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I've been looking at the newer CPU's that have been coming out and I've been curious, is there much difference in performance between the first generation of i7 compare to Ivy? I'm currently running the i7 950 @ 4.0 Ghz. Reason I ask is I play alot of CPU intensive games (MMO's) and are looking for the best performance.
 
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I've been looking at the newer CPU's that have been coming out and I've been curious, is there much difference in performance between the first generation of i7 compare to Ivy? I'm currently running the i7 950 @ 4.0 Ghz. Reason I ask is I play alot of CPU intensive games (MMO's) and are looking for the best performance.
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yes you will see an increase in performance but it's going to be minimal for gaming.
 
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I see, any estimated date on when any new Intel CPU's that yield a bigger performance come out?
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Depends on your definition of a worth while upgrade. The way I see it I wouldn't upgrade until your current rig can no longer do what you want out of it.
 
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Lol, ask the computer programmers.

The reality is that in computers there is always a threshold in terms of hardware and software. Right now the CPU performance has reached a point where it is so fast that game companies can't keep up. People still max out games on AMD X4s . The general consensus at the moment for CPU requirements is a quad core CPU running at 2.5ghz or above. Until BF4 or some other crazy game requires 6 cores CPUs to run at max, you should be able to keep your 950 for a long time.
 
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Lol, ask the computer programmers.
The reality is that in computers there is always a threshold in terms of hardware and software. Right now the CPU performance has reached a point where it is so fast that game companies can't keep up. People still max out games on AMD X4s . The general consensus at the moment for CPU requirements is a quad core CPU running at 2.5ghz or above. Until BF4 or some other crazy game requires 6 cores CPUs to run at max, you should be able to keep your 950 for a long time.
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Pretty much. Same idea as me but explained much better.
 
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I do however want to add a single caveat. Right now people are still buying intel i7 950s for a pretty fair price off of ebay, and you can sometimes get away with picking up a i5 2500K for a fairly good price. In fact if I had sold my i7 950 with my mobo (still have my damnable mobo that is taking up space
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) and ram I probably could have upgraded to a simple (yet powerful) i5 build without any loss.

What I like about that prospect is that the 1366 mobos use marvell controlled sata III ports. This severely impacts the performance of sata III SSDs to the point where some people actually get better results when using their sata III SSD on a sata II port.
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But if you swap out your system, you can get intel sata III ports which actually makes quite a big difference in SSD performance. PLUS you get better a better CPU for things like trans coding media and that sort of stuff.

So let me put it this way. If you were somehow able to sell your system for a good price it would actually be worth it to upgrade in a certain sense.
 
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I do however want to add a single caveat. Right now people are still buying intel i7 950s for a pretty fair price off of ebay, and you can sometimes get away with picking up a i5 2500K for a fairly good price. In fact if I had sold my i7 950 with my mobo (still have my damnable mobo that is taking up space
mad.gif
) and ram I probably could have upgraded to a simple (yet powerful) i5 build without any loss.
What I like about that prospect is that the 1366 mobos use marvell controlled sata III ports. This severely impacts the performance of sata III SSDs to the point where some people actually get better results when using their sata III SSD on a sata II port.
kookoo.gif
But if you swap out your system, you can get intel sata III ports which actually makes quite a big difference in SSD performance. PLUS you get better a better CPU for things like trans coding media and that sort of stuff.
So let me put it this way. If you were somehow able to sell your system for a good price it would actually be worth it to upgrade in a certain sense.
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This is true about the Sata ports. I had this issue since I'm running P55 socket. I had a good but of help from Sean and he specifically said to avoid the Marvel controllers. I still get amazing speed but it's obviously not the same as getting a native 6gb/s connection. If you really want to then I would suggest getting a RAID card that has 6gb/s. It's a bit more expensive but I would hope that they would give equal performance to that of a native 6gb/s port.
 
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I've said this before and I'll say it now. It is not worth for i7 9xx users to upgrade to anything there is right now unless your current x58 motherboard does not support Sata III, USB 3 and you must have them. (mine supports them)

IVY is faster than nehalem clock-per-clock by a small margin, but you won't notice it in games. It's in benchmarks like encoding, 3ds Max rending, and Photoship where it will perform better. Still not a reason to upgrade.

In addition, you're running your beast at 4.0GHz. Don't upgrade!
 
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I am thinking about the exact same thing. I'm running a i7 950 stable at 4,2 ghz on a Asus P6X58D-E MB. I only use my PC for games (FPS).

If there is not much performance to gain by upgrading to a Ivy 3770K (or even a i5 3570K), I'm down to few reasons for upgrading:

1. Newer chipset support Trim on SSD while running Raid (I have 3 Intel-SSD's running Raid0).
2. Better MB layout / Bigger MB (E-ATX og XL-ATX) I could need some more space/ports (PCI-e and SATA)
3. Good SATA III controller. Actually I did a test on a Gigabyte x58 MoBo: Intel SATA II outperformed Marwell SATA III! A new MB should give me future support, when my older Intel SSD's are due for change.

Can't think about anything else. Maybe just for fun? USB 3 i dont need.

I really dont know. I want to build new rig, but I guess it's just stupid. Damn the fast-pace computerdevelopment!!
 
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#1 has been fixed by the newer RST drivers
#3 Everyone knows Marvell 9128 (and 9128 and its derivatives only) runs like crap. I've done tests on my mobo with modded BIOS and it was just on par with the ICH. That said, if you have Gigabyte's newer mobos like X58A-OC or G1's they have Marvell 9182: same controller but wired to PCIe x4 there you have some nice performance.

Sent from my MT15i
 
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Depends on your definition of a worth while upgrade. The way I see it I wouldn't upgrade until your current rig can no longer do what you want out of it.
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Have nothing useful to post except to say that this is the best upgrade advice I've seen for some time on this forum. Logic. Thank you. So much.
 
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Have nothing useful to post except to say that this is the best upgrade advice I've seen for some time on this forum. Logic. Thank you. So much.
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Yeah. Personally my setup is still doing great for anything I throw at it, and that is with the CPU @3 GHz.
 
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I always see people saying ''not worth going from i7 920 to 3770, vice versa''

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I went from i5 760 3.9 ghz to i7 3770 non k. i5 760 is basically same as i7 without HT

In BF3 performance with 64 players was like 50% more with 64 players.. in the WHOLE map.. could be even like up to 80%
and in all games frames are much more smooth, only for the smoodness allready I would went to the new i7 series! And Its much more advanced in terms of performance and wattage

its basically the feeling I had from Core 2 duo 3ghz to core 2 Quad > i5 760 vs i7 3770. Just like BAM, new dimension you step in, even the feeling in windows is MUCH snappier, ofcourse with SSD as well.
I never would go back the old platform!!! Even not if the i5 was at 6ghz
 
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