[AnandTech] NVIDIA Intros DLSS 2.0: Ditches Per-Game Training, Adds Motion Vectors for Better Quality
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The game looks awful even on native. Wolfenstein: Youngblood would be a better showcase.
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Still looks a lot better than native and the blurry as hell AA.
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The showcase, in this instance, is relevant because it can compare then vs now. Youngblood was good from the get-go.
In any case, I also am quite impressed. Some scenes look straight up better than native.
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True that. Control looks awful no matter what I did. Even 4K native looks terrible.
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Quite bad, oversharpened and clearly lower resolution. While the video has tons of scaling and compression, native recording res supposedly 1440p but uploads 2880p ==> it has been scaled in editing.
Original uncompressed screenshots are the way to go or link original very high bitrate clips. Comparing fine details on YT videos is almost impossible.
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I watch the video. Who said it just as good if not better then native? I paused the video in many places and Native is by far superior.
I think people are watching the video on a smaller non 4K screen which makes the DLSS sharper darker textures look better once downscaled.
I am watching the video with OLED 55" 4K and Native is by far superior. I am also one of those people that complained a lot about how Control looks in general.
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But it mostly compares DLSS 2.0 with 1.0. I also tried in-game myself and it's pretty hard to spot the difference between native and DLSS 2.0 except that DLSS 2.0 looks sharper and less blurry.
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Because Control features tons of motion blur and awful AA.
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quite a difference... game still looks like fuzzy ass.
go to the scene where they show the office with books & desk items. Left is way smoother, and consistent.
though some people like soft, n some people like sharp. DLS2.0 is definitely soft.
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The game looks blurry with or without DLSS lol. It's just the way it is. I played it without it when it was released and always thought it looked soft as hell.
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The graphics of this game bothered me for some reason. Even with 2080 Ti I just never could get it to look right.
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I think it’s all the garbage post-processing at play. Copious amounts of motion blur along with a grainy effect that you can’t turn off. Then add in the soft edges even at native res and you have a game that looks soft and blurry all around.
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I'm guessing the softness, grain and motion blur are artistic decisions on the part of Remedy that defines the overall look and mood of the game.
DLSS 2.0 on Deliver Us The Moon, Wolfenstein Youngblood and Mechwarrior 5 Mercenaries isn't anything like that.
DLSS 2.0 on Deliver Us The Moon, Wolfenstein Youngblood and Mechwarrior 5 Mercenaries isn't anything like that.
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Can't comment on the look of Control, I'm waiting until all these patches are out and then will play it 
I'm more of a disable motion blur, DOF and other nonsense effects including often even AA. Then lumasharpen it if necessary such as if the AA is adding too much blur and game has no fine sharpening itself. Or just write my own shader if none exist or it's poor quality to fix some issue.
So even if Control looks meh there are very likely ways to fix the issues, either ingame options or add ReShade and adjust it with shaders.
If one can't turn off motion blur and other crappy blur effects, that sure sucks.
It will not look as good as or better than native, not with the current GPU performance. It could get close and fake it's way around with sharpening, which is what Nvidia seems to be applying heavily and very obviously to even get a usable image. I would rather have not sharpened DLSS output and then apply what ever sharpening and how much sharpening I want, not be stuck with some ugly heavy obvious/artifacting sharpening that NV likes to use.
I'm more of a disable motion blur, DOF and other nonsense effects including often even AA. Then lumasharpen it if necessary such as if the AA is adding too much blur and game has no fine sharpening itself. Or just write my own shader if none exist or it's poor quality to fix some issue.
So even if Control looks meh there are very likely ways to fix the issues, either ingame options or add ReShade and adjust it with shaders.
If one can't turn off motion blur and other crappy blur effects, that sure sucks.
It will not look as good as or better than native, not with the current GPU performance. It could get close and fake it's way around with sharpening, which is what Nvidia seems to be applying heavily and very obviously to even get a usable image. I would rather have not sharpened DLSS output and then apply what ever sharpening and how much sharpening I want, not be stuck with some ugly heavy obvious/artifacting sharpening that NV likes to use.
nVidia is working on a user-adjustable sharpness setting for DLSS.Can't comment on the look of Control, I'm waiting until all these patches are out and then will play it
I'm more of a disable motion blur, DOF and other nonsense effects including often even AA. Then lumasharpen it if necessary such as if the AA is adding too much blur and game has no fine sharpening itself. Or just write my own shader if none exist or it's poor quality to fix some issue.
So even if Control looks meh there are very likely ways to fix the issues, either ingame options or add ReShade and adjust it with shaders.
If one can't turn off motion blur and other crappy blur effects, that sure sucks.
It will not look as good as or better than native, not with the current GPU performance. It could get close and fake it's way around with sharpening, which is what Nvidia seems to be applying heavily and very obviously to even get a usable image. I would rather have not sharpened DLSS output and then apply what ever sharpening and how much sharpening I want, not be stuck with some ugly heavy obvious/artifacting sharpening that NV likes to use.
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Both can be disabled. I really liked the visuals of that game. Its jaw dropping
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Hurray. Especially since they already have their heavy handed sharpen shader with adjustment in the driver
But somehow they had to force enable it for DLSS so that all reviewers are happy and don't complain DLSS is blurry ad infinitum.dantoddd: thx, that's good news to me.
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Motion blur can't be completely turned off unless you tweak the game files.
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