MSI MEG X570 Unify Overclocking & Discussion Thread

blackguard · Oct 4, 2020

Unknown - I didn't test because thermal performance wasn't my concern. I only added them because I was getting high-pitched resonance when I switched from Kryonaut to Conductonaut, and it was bothering me whenever the noise floor in my room dropped too low. This let me make slight pressure adjustments that eliminated the resonance... or at least tuned it beyond my hearing range.

mongoled · Oct 5, 2020

Anyone doing BCLK overclocking on this board ?

Whats max stable BCLK you have reached ??

Spilly44 · Oct 5, 2020

Weird.I got that as well when the bottom 2 bolts where not tightened enough.
prob pump resonating on the mounting.
John

happydog · Oct 6, 2020

Hello!
Has anyone had a problem with (F4-3600C18D-16GTZR or related GSKILL) with XMP 3600? My monitor won't turn on the first start in the morning (keyboard, mouse, all rgb etc. yes.) during the day works well if I shut down / reset. But the first start of the day NEVER works well.
Tried with DRAM Calculator values and didnt boot.(safe)
Now im triyng 3200 xmp to see if it works well. Should i try AMD OC instead of XMP? Im new to this..
Another thing would be, if it was not possible to put the ram at 3600, could I leave it at 3200 cl14 or smt? Would I get a good performance?
I am using 3900x 2x16GB G.Skill 32 GB F4-3600C18D-16GTZR
Any kind of help is welcome, thanks you.

CPU-Z
CPU
MEMORY
SPD
Thaiphoon
DRAM Calculator recommended values SAFE 3600 ||| 3200 SAFE
RYZEN MASTER (1) (2)
none of them work

Please excuse the typos / grammar, doing my best :/

Scoty · Oct 6, 2020

Eder said:
New beta bios with unlocked cbs+pbs mod

thx working good.

KedarWolf · Oct 6, 2020

Eder said:
New beta bios mod testing and incoming

@Eder Did you manage to look at the AGESA 1.0.0.5 BIOS you unlocked for me that has the two menus still locked I shared pictures of with you?

I ask because it's the only BIOS I can even boot 3800MHz on and I get great timings with it.

It the 7C34v193 Godlike BIOS you unlocked.

Edit: And find the AGESA 1.0.0.5 Unify BIOS Eder shared, peeps. It has the best memory overclocking I have ever tried so far. Every other BIOS I can only do 3733.

mongoled · Oct 6, 2020

Will also be joining this club

Will probably take up to 10 days to get here from Germany, was going to get the Tomahawk, but the lack of several features pushed me the Unify

blackguard · Oct 6, 2020

happydog said:
Hello!
Has anyone had a problem with (F4-3600C18D-16GTZR or related GSKILL) with XMP 3600? My monitor won't turn on the first start in the morning (keyboard, mouse, all rgb etc. yes.) during the day works well if I shut down / reset. But the first start of the day NEVER works well.
Tried with DRAM Calculator values and didnt boot.(safe)
Now im triyng 3200 xmp to see if it works well. Should i try AMD OC instead of XMP? Im new to this..
Another thing would be, if it was not possible to put the ram at 3600, could I leave it at 3200 cl14 or smt? Would I get a good performance?
I am using 3900x 2x16GB G.Skill 32 GB F4-3600C18D-16GTZR
Any kind of help is welcome, thanks you.

CPU-Z
CPU
MEMORY
SPD
Thaiphoon
DRAM Calculator recommended values SAFE 3600 ||| 3200 SAFE
RYZEN MASTER (1) (2)
none of them work

Please excuse the typos / grammar, doing my best :/

Go with 3600 XMP for now and make sure it sets voltage to 1.35V correctly. If it doesn't, set it to 1.35V manually. Alternately, it's entirely possible the system isn't providing enough voltage on a cold boot. Bump it up to 1.4V and see if that helps.
You don't have to worry about killing your ram since JEDEC specification says DDR4 needs to safely take up to 1.5V (though the JEDEC spec doesn't say anything about it having to be stable, so don't go overboard).

rares495 · Oct 6, 2020

mongoled said:
Will also be joining this club

Will probably take up to 10 days to get here from Germany, was going to get the Tomahawk, but the lack of several features pushed me the Unify

Good choice. The Unify is a better board.

DaniloFerracini · Oct 6, 2020

Using a old bios (from the end of last year, AGESA 1.0.0.4 A20) I was able to get 3800cl15 24/7 stable with these settings and using 1.45v, the only thing I did was use the attached manual profile and increase the voltage , however after updating the bios, my pc doesn't even boot when trying to 3800cl15, I messed with ProdcODT and CAD_BUS a little, but without success. Could someone give me some light ???

KedarWolf · Oct 6, 2020

DaniloFerracini said:
Using a old bios (from the end of last year, AGESA 1.0.0.4 A20) I was able to get 3800cl15 24/7 stable with these settings and using 1.45v, the only thing I did was use the attached manual profile and increase the voltage , however after updating the bios, my pc doesn't even boot when trying to 3800cl15, I messed with ProdcODT and CAD_BUS a little, but without success. Could someone give me some light ???

View attachment 2461162 View attachment 2461163

Try the A4.2 beta. The latest AGESA 1.0.0.5 BIOS.

MEG X570 UNIFY (MS7C35)

Asus ROG RAMPAGE VI EXTREME Bios & Drivers

www.station-drivers.com

I get the below with it which is amazing, TM5 25 Cycles stable. And with a 100.45 BLCK as well.

Spilly44 · Oct 6, 2020

Have tried A42 and go mem down to 15,16,15 at 3800
However for some reason on A42 the 3950x gets much hotter and I noticed the LLC menu has changed so maybe that's it
Does anyone know what value MSIs auto actually is?John

DaniloFerracini · Oct 7, 2020

KedarWolf said:
Try the A4.2 beta. The latest AGESA 1.0.0.5 BIOS.

MEG X570 UNIFY (MS7C35)

Asus ROG RAMPAGE VI EXTREME Bios & Drivers

www.station-drivers.com

I get the below with it which is amazing, TM5 25 Cycles stable. And with a 100.45 BLCK as well.

View attachment 2461165

I rollback to A4.2 (from A60) but I still can't get 3800cl15.

With your parameters I can't boot. It looks like my board is kind of sensitive to RTT values

I found a print of AIDA and the bios I could get 3800cl15 with easily was the A20, however I also tried the A20 and I couldn't, I don't remember exactly the parameters I used, I just used the DRAM Calc fast profile and climbed ov to 1.45, however the newer versions of the program are geared towards the new AGESA and I don't think the old versions. I put A4.2 back on the recommendations, but I'm not getting it. 3800cl16 is still good, however it is kind of frustrating to know that I could do better and not do as before.
Below the prints from before (A60) and now (A4.2).

Any tips?

mongoled · Oct 7, 2020

rares495 said:
Good choice. The Unify is a better board.

For sure,

however as I required 5 SATA ports, I simply decided to buy a 2nd cheapo NVME drive rather than get the Tomahawk that had 6 SATA ports but is missing certain features ...

Can wait to see the improvements in overclocking 4 x A2 Vipers, I also bought a set of A0 Vipers (4000 mhz) just incase!

Also I expect to see better CPU clocks.

My main concern is BCLK, no one has answered my question regards BCLK overclocking on this board, hopefully it will play nice

mongoled · Oct 7, 2020

KedarWolf said:
Try the A4.2 beta. The latest AGESA 1.0.0.5 BIOS.

MEG X570 UNIFY (MS7C35)

Asus ROG RAMPAGE VI EXTREME Bios & Drivers

www.station-drivers.com

I get the below with it which is amazing, TM5 25 Cycles stable. And with a 100.45 BLCK as well.

View attachment 2461165

Whoop, missed your reply.

Yup, ive seen your BCLK before, but its hardly anything, not that you need it with a 3950X

But with a 3600, having the ability to push 107.5625 while using PBO with EDC@2 turns the 3600 into a monster 6 core CPU

DaniloFerracini · Oct 7, 2020

I got 3800cl15 again, it was all about the procODT and CAD_Bus, as I wasn't finding an old build of the DRam calculator I didn't know what parameters worked with me, I managed to find 1.7.0 and saw what worked.
Would these parameters work in a newer BIOS? I heard that depending on the BIOS the Cad_Bus and procODT change a lot ...

Eder · Oct 8, 2020

KedarWolf said:
@Eder Did you manage to look at the AGESA 1.0.0.5 BIOS you unlocked for me that has the two menus still locked I shared pictures of with you?

I ask because it's the only BIOS I can even boot 3800MHz on and I get great timings with it.

It the 7C34v193 Godlike BIOS you unlocked.

Edit: And find the AGESA 1.0.0.5 Unify BIOS Eder shared, peeps. It has the best memory overclocking I have ever tried so far. Every other BIOS I can only do 3733.

I am crazy busy at work because of second corona wave in my country. I have some free time next week so I'll contact you then.

KedarWolf · Oct 8, 2020

Eder said:
I am crazy busy at work because of second corona wave in my country. I have some free time next week so I'll contact you then.

Okay, thank you. It's a difficult time.

DarknightOCR · Oct 8, 2020

well, get off the 9900k to come to the ryzen.
the objective is to buy the 5800x when they reach
until then I will play with the 3600X

it seems to be stable as it is.
but I also only have a few hours with this set up

ArcticNinja · Oct 9, 2020

MartinJones said:
Have you had any issues with the Nahimic software? In the Microsoft store there's a lot of people complaining it doesn't work...

Nahimic is absolute trash. All it's good for is crashing other programs that aren't even related to it. I had to do a full windows reinstall and manually install all my software being sure not to install nahimic. Once it's on your computer it's really hard to get it off.

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