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#9,701 ·
MishelLngelo said:
You will not find anything like that in BIOS, GPU has own sensors and fan control not seen in BIOS.
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I recently did a build with an asrock b450m steel legend, there were 3 options available in BIOS for what to take as temperature for any case fan control and one of them was GPU temp. I assumed Asus would have that functionality as well?
 
#9,702 ·
Trivo said:
I recently did a build with an asrock b450m steel legend, there were 3 options available in BIOS for what to take as temperature for any case fan control and one of them was GPU temp. I assumed Asus would have that functionality as well?
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Only an APU can provide GPU sensors to BIOS.
 
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#9,704 ·
Trivo said:
Ok thank you, good to know. Still can you help me find the settings to change the source temperature sensor to a different one on this mobo? Currently all case fans and CPU cooler use some CPU Motherboard sensor which shows a much lower temperature than the one cpu reports in hwinfo.
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What's the reason for what you want ? Do you have a case fan dedicated to help with GPU cooling ?
 
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#9,705 · (Edited)
MishelLngelo said:
What's the reason for what you want ? Do you have a case fan dedicated to help with GPU cooling ?
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The reason is that currently all fans (apart from the GPU one) use a sensor that often reports about 20C less than the actual CPU temp, so I want to change the source temp to either the actual CPU temp or the GPU temp, anything that is accurate. At the moment when on load the CPU/case fans behave as if in idle for the first 1 minute, then this Motherboard CPU temp starts rising and it doesn't even reach the actual CPU temp.

So for example when I archived 46gigs on my work usb thumb drive the other day, cpu tctl temps went to 70c almost instantly, cpu motherboard temps still stay at 40-45C as if it's idle. 1 minute later that sensor also starts rising slowly but it still would get to about 65-70C max while at this point in hwinfo CPU Tctl/Tdie reports 80C+, because fans haven't accelerated at all up to this point. Also I've reproduced this behaviour several times with cinebench for even higher temperatures. The fans just don't respond at all initially when I load the CPU and even after that they still lagging, most importantly the CPU cooler one.

I don't understand why I have to explain why I want a functionality that is there on another brand of motherboard. Does this board have this option in the latest official BIOS or not? Because I feel like I checked thoroughly even in tabs that shouldn't have anything to do with that. On the Asrock steel legend board it was pretty straightforward in the fan control options.
 
#9,706 ·
Sorry but this one as well as it's successor x470 don't have any sensors for dedicated GPU.
 
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#9,707 ·
MishelLngelo said:
Sorry but this one as well as it's successor x470 don't have any sensors for dedicated GPU.
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Why are you trying so hard to trigger me by not answering the thing I asked for several times. If you don't know, just don't write at all. For anyone else: does this board have an option in BIOS, as other brands have, to change the source temperature used for the fan speed curve? Any drop down menu with the available sensors in it? The default one is incorrect and the one I want should be available.

Oh and FYI MishelLngelo with my older BIOS from a year ago and my previous CPU - ryzen 7 1700, the fan curve was working as intended by following exactly the Tctl temp. Now with the latest bios and a ryzen 5 3600, the curve follows the Motherboard CPU reading and the Tctl one is ignored. So don't tell me it is impossible to run based on Tctl reading, it can, it did last year, be it on a different CPU and bios version.
 
#9,708 ·
Trivo said:
Why are you trying so hard to trigger me by not answering the thing I asked for several times. If you don't know, just don't write at all. For anyone else: does this board have an option in BIOS, as other brands have, to change the source temperature used for the fan speed curve? Any drop down menu with the available sensors in it? The default one is incorrect and the one I want should be available.

Oh and FYI MishelLngelo with my older BIOS from a year ago and my previous CPU - ryzen 7 1700, the fan curve was working as intended by following exactly the Tctl temp. Now with the latest bios and a ryzen 5 3600, the curve follows the Motherboard CPU reading and the Tctl one is ignored. So don't tell me it is impossible to run based on Tctl reading, it can, it did last year, be it on a different CPU and bios version.
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I was answering about your query about G (Graphic)PU. Just remembered that there's 2 pins connector at the bottom of MB for another temperature probe, I think that a 10k thermistor can be attached to it and a switch in BIOS to use it as reference for fans adjustment. It's called T_sensor. just bellow Clr_CMOS.
 
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#9,709 ·
MishelLngelo said:
and a switch in BIOS to use it as reference for fans adjustment.
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This is pretty much what I've been asking for for the last three posts. So for the fourth time: where in the latest BIOS is this switch if it exists? On the Asrock motherboard I worked with it was a drop down menu in the fan control panel with all/any available sensors that can function as source for fan speed (there were 3 of them). Where is this functionality/drop down menu/switch located, here, in BIOS v5220.
 
#9,711 ·
corky dorkelson said:
Trivo,

Please avoid being so rude to people that are trying to help you. MishelLngelo isn't trying to "trigger" you, and you are not being kind in return.
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Apologies, I'll keep my temper in check and be polite. In any case, if anyone knows, please point me to where to find it, if there is such an option. Feels like I tried all available tabs and categories in BIOS trying to find this, and it should have been in the fan control panel.
 
#9,713 ·
Lucky72 said:
You can find it in Monitor Menu/Q-Fan/Chassis Fan Source, or in chapter 3 of the user manual.
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Wrong, i mean this problem is exatly what he explanin default CPU temp is taken by motherboard and not by TCL sensor, you can use another sensor ONLY for CHassis Fan but NOT for CPU fan ... so your only solution is use another fan on the cpu connector a set it to like 40% till max temp so you dont ear it spiking and connect your cpu fan to a chassis fan and then you can use another sensor as source
 
#9,714 ·
Shouldn't CPU cooler's fan(s) speed be regulated by CPU temperature according to CPU's sensor ?
 
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#9,715 · (Edited)
Trivo said:
I'm trying to change the source temperature for my case fans and tie them to the GPU temperature. How do I go about doing that on this board, bios v.5220? Seems like I searched all of the bios settings but can't find this option. Help, ty.
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Take a look at https://www.argusmonitor.com/en/index.php Speedfan unfortunately does not support prime x370 pro.

MishelLngelo said:
Shouldn't CPU cooler's fan(s) speed be regulated by CPU temperature according to CPU's sensor ?
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Not if you have custom watercooling for cpu&gpu it is quite usefull if you can bind it to both temperatures. Additionally you can have a temperature probe next to VRM and bind a fan to that temperature... RAM as well
 
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#9,716 ·
If you look here and expand the images, this guy reckons he had a conversation with an Asus rep online who confirmed that there will be no more BIOS for this board or any X370 board.


However I don't fully believe it because there are other x370 boards from Asus which have the new Agesa. So I'm still hopeful it will eventually arrive.
 
#9,717 ·
Trivo said:
Why are you trying so hard to trigger me by not answering the thing I asked for several times. If you don't know, just don't write at all. For anyone else: does this board have an option in BIOS, as other brands have, to change the source temperature used for the fan speed curve? Any drop down menu with the available sensors in it? The default one is incorrect and the one I want should be available.

Oh and FYI MishelLngelo with my older BIOS from a year ago and my previous CPU - ryzen 7 1700, the fan curve was working as intended by following exactly the Tctl temp. Now with the latest bios and a ryzen 5 3600, the curve follows the Motherboard CPU reading and the Tctl one is ignored. So don't tell me it is impossible to run based on Tctl reading, it can, it did last year, be it on a different CPU and bios version.
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With the latest BIOS, fan settings only work on CPU fan. They worked with older BIOS, not now though.

Wasted 90 mins trying to tone down a 4500RPM finger chopper. Note: They are still spinning after unplugged!

Fan settings are in the monitor section.
 
#9,718 · (Edited)
4 memory modules work fine with 1700 X370-pro as 32GB dual rank DJR Hynix and 16B single rank B-die Samsung.

Right now with 48GB as 8+8 single rank plus 16+16 dual rank in daisy-chain topology board. Passes memtest without errors. CPU 1700 (non X; X have slightly better memory controller or fabric or both).

RAM is 8+8 GB single rank g.skill 3200-14 Samsung B-die, 20nm best but costly.
Just added 16+16 GB dual rank g.skill 3600-16 Hynix DJR-die, latest 17nm supposed to be almost as good as B-die.
Thaiphoon burner 16.1.1 confirms DJR.

MB is Asus Prime x370-Pro with BIOS 5008 (2019 AGESA 1.0.0.2). All BIOS settings on Auto except RAM 1.35 volt.
MB defaults to 1866-13 which is almost as good as 3200-22 (1866/13 = 143 = 3200/22). Haven't started to overclock yet.
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Update: one memory module was running hot. After swapping it to the outer socket, 3066-14 and 3133-14 became stable.
This Hynix DJR (getting 3133-14) is nearly as good as B-die (got to 3200-14) on 1st gen Ryzen with Prime X370-Pro.
 
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#9,719 ·
Just to share my experience as I've been using this topic as source of info for quite some time but never posted anything :)

More than a year and half ago when I got this board I tried some simple overclocking on CORSAIR 2x4GB Vengeance LPX DDR4 3000MHz CL15 (CMK8GX4M2B3000C15 Hynix AFR Single Rank) but it was unstable with xmp loaded @.3000mhz all the way down to 2666mhz. CPU is Ryzen 2400G and BIOS is 4207. I didn't mess with dram timings then so I just left it at 2666mhz as it was rock solid. Yesterday I decided to try using DRam calculator and now it's running at 3000mhz 14 16 17 30 42 1T from the first try.
I set dram voltage to 1.38v from start and I plan to leave like that for now as it appears to have decent cooling. It passed memtest, I did some light gaming and so far it's not crashing.
In the near future I plan to upgrade to 16gb of ram. Since this is T-topology board I was thinking of acquiring another kit of the same version to get total of 16gb but I'm seeing some mixed info about this on the internet because apparently even though this is T Topology board having 4 DIMMS would put additional stress on IMC so it wouldn't matter in the end and I could end up topped out at 2666 or 2400mhz. Anyway, if I go that route I'll post the results here.
 
#9,720 ·
opethdisciple said:
If you look here and expand the images, this guy reckons he had a conversation with an Asus rep online who confirmed that there will be no more BIOS for this board or any X370 board.


However I don't fully believe it because there are other x370 boards from Asus which have the new Agesa. So I'm still hopeful it will eventually arrive.
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Looks like ASUS abandoned the X370-Pro. 5406 Beta build date was around 17/11 and two months later no stable version was released. Never seem a beta BIOS last this long.
 
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