Acer Z35P In hand and small review

RadActiveLobstr · May 16, 2017

I'm very tempted to get this.

I don't do any pro work (some light photoshopping and video editing but nothing where the colors really even matter) so I'm not too concerned with color accuracy. I don't want it to be bad obviously but if it's decent, then I'm ok.

Wish the bezels weren't so big though.

Would be nice for productivity. Put it in the center and turn my two side 27" monitors to portrait mode.

Decisions, decisions.

Notwist · May 16, 2017

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Originally Posted by quovadis123

I do not agree.
I think AMVA is excellent for photography and colors.
I have had both IPS and AMVA panels and I process tons of photographs in RAW on a daily basis. Color, and color correction in photo shop is my salary. That is what I do.
I currently use 32" Asus amva panel and am very happy.

Ips is better (a little more vibrant) on reds and greens, whereas amva excels in black and orange. For example look at an orange flame on black background and compare.

You do color sensitive work on a panel that shifts saturation and colors based on how your head is positioned? That is known for some amount of black crush?

Nobody ever said it's impossible to do color work on a VA panel, but it's certainly not the best option given the black crush and viewing angles.

Benny89 · May 16, 2017

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Originally Posted by Notwist

You do color sensitive work on a panel that shifts saturation and colors based on how your head is positioned? That is known for some amount of black crush?

Nobody ever said it's impossible to do color work on a VA panel, but it's certainly not the best option given the black crush and viewing angles.

Nowadays VA panels do not shift saturation by simple turning your head. If its not Ultra Wide you have to actually move your head by quite a lot to one side to see shift. If you work with your head at the centre of the screen sitting in good chair you won't see any saturation on 16:9 monitor.

Ultrawide is little different but aggresive curve helps wide shift on sides. I think this one has same curve that Omen X?

quovadis123 · May 16, 2017

Yes, I do color sensitive work for the fashion industry. To be precise, high-end luxury women's hand bags. Each hand bag costs up to 20'000 USD.
In fact my office is filled with pantone books and color charts/chips.
I have never used an ultra wide to do photo editing. 32" amva x 3 screens is what i use.
I sit right in front of my photoshop canvas.
There is no shift. Whites are prefect and blacks are excellent.
My objective is simple whilst doing color work. The output photo has to be exactly the same color as the product.
The lighting has to be perfect, the angles of shooting have to be perfect.
This is a science, nothing is random.
I think both IPS and amva are good for what I do. I simply have a preference for Amva.

Notwist · May 16, 2017

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Originally Posted by quovadis123

Yes, I do color sensitive work for the fashion industry. To be precise, high-end luxury women's hand bags. Each hand bag costs up to 20'000 USD.
In fact my office is filled with pantone books and color charts/chips.
I have never used an ultra wide to do photo editing. 32" amva x 3 screens is what i use.
I sit right in front of my photoshop canvas.
There is no shift. Whites are prefect and blacks are excellent.
My objective is simple whilst doing color work. The output photo has to be exactly the same color as the product.
The lighting has to be perfect, the angles of shooting have to be perfect.
This is a science, nothing is random.
I think both IPS and amva are good for what I do. I simply have a preference for Amva.

Well be forewarned that this panel exhibits worse than standard color shift.

Snakecharmed · May 16, 2017

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Originally Posted by quovadis123

Yes, I do color sensitive work for the fashion industry. To be precise, high-end luxury women's hand bags. Each hand bag costs up to 20'000 USD.
In fact my office is filled with pantone books and color charts/chips.
I have never used an ultra wide to do photo editing. 32" amva x 3 screens is what i use.
I sit right in front of my photoshop canvas.
There is no shift. Whites are prefect and blacks are excellent.
My objective is simple whilst doing color work. The output photo has to be exactly the same color as the product.
The lighting has to be perfect, the angles of shooting have to be perfect.
This is a science, nothing is random.
I think both IPS and amva are good for what I do. I simply have a preference for Amva.

In general, I don't disagree. In the context of this monitor and all of its cousins though, none of that applies.
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Originally Posted by Notwist

Well be forewarned that this panel exhibits worse than standard color shift.

There are modern AMVA panels, and then there's this 35" ultrawide AU Optronics AMVA panel, which is a throwback to the mid-2000s and trash as far as color accuracy and viewing angles are concerned.

Benny89 · May 16, 2017

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Originally Posted by Notwist

Well be forewarned that this panel exhibits worse than standard color shift.

Can you elaborate? How do you know that?

Notwist · May 16, 2017

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Originally Posted by Benny89

Can you elaborate? How do you know that?

I've owned and used other VA panels, and I owned and used the Omen X 35 for a few days and that's one of the reasons I returned it. TFTCentral then reported the same when they reviewed the AOC branded version of this panel. And the Z35p uses the same panel as both the Omen and the AOC.

Robilar · May 16, 2017

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Originally Posted by Notwist

I've owned and used other VA panels, and I owned and used the Omen X 35 for a few days and that's one of the reasons I returned it. TFTCentral then reported the same when they reviewed the AOC branded version of this panel. And the Z35p uses the same panel as both the Omen and the AOC.

It uses the same panel except it can be overclocked to 120hz and the Acer provides a 3 year warranty unlike the 1 year with the HP unit.

Notwist · May 16, 2017

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Originally Posted by Robilar

It uses the same panel except it can be overclocked to 120hz and the Acer provides a 3 year warranty unlike the 1 year with the HP unit.

Oh I absolutely agree that if somebody was going to buy this panel, the Acer is the version to get. Just noticed that the viewing angles aren't like most modern VA panels. Some people might be bothered, others might not be.

Robilar · May 16, 2017

The viewing angles aren't really a factor due to the curve. I have the current Z35 and as long as you are sitting center lined to the monitor, the viewing angles are great. I wasn't sure that a curved monitor made sense before but it really does in this form factor.

Notwist · May 16, 2017

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Originally Posted by Robilar

The viewing angles aren't really a factor due to the curve. I have the current Z35 and as long as you are sitting center lined to the monitor, the viewing angles are great. I wasn't sure that a curved monitor made sense before but it really does in this form factor.

I think it depends on how far back you sit from the screen. I noticed a loss of saturation towards the edges of the Omen, and a slight "shimmer" in my periphery vision. I sit about 3-4 feet away from the screen.

Robilar · May 16, 2017

That is farther away than I sit. I am a bit less than 3 feet.

livejamie · May 17, 2017

Is Amazon the only place to order this in the United States?

Robilar · May 17, 2017

Check and see if Canada Computers will ship to the US. They have plenty in stock.

livejamie · May 17, 2017

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Originally Posted by Robilar

Check and see if Canada Computers will ship to the US. They have plenty in stock.

"Online Store: Order Online and Pick Up In-Store - This product is available to order online but must be picked up in-store."

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_1195_700_1429&item_id=105440

meniK · May 17, 2017

Are you guys kidding me? AMVA for editing? That only works if you sit away at least 95cm with the Omen.
Everything detailed ends up like this :

This is taken from a very close angle but represents the color shifts I was experiencing when sitting 60cm away from the Omen X 35. If you tell me the Z35P is way different, then hallelujah, I will try this one. But when I got the AMVA Panel of the Omen after using IPS for the last 5 years, I felt like Back to the Future.

If you start arguing for AMVA in terms of color and viewing angles please show me proper images and Infos about the circumstances.

Like I said, I'll be happy if you convince me, but the AMVA of the Omen was the worst I have seen in a while...

MistaSparkul · May 17, 2017

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Originally Posted by meniK

Are you guys kidding me? AMVA for editing? That only works if you sit away at least 95cm with the Omen.
Everything detailed ends up like this :

This is taken from a very close angle but represents the color shifts I was experiencing when sitting 60cm away from the Omen X 35. If you tell me the Z35P is way different, then hallelujah, I will try this one. But when I got the AMVA Panel of the Omen after using IPS for the last 5 years, I felt like Back to the Future.

If you start arguing for AMVA in terms of color and viewing angles please show me proper images and Infos about the circumstances.

Like I said, I'll be happy if you convince me, but the AMVA of the Omen was the worst I have seen in a while...

I have to agree with you. Sadly the VA panel on the Omen/AOC/Acer is a joke compared to more recent VA panels. A laughable 2000:1 contrast ratio, problematic dark transitions that other VA panels have managed to overcome, and even worst viewing angles. Despite it's shortcomings though I only use my monitor for gaming only, no serious color work so I found myself enjoying this monitor way more than the glowy IPS panels that ruins all dark scenery.

Feklar · May 18, 2017

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Originally Posted by meniK

Are you guys kidding me? AMVA for editing? That only works if you sit away at least 95cm with the Omen.
Everything detailed ends up like this :

This is taken from a very close angle but represents the color shifts I was experiencing when sitting 60cm away from the Omen X 35. If you tell me the Z35P is way different, then hallelujah, I will try this one. But when I got the AMVA Panel of the Omen after using IPS for the last 5 years, I felt like Back to the Future.

If you start arguing for AMVA in terms of color and viewing angles please show me proper images and Infos about the circumstances.

Like I said, I'll be happy if you convince me, but the AMVA of the Omen was the worst I have seen in a while...

Do you happen to have the same photo taken directly in front rather than the angle shot this is? I never look at any monitor at this angle. Curious to see the difference.

Jbravo33 · May 18, 2017

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Originally Posted by meniK

Are you guys kidding me? AMVA for editing? That only works if you sit away at least 95cm with the Omen.
Everything detailed ends up like this :

This is taken from a very close angle but represents the color shifts I was experiencing when sitting 60cm away from the Omen X 35. If you tell me the Z35P is way different, then hallelujah, I will try this one. But when I got the AMVA Panel of the Omen after using IPS for the last 5 years, I felt like Back to the Future.

If you start arguing for AMVA in terms of color and viewing angles please show me proper images and Infos about the circumstances.

Like I said, I'll be happy if you convince me, but the AMVA of the Omen was the worst I have seen in a while...

who looks at the screen from that angle? lol ive never looked at any monitor or tv from any angle. its directly in front of you. why and who would set things up to be viewed at an angle? that's new to me.

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