I have the G933 and G633, I don't believe they are true surround sound. I've been playing this game called Tarkov lately and it's very competitive so I'm thinking of using this holiday deals to snatch some new headphones. The problem I have now is, its hard to tell sounds coming from above or below. I believe a true 7.1 headphone will fix that. I don't have a budget atm, I'm just gonna put the recommended headphones on the list and see which one goes on sale the most.
Whats a good true surround sound headphone for gaming?
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I have the G933 and G633, I don't believe they are true surround sound. I've been playing this game called Tarkov lately and it's very competitive so I'm thinking of using this holiday deals to snatch some new headphones. The problem I have now is, its hard to tell sounds coming from above or below. I believe a true 7.1 headphone will fix that. I don't have a budget atm, I'm just gonna put the recommended headphones on the list and see which one goes on sale the most.
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did I miss true surround head phones becoming a thing?
only thing I could imagine are multiple speakers inside each cup? o.o!
as far as i'm aware, aside from a few turtle beach models(?) 99.99% of headphone surround sound is fake, modulated audio.
only thing I could imagine are multiple speakers inside each cup? o.o!
as far as i'm aware, aside from a few turtle beach models(?) 99.99% of headphone surround sound is fake, modulated audio.
Good stereo headphones will provide MUCH better imaging then multi-driver headphones.
That's just like an end of story fact at the moment. Things could change in the future.
At 100 dollars look at the Sennheiser 5xx series.
At 200 look at something like AD700s, Massdrop HD6xx, Phillips Fidelio X2s etc
At 300 you are entering the land of dacs, amps and high end headphones / planar magnetics.
Just use the games default settings for headphones and buy a stereo pair. Imaging will be much better. Check out the youtube clip where they simulate a hair cut. You can hear the imaging on something as cheap as a pair of Apple ear buds.
That's just like an end of story fact at the moment. Things could change in the future.
At 100 dollars look at the Sennheiser 5xx series.
At 200 look at something like AD700s, Massdrop HD6xx, Phillips Fidelio X2s etc
At 300 you are entering the land of dacs, amps and high end headphones / planar magnetics.
Just use the games default settings for headphones and buy a stereo pair. Imaging will be much better. Check out the youtube clip where they simulate a hair cut. You can hear the imaging on something as cheap as a pair of Apple ear buds.
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7.1? As in 3 speakers on each side + a center? You will never find such a thing in a headphone as there is no way to do a center speaker. Same goes for 5.1 - it's gonna be hugely awkward to hang a speaker directly in front of the user's face.
Best you will find is a high end headphone from one of the major manufacturers.
I play lots of FPS games where positional audio is hugely important and for that I'd recommend the Sennheiser HD 650. Or the HD 600 if you can find it cheaper. These two models will beat a gaming headset every time and in any real test. They're really quite excellent.
And I just used my pair of 650's to know which direction mutants were dropping in from on Metro 2033 no more than 5 minutes ago. Gave me the edge as I knew where to be aiming before they appeared on screen.
Edit: The Sennheiser HD 599's are on sale for $99 right now for cyber monday. Personally I'd jump on those if I were you. https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-H...-SE-Headphone/dp/B07RFNZYJZ/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=hd+599+se&qid=1575323116&sr=8-1
Best you will find is a high end headphone from one of the major manufacturers.
I play lots of FPS games where positional audio is hugely important and for that I'd recommend the Sennheiser HD 650. Or the HD 600 if you can find it cheaper. These two models will beat a gaming headset every time and in any real test. They're really quite excellent.
And I just used my pair of 650's to know which direction mutants were dropping in from on Metro 2033 no more than 5 minutes ago. Gave me the edge as I knew where to be aiming before they appeared on screen.
Edit: The Sennheiser HD 599's are on sale for $99 right now for cyber monday. Personally I'd jump on those if I were you. https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-H...-SE-Headphone/dp/B07RFNZYJZ/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=hd+599+se&qid=1575323116&sr=8-1
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i mean, the center could like vibrate the top of your skull or something? just add the .1 to the head strap (I've said too much, this will totally exist soon now)
either way - I prefer my open cans for gaming. Much better positioning over any headset, or closed ear I've used.
as stated, MD's totally 100% identical Sennie's, or sennie's sennies. Can't remember the other company's open ear I have atm. feel like its KV 7xx or something (totally 100% identical MD version that broke within a week and required lots of soldering and total wire replacement to fix for good, )
either way - I prefer my open cans for gaming. Much better positioning over any headset, or closed ear I've used.
as stated, MD's totally 100% identical Sennie's, or sennie's sennies. Can't remember the other company's open ear I have atm. feel like its KV 7xx or something (totally 100% identical MD version that broke within a week and required lots of soldering and total wire replacement to fix for good, )
Center and sub are actually pretty easy to implement compared to surround channels. Just split center and sub and send to both ears.
How do you make a speaker inside a headphone on your ear create a sound that appears to be coming from behind or from the sides without any software?
With a set of actual 7.1 surround speakers each ear hears sound coming from all 8 speakers, while if you split 7.1 to 5 speakers (front, side, rear, center, sub) per ear, your ears won't hear the sound of the opposite front, side and rear speakers like they do with real 7.1 setup.
For positional sound (in movies) you need to have either actual speakers in the room or software emulated 7.1 HRTF sound with proper delays, reverb, etc. in a good pair of 2.0 headphones(you only have 2 ears anyway). No need for more than 2.0 in headphones, because while in a room with 7.1 speakers you can rotate your ear to change your position relative to sound sources, headphones are always on your head and only need to receive the final mix of sounds with all delays and other stuff already included into sound output.
In video games it's much more preferable to have per-object HRTF sound anyway, so no need to have 7.1 emulation.
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Stereo headphone and locating sound is a matter of getting used to your headphones. I've used closed HD200 Master and they are well narrow soundstage, what else, but damn I could pin point people in CS by sound just fine and track their walking out of sight.
Obviously using an open headphone with drivers more far from your ears will give you bigger soundstage and easier to tell where sounds are coming from.
Avoid all the gamery brands, Logitech, Kingston/HyperX, etc. If it's not sold in a music instruments/gear shop and it's only in PC components shops, it's "gamery" trash most of the time nowadays.
If you want Sennheiser, either the cheap 598SR or what's the name or HD600 with a better cable if you want to spend some. Skip the rest, it's not worth it.
Either way find a headphone store and listen to many yourself.
What exactly do you mean by true 7.1 headphones? If you don't mind me asking.
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Who needs the dirt bike helmet?easy, cans on a classic dirt bike helmet, except the shell is hollow
the audiophalic types will love it !
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The OP is most likely talking about Roccat Kave, Razer Tiamat or the Tritton headsets.
All of those options are pure trash, used a "true" Tritton 5.1 headset years ago and it was so bad that I ended up throwing it to the trash.
Just get good stereo headphones and then set up virtual headphone surround if you REALLY need it. Razer Surround (free software), Dolby Headphones (included with headsets and soundcards), DTS Headphone:X (same), Windows Sonic (free on Windows 10), Creative surround (soundcards), etc.
There are a lot of options available.
All of those options are pure trash, used a "true" Tritton 5.1 headset years ago and it was so bad that I ended up throwing it to the trash.
Just get good stereo headphones and then set up virtual headphone surround if you REALLY need it. Razer Surround (free software), Dolby Headphones (included with headsets and soundcards), DTS Headphone:X (same), Windows Sonic (free on Windows 10), Creative surround (soundcards), etc.
There are a lot of options available.
Exactly this.
I'm using a somewhat decent pair (ATH-M40x) with Equalizer APO and HeSuVi with "hear.wav" HRIR, which sounds more natural than other HRIRs when coming from a pure stereo listening on desktop.
After using virtual surround for quite, pure stereo sounds very weird in some games and music, as many sources are not really designed to be listened to with headphones where channels are isolated from each other.
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and if you need a mic, get a clip on (that's rated for WINDOWS!!!)
boom, you've spent half as much loot on a better experience, with one extra wire!
there are plenty of guides out there on how to bash it all together.
I've been using a mic + amp >> PC for ages now. I need to hear myself in real time thru my cans when they're on, or stuff gets weird. The only way to get that to work (may still be the only way) was to have both devices be USB, or both devices into on-board, or an AIO, which didn't even cross my mind or come up at the time.
boom, you've spent half as much loot on a better experience, with one extra wire
!there are plenty of guides out there on how to bash it all together.
I've been using a mic + amp >> PC for ages now. I need to hear myself in real time thru my cans when they're on, or stuff gets weird. The only way to get that to work (may still be the only way) was to have both devices be USB, or both devices into on-board, or an AIO, which didn't even cross my mind or come up at the time.
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I've had good experiences wit Plantronics RIG headsets. Decided to go with better audio.
Samson SR850
Creative Sound Blaster AE5
Hyper X Quadcast
Even on a budget headphone like the SR850, audio positioning and quality will be soooooo muuuuuccchhh bettterrrrr.
Samson SR850
Creative Sound Blaster AE5
Hyper X Quadcast
Even on a budget headphone like the SR850, audio positioning and quality will be soooooo muuuuuccchhh bettterrrrr.
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So basically the recommendation seems to be getting the Schiit Hel and a good pair of stereo headphones. Is this going to be much better than onboard audio? I have 2.0 speakers but want to sometimes plug a headset in for gaming. I play Fortnite and need something that is good for in game positional audio(footsteps)
Technically no. How precise the positioning is depends on how well the HRTF is suited to you but the variances in human head shape and composition are small enough that most HRTFs built into games or the one built into Windows 10 (Windows Sonic for Headphones) are more than good enough.
Better performing DACs, ADCs, and amplifiers only provide you with a lower noise floor ("blacker background"). Onboard audio will usually have the ideal flat frequency response but will tend to have a relatively high noise floor which can result in the quiet backgrond static/hissing sound when nothing is playing.
Good audio doesn't magically make things sound "better." It only makes thing sound cleaner.
Most people should just get the $8-9 Apple USB-C to 3.5mm headphone adapter. It destroys basically everything south of $150-$200 and is already audibly transparent with a SINAD of 99dB on the DAC + amp stages combined (you need a 96dB SINAD for normal listening conditions and 120dB for extreme listening conditions as well, like sitting in some anechoic chamber. Higher SINADs will result in imperceptible changes so it's really just a better circuit on paper and nothing else). If you're going to be driving high impedance or low sensitivity headphones, maybe the Schiit Hel. Next "upgrade" would be the Khadas Tone Board, Schiit Modi 3, or Topping D30 as the DAC combined with the JDS Labs Element, Schiit Magni Heresy, or Geshelli Labs Archel2 Pro for the headphone amp (or stereo speaker preamp. I don't follow power amplifiers but you won't need one if you get something like the Yamaha HS5/7/8).
For most people I just recommend the Apple USB-C to 3.5mm adapter + Audio-Technica ATH-AD900x (or Sennheisers HD598 if you prefer that sound) and the Monoprice USB-C female to USB-A male adapter if don't have a USB-C port. The ATH-AD900x usually drops to $100 so the total setup costs around $120. If you need a mic, get something like the antlion modmic clones or the samson go mic.
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