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Due for release tomorrow. Given all the QC issues with the Asus ROG Swift, this might just be a better choice.

27", 1440P (2560x1440)
TN Panel
G-Sync
DisplayPort 1.2, HDMI 1.4, four USB 3.0 ports, USB 3.0 upstream, Audio line-out & Headphone-out
144hz Refresh rate, 1 ms response time

Estimated retail is $799 USD

Given it's not part of the ultrasharp lineup it may not have the same support for dead or stuck pixels or screen issues but will be interesting to find out.

http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/RobilarOCN/media/dell_zpsdnryq6vw.jpg.html
 
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Hmmm.. Well, for those gaming freaks that need those insane refresh rates above quality, this is just another late to the party TN panel isn't it? What's going to be unique about this one? If it was IPS, 100hz, 29" and came without BLB, flicker, and firmware bugs for 799 I would buy it despite the DELL label.
 
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Hmmm.. Well, for those gaming freaks that need those insane refresh rates above quality, this is just another late to the party TN panel isn't it? What's going to be unique about this one? If it was IPS, 100hz, 29" and came without BLB, flicker, and firmware bugs for 799 I would buy it despite the DELL label.
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I'd say a 557 page thread on a monitor with similar specs here at OCN that has quite a few issues would be indicative of the level of interest there would be. Especially given Dell's reputation for quality control and customer service.

Unique? How about a monitor that works as advertised without needing to win a return lottery?

Guess there are more than a few of us "gaming freaks"
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Hmmm.. Well, for those gaming freaks that need those insane refresh rates above quality, this is just another late to the party TN panel isn't it? What's going to be unique about this one? If it was IPS, 100hz, 29" and came without BLB, flicker, and firmware bugs for 799 I would buy it despite the DELL label.
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I'd say a 557 page thread on a monitor with similar specs here at OCN that has quite a few issues would be indicative of the level of interest there would be. Especially given Dell's reputation for quality control and customer service.

Unique? How about a monitor that works as advertised without needing to win a return lottery?

Guess there are more than a few of us "gaming freaks"
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Maybe, but I just can't imagine paying $800 for a TN monitor.

Heck, I payed ~$350 for a 1440p IPS 110hz monitor years ago... Even if you double that price for QC/customer support + a nice stand and throw in another $100 for the GSync ASIC, 800 bucks should get you a VA or IPS panel.
 
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I'd say a 557 page thread on a monitor with similar specs here at OCN that has quite a few issues would be indicative of the level of interest there would be. Especially given Dell's reputation for quality control and customer service.

Unique? How about a monitor that works as advertised without needing to win a return lottery?

Guess there are more than a few of us "gaming freaks"
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Yeah, I get it but Dell has been making some crap lately.. When the hammer came down on the price fixing, the panel quality went to absolute crap. They made better monitors 10 years ago. Dell has a reputation for quality.. Ok, us old timers remember when it was the best of the 3rd tier mfgs. One step above Gateway. It's sad that this junk passes for quality. I tend not to get excited unless something great is coming. This should be great, poor viewing angles and colors aside but I doubt it will be. We should be excited about better tech. I doubt Dell has managed to source better panels or driver boards. Whatever contractor they get to assemble it won't do a better job. I can almost guarantee it. But we can hope I guess. And there sure are a lot of folks who want that fast refresh rate over a quality color high rez display. I am aware of that. Their just an oddity to me. Like people who prefer console gaming. No offence meant, we are all a bit freaky.
 
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None taken ?

I have a lovely IPS monitor that i use for work purposes.
 
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Looking forward to it, hopefully tftcentral gets one to review, it most likely uses the same panel as the asus pg278q and the benq xl2730z so that's nice, hopefully it won't have the same problems as the asus since you don't hear the benq having all those issues, as for the price the original swift didn't stay at $799 did it? and the dell won't either if anything it should be near the swift's price pretty soonish after all there's competition....there are options out there.

bit off topic but really the only significant "better tech" that needs to be here in the affordable/mainstream form is OLED, IPS isn't really that amazing to be excited about, while it's great and better than TN it's still meh compared to what is out there, hell I'd take a VA monitor over IPS because of the contrast ratio and OLED is the king when it comes to contrast ratio, colors etc.. that's where the future is at, also the Dell uses an 8bit TN panel, a very good one at that, if you calibrate it it will look almost as good as IPS, sure the viewing angles won't be that good if not viewing head on and colors won't pop out as much but they'd be still damn good for a TN and it won't be washed out like the usual old high refresh rate TN panels.

Check out CallsignVega's post comparing Acer X34 curved 100Hz IPS vs the asus rog swift pg278q here:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1554247/build-log-vegas-2015-chromed-copper-tube-gaming-system/70#post_24519554

I don't see anything wrong with getting the Dell S2716dg if the reviews are good, and buyers report that it doesn't have all the issues the PG278q has.
 
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Maybe, but I just can't imagine paying $800 for a TN monitor.
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Yup. They always say "vote with your wallet" and that's what I'm doing. I'll never pay this much for an IPS monitor ever again either.
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bit off topic but really the only significant "better tech" that needs to be here in the affordable/mainstream form is OLED, IPS isn't really that amazing to be excited about, while it's great and better than TN it's still meh compared to what is out there, hell I'd take a VA monitor over IPS because of the contrast ratio and OLED is the king when it comes to contrast ratio, colors etc.. that's where the future is at, also the Dell uses an 8bit TN panel, a very good one at that, if you calibrate it it will look almost as good as IPS, sure the viewing angles won't be that good if not viewing head on and colors won't pop out as much but they'd be still damn good for a TN and it won't be washed out like the usual old high refresh rate TN panels.
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Yeah the "IPS master race" thing going on today is annoying. It's less common here on OCN since users here are generally a bit more knowledgeable than average or at least willing to pick up knowledge. I have no experience with the TN panel used in this Dell monitor, but based on comparisons from CallsignVega and s1rrah, IPS is barely any better. I think both IPS and TN are crap for entertainment purposes due to the similarly poor contrast and blacks. The exception being competitive gaming of course, where the responsiveness/extremely low lag of TN and high refresh rate AHVA monitors comes in handy. But at these prices, these 27" 1440p 144 Hz VRR monitors should be using really nice SPVA panels with at least 3000:1 static contrast, and perhaps with full-array LED backlighting. But we really need OLED to come in and wash away all this LCD crap.
 
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Yup. They always say "vote with your wallet" and that's what I'm doing. I'll never pay this much for an IPS monitor ever again either.
Yeah the "IPS master race" thing going on today is annoying. It's less common here on OCN since users here are generally a bit more knowledgeable than average or at least willing to pick up knowledge. I have no experience with the TN panel used in this Dell monitor, but based on comparisons from CallsignVega and s1rrah, IPS is barely any better. I think both IPS and TN are crap for entertainment purposes due to the similarly poor contrast and blacks. The exception being competitive gaming of course, where the responsiveness/extremely low lag of TN and high refresh rate AHVA monitors comes in handy. But at these prices, these 27" 1440p 144 Hz VRR monitors should be using really nice SPVA panels with at least 3000:1 static contrast, and perhaps with full-array LED backlighting. But we really need OLED to come in and wash away all this LCD crap.
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I think Did you mean AMVA? AHVA is an IPS type panel with the same contrast pixel response and glow limitations.

IPS was great with the TW polarizers they used to have. It reduces or removed almost all glow from the screen. Contrast was still no great, but it was more than acceptable.

VA panels still need to get faster to compete on a larger scale(and this is still the panel type I am hoping will show the most improvement and become more standard). Faster panels without requiring overdrive would be that much better. Even the fastest TN panels have to use overdrive to get this speed and that creates artifacts.
 
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BTW not being released today. Spoke to Dell they have no confirmed ETA for it.
 
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I think Did you mean AMVA? AHVA is an IPS type panel with the same contrast pixel response and glow limitations.

IPS was great with the TW polarizers they used to have. It reduces or removed almost all glow from the screen. Contrast was still no great, but it was more than acceptable.

VA panels still need to get faster to compete on a larger scale(and this is still the panel type I am hoping will show the most improvement and become more standard). Faster panels without requiring overdrive would be that much better. Even the fastest TN panels have to use overdrive to get this speed and that creates artifacts.
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No I meant AHVA (PG279Q, MG279Q, XB270HU specifically) since these monitors are great for competitive fast/twitch gaming. Although as far as AMVA goes, I look forward to TFTCentral's review of the BenQ XR3501.

I'd much rather have OLED improve and wipe LCD off the face of the planet entirely. LCD is inherently limited and flawed in comparison.
 
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No I meant AHVA (PG279Q, MG279Q, XB270HU specifically) since these monitors are great for competitive fast/twitch gaming. Although as far as AMVA goes, I look forward to TFTCentral's review of the BenQ XR3501.

I'd much rather have OLED improve and wipe LCD off the face of the planet entirely. LCD is inherently limited and flawed in comparison.
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At least you still have backlight strobe in the mean time. It greatly improves motion on LCD panels that support it.

OLED or similar will be great for sure(love the viewing angles on those things and the black levels that are actually black).
 
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I think Did you mean AMVA? AHVA is an IPS type panel with the same contrast pixel response and glow limitations.

IPS was great with the TW polarizers they used to have. It reduces or removed almost all glow from the screen. Contrast was still no great, but it was more than acceptable.

VA panels still need to get faster to compete on a larger scale(and this is still the panel type I am hoping will show the most improvement and become more standard). Faster panels without requiring overdrive would be that much better. Even the fastest TN panels have to use overdrive to get this speed and that creates artifacts.
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No I meant AHVA (PG279Q, MG279Q, XB270HU specifically) since these monitors are great for competitive fast/twitch gaming. Although as far as AMVA goes, I look forward to TFTCentral's review of the BenQ XR3501.

I'd much rather have OLED improve and wipe LCD off the face of the planet entirely. LCD is inherently limited and flawed in comparison.
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Unfortunately, true picture quality isn't everything for manufacturers. Heck, LCDs wiped out plasmas and other promising technologies like Canon's SED, and Sony's FED and Direct LED displays just because the LCD industry is so well established.

I hope OLEDs come soon, but I have a feeling we'll be stuck with LCDs for awhile.
 
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Been lurking here at Overclock for awhile, mostly in the PG279Q thread, but I ultimately decided to go with the TN Dell panel since I mostly play FPS titles and already have a second ultrawide IPS monitor for real work.

It's interesting that Dell CS said it wasn't available yet, since I just received my S2716DG via FedEx this morning (in the US)! Ordered it last Friday via this page: http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&sku=210-AGJR , and it delivered today.

I am hoping that this will be a higher-quality PG278Q without all the scary QC issues. 3-year advanced exchange warranty is also a nice addition, along with the HDMI port.

I'll post some pictures once I'm back home, and hopefully positive impressions. This is my first high-refresh rate monitor, too, so if there's something you guys would like me to try testing out, just let me know.
 
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Been lurking here at Overclock for awhile, mostly in the PG279Q thread, but I ultimately decided to go with the TN Dell panel since I mostly play FPS titles and already have a second ultrawide IPS monitor for real work.

It's interesting that Dell CS said it wasn't available yet, since I just received my S2716DG via FedEx this morning (in the US)! Ordered it last Friday via this page: http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&sku=210-AGJR , and it delivered today.

I am hoping that this will be a higher-quality PG278Q without all the scary QC issues. 3-year advanced exchange warranty is also a nice addition, along with the HDMI port.

I'll post some pictures once I'm back home, and hopefully positive impressions. This is my first high-refresh rate monitor, too, so if there's something you guys would like me to try testing out, just let me know.
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That is good news. Mind you I called Dell Canada. They may be somewhat behind on it. I noticed on the link you provided the ship date is listed as November 10th. They might want to update that.
 
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That is good news. Mind you I called Dell Canada. They may be somewhat behind on it. I noticed on the link you provided the ship date is listed as November 10th. They might want to update that.
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Ah that's true, Dell Canada and US could be different. I also noticed today that it's now available for preorder in the US through Newegg, with an estimated release of 10/27. Could be a better option for many if they qualify for no tax in their state.
 
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