can get.
Nothing to do with (perceived) limitations of headphones. It's to do with the outer fleshy part of your ear (the pinnae) influencing the sound. When you are wearing headphones, you are effectively listening to two separate rooms for each ear with the room shaped like your ear with the shape of it being the ceiling. 'Flat' is what the T1 is.

You cannot apply speaker psychoacoustics to headphone psychoacoustics. 'Neutral' with headphones is not flatline (unless you don't have ears!)
That's a pretty great way to explain it, CK!
 
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right, so for the sake of exercise if i wanted to eq my DT770's to 'match' the T1 it looks like i need to roughly:

31Hz -4dB
62Hz +2dB
125Hz -2dB
250Hz +4dB
500Hz +1dB
1KHz 0dB
2KHz 0dB
4KHz +4dB
8KHz 0dB
16KHz -10dB

is it a linear adjustment like that? seems a bit excessive. i usually don't like eq'ing more than a couple dB.
*the headroom FR plot is for the 250 ohm DT770's and i have the 80 ohm. like i said, for the sake of exercise.
 
We have ears whether or not the speaker is a speaker or it's a headphone. Your point would be pointful if they used some sort of artificial ear that mimics the human outer ear to measure the headphones, but they don't.
 
The T1's frequency response would be a good starting point, then tailor to your personal preference as you may or may not like the T1's frequency response.
 
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We have ears whether or not the speaker is a speaker or it's a headphone. Your point would be pointful if they used some sort of artificial ear that mimics the human outer ear to measure the headphones, but they don't.
lol they do. Here read this: What we hear at the eardrum is really different to what is ideal measurement wise:

http://www.synaudcon.com/site/blog/general-topics/not-exactly-omni-a-look-at-human-listerner-directivity/

You still haven't provided any scientific evidence. This stuff has been figured out for the last 20 years.
 
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If you are after a neutral and natural sound then you need to emphasis the frequencies that your headphones has trouble reproducing. Basically your EQ curve should be the opposite compared to your headphone response curve.
Basically this. In general, the EQ is going to look like a bowl. I.e. the Lows and Highs will have large +db values, while the mid area will be relatively low (near +0). I personally like my stuff bass heavy, so I've got the 31, 62 and 100hz response settings set as high as they can go WITHOUT causing 'buzzing'.

Also make sure to set everything to as close to real-world as possible. I have no idea about your soundcard setup, but mine (Soundblaster Titanium HD) has options for speaker size and so on. If you've got that setting, I'd run it at "20%".
 
Neutral headphones aren't fun.

I don't EQ based upon making a headphone neutral.

I EQ based upon making the headphone sound good to me.

I think you should do the same. Play with all the sliders sliding them from the lowest to the highest then bringing them down until the frequency is just right for you.
 
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Neutral headphones aren't fun.
The T1 sounds meh. I'd take the HE-6 or HD-700 over them by far.

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Discussion starter · #20 ·
Im trying to learn about the 10 band EQ that I have and how to make it sound the best for me. What Im looking for is just a baseline for a more natural/realistic sound with my headphones and current setup. After that I will tweak the EQ to the sound that is to my liking. Thanks.
 
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