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#1,621 · (Edited)
Ufasas said:
Hm, i still see some 710s and 718s around ebay/amazon, hmm, how would you compare the shape to Sensei/Sensei RAW/Sensei Ten, i had raw, but it got too ugly and deterioriated, i found Sensei 10 on ebay for cheaper than 710/718 haha
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Not sure, i only have the Rival 110, can compare to that. The old 718BF is much thicker and the bump is more towards the back. The 710F and siblings are somewhat flatter. The Rival is even more flat. Out of these 3, the 718BF fits my palm perfectly when palm grip, while still can claw grip it. The Rival i can't palm grip, my hand is wide. However, the Steelseries mice, both Sensei and Rival, have superior sensors. Unfortunately people's hands are just as varied as their faces, you have to feel it for yourself. But if the sensor precision is of more importance to you than the perfect grip, go with the Sensei. The Sensei/RAW has 3330 i think , the Sensei 10 has their TrueMove (custom 3320 or 3330) , same as the Rival 110 has. The old A4tech Oscar has either 3305 ( angle snapping, acceleration) or 3060/3080 (angle snapping) , these will only do at low DPI. The 3305 also has a low tracking speed of 1.3-1.6 m/s , the worst of the three sensors. Back then , when i was playing planetside 2, used a pair of Bloody v8(3305) and ZL5(A9800). The V8 for regular infantry (also did a little cheat with the Headshot macros :) ) and the ZL5 for long range sniper, since i couldn't snipe with the 3305. Good o'days.
 
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#1,622 ·
adacsaba said:
Not sure, i only have the Rival 110, can compare to that. The old 718BF is much thicker and the bump is more towards the back. The 710F and siblings are somewhat flatter. The Rival is even more flat. Out of these 3, the 718BF fits my palm perfectly when palm grip, while still can claw grip it. The Rival i can't palm grip, my hand is wide. However, the Steelseries mice, both Sensei and Rival, have superior sensors. Unfortunately people's hands are just as varied as their faces, you have to feel it for yourself. But if the sensor precision is of more importance to you than the perfect grip, go with the Sensei. The Sensei/RAW has 3330 i think , the Sensei 10 has their TrueMove (custom 3320 or 3330) , same as the Rival 110 has. The old A4tech Oscar has either 3305 ( angle snapping, acceleration) or 3060/3080 (angle snapping) , these will only do at low DPI. The 3305 also has a low tracking speed of 1.3-1.6 m/s , the worst of the three sensors. Back then , when i was playing planetside 2, used a pair of Bloody v8(3305) and ZL5(A9800). The V8 for regular infantry (also did a little cheat with the Headshot macros :) ) and the ZL5 for long range sniper, since i couldn't snipe with the 3305. Good o'days.
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Good to read about 718, I will not forget that mouse, and probably will wait for it dirty cheap only, not willing to pay 30$+ when there are so many nicer options. Well owning R110 too, seems like i can get used to that shape, just need short time, but i like the taller bump of kana v2 in the middle more, though higher bump towards back (like EG Morpha) is also very comfortable, flatter stuff would be less favourable. Seems Sensei 10 keeps that taller bump, and has not a 3320/3330, but Truemove Pro, it's evolution of Truemove3, that's their version of 3360/3389 like sensors, guess I'll go for less downsides, more durability and performance, I am getting Sensei 10 for 3x cheaper from ebay, I heard lift of distance also decent - 2 DVDs or so, that's perfect, sorted!
 
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adacsaba said:
And regardless what the one free man thinks it's just one device, it's actually a total of 12 mice, 3 keyboards, 2 headsets i had from them. The P30 Pro mouse is great, light, comfortable and precise. The B975 keyboard is one of the finest, replaces now my Orion G910 Spectrum . Their G502 headset is as good as any with the C-Media CM6400 chip (it has hardware DSP actually).
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I was under the impression you where a Bloody™ fanboy, you already have 2 "reviews" in one page here, but unlike you I don't write stuff I'm not sure about.
Since you didn't understand the meaning of the sentence (no wonder :D) I'll rephrase: no matter how much stuff one person buys, he's just one person and therefore irrelevant for the company sales-wise.
12 mice from Bloody/a4tech? I don't now if it's more sad or comical.. and you're actually are surprised if they're bad? Lol well considering you understand the exact opposite of everything you read that actually makes sense.
Btw headsets lol? Instead of throwing away your money maybe use it on an actual pair of headphones and a mic?
But who am I kidding, if you got to this point it's pretty unrealistic to think you might ever learn something.

adacsaba said:
Back then , when i was playing planetside 2, used a pair of Bloody v8(3305) and ZL5(A9800). The V8 for regular infantry (also did a little cheat with the Headshot macros :) ) and the ZL5 for long range sniper, since i couldn't snipe with the 3305. Good o'days.
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Rofl blatantly admits to CHEATING as if he doesn't even realize what he's doing. @Melan nailed it, guess the macros are the only selling point of this stuff. And here's a guy that bough 12 mice from them :D and goes around making "mouse reviews" with near 0 understanding of the tech. No wonder someone who plays with cheat macros thinks the mercury/hero are super accurate, I was spot on with the lack of fine motor skills. (it was supposed to be an exageration/joke.. oh well :D)
It's mind boggling that people like you have so little self awareness they actually come and write "mouse reviews" or talk smack to people correcting them.
 
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the1freeMan said:
I was under the impression you where a Bloody™ fanboy, you already have 2 "reviews" in one page here, but unlike you I don't write stuff I'm not sure about.
Since you didn't understand the meaning of the sentence (no wonder :D) I'll rephrase: no matter how much stuff one person buys, he's just one person and therefore irrelevant for the company sales-wise.
12 mice from Bloody/a4tech? I don't now if it's more sad or comical..
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I got 4 from logi because of sensor, 4 from steels because of shape, and 3-4 from razer, cause of shape, lol, it is comical when you try to explain to friends, i like that connection, for funzies, but i also i use them all, not just collecting.

It's hard to track all of the specs and sensors nowadays, they spread them so many, i am too lazy to open the datasheet myself, i'm not encyclopedia either, but had my time researching, long and boring activity...

Got an offer of msi gm40 for 22.99, mice with 3310 sensor usually have the worst shapes, i can't even, 3360/3389 have hogged all the best shapes... this is one of the better ones though... will counter offer, will see if i can get it for a bit less, shame i can't compare its shape with x-710 right now..
 
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AloneInTheDuck said:
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nope. Maybe unpopular opinion, but i think all nowadays pixart sensor is a crap. Best mouses i ever had is kinzu v1 (VT5366) deathadder 3g/3.5g (S3668, S3888 ) Microsoft 1.1 intelli (MLT04) the first deathadder 1800 dpi (not mention in list, so i dont know which sensor was in it) if there any mouse in market close to these with not **** pixart sensor 33xx tell me asap.
 
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of course everybody is entitled to an opinion, @the1freeMan, no offense, none taken

One of the definitions of "cheating" by Oxford Languages: "act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage".

These can be purchased through official channels, it's not prohibited or black market hardware, nor does it apply as hack or exploit (in opposite to aimbot software for example ). It's fun of it's own to create the recoil compensation algorithms then use.
 
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@Marek998 , Logitech's AM010 ? The G402 "Hyperion Fury" (stupid name) ain't that bad at all. Actually, feels quite "natural" to boot.

But then why do you hate Pixart so much ?
 
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adacsaba said:
But then why do you hate Pixart so much ?
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Have loads of people whom despise Pixart in general. All of their sensors were utter garbage for any serious gamer. That is hard to ignore today, that earlier experience is still with those that remember clearly how awful that company was in providing some of the world's worst sensor tech.

It shall be their ongoing legacy that is hard to forget during 2021 and beyond......

The most decent sensor ever produced was the MLT04, without doubt. Nothing comes even close to it in serious Gaming today.
 
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btw DA 3G/3.5G ( S3668/S3888 ) are from Avago ... but maybe produced from pixart also at that time ... both shared many designs, license, patents ... and 3080/3090 were also produced from pixart ...
btw he react to a post from Aug 27, 2017 ... with his 1st post here ...
maybe he likes Phillips Twin Eye more ?
btw at the time of the MLT04 I prefered my ballmouse
 
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Ufasas said:
I got 4 from logi because of sensor, 4 from steels because of shape, and 3-4 from razer, cause of shape, lol, it is comical when you try to explain to friends, i like that connection, for funzies, but i also i use them all, not just collecting.
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Many people here have 10 , 20 or 30 plus mouses, while it is funny to explain to non mouse enthusiasts, what I meant is that's it's ridiculous to invest that much money supporting a company like Bloody that is all about gimmicky marketing / aesthetics and macro software, with performance being last on their list.

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thread's live once more, that's a good thing

One of the definitions of "cheating" by Oxford Languages: "act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage".

These can be purchased through official channels, it's not prohibited or black market hardware, nor does it apply as hack or exploit (in opposite to aimbot software for example ). It's fun of it's own to create the recoil compensation algorithms then use.
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"Recoil macros are not cheating" :D keep telling yourself that. That's such a stereotypical cheater mentality.
Let's spell it out for you: software that moves the mouse for you in order to compensate for stuff that throws off your aim, like recoil, in order to get an advantage over other players is indeed unfair, therefore cheating. I'm sure you know that but you just have to make excuses.

In the meanwhile mouse enthusiasts research to understand technology in order to have the most accurate equipment for reproducing hand movement and you're like: "It's fun to write elementary school level code to make the mouse move on it's own.
Not for testing purposes, no no no but to get an advantage over other players and it's totally legit ey, absolutely not cheating! I bought it from a Chinese company that makes mouses with metal armor boots"

Also, if there's any thread that doesn't need activity it's this one, as it's just supposed to be a list..

EDIT: I just realized the bloody software requires no coding at all to do recoil scripts.. :D so fun indeed.. don't even have to learn or figure out anything! "Algorithms" btw.. this guy..

@Ufasas See, this is what I mean when I say "I don't know if it's more sad or comical"

Elrick said:
Have loads of people whom despise Pixart in general. All of their sensors were utter garbage for any serious gamer. That is hard to ignore today, that earlier experience is still with those that remember clearly how awful that company was in providing some of the world's worst sensor tech.

It shall be their ongoing legacy that is hard to forget during 2021 and beyond......

The most decent sensor ever produced was the MLT04, without doubt. Nothing comes even close to it in serious Gaming today.
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roach 2.0
"omg the paw3305 ENTRY LEVEL sensor from 10 years ago was bad so pixart is crap. The 400cpi sensor with 1 pixel deadzone and 1.5m/s pcs is the absolute best ever."
(I love the capital G in gaming btw..)

Marek998 said:
nope. Maybe unpopular opinion, but i think all nowadays pixart sensor is a crap. Best mouses i ever had is kinzu v1 (VT5366) deathadder 3g/3.5g (S3668, S3888 ) Microsoft 1.1 intelli (MLT04) the first deathadder 1800 dpi (not mention in list, so i dont know which sensor was in it) if there any mouse in market close to these with not **** pixart sensor 33xx tell me asap.
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The DA 1800cpi is the 3g. It's sensor was made by Avago. Pixart bought Avago's rights to manufacture the sensors and all the stuff they're producing today is based on the same exact tech.
The kinzu sensor was a joke, ridiculous angle snapping and lots of random acceleration with large variation between different mice.
Again the 336x is very close to the 3080/90 variants you mention and is their natural evolution, so it's actually the close thing you're asking for.
(lol)
 
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the1freeMan said:
Not for testing purposes, no no no but to get an advantage over other players and it's totally legit ey, absolutely not cheating! I bought it from a Chinese company that makes mouses with metal armor boots"
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Here's the kicker tho. These macros are Pay-2-Use. When you buy the mouse, you only get a sampler :)
A4 Tech actually has a store button on the macro page lmao.

Page 7 and 8 of the review have this explained.
 
#1,633 · (Edited)
Got the gm40 by MSI, boy it's close to a4 tech, it's so close, i am freaking out, and it's not making me claw grip that shape as much as sensei ten does, palmgripping as hell, sides are deeper, something like x710 has, but sensor, coating (though gathers lots of fingerprints), absence of rubber much better :) nostalgia.

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Ufasas said:
Got the gm40 by MSI, boy it's close to a4 tech, it's so close, i am freaking out, and it's not making me claw grip that shape as much as sensei ten does, palmgripping as hell, sides are deeper, something like x710 has, but sensor, coating (though gathers lots of fingerprints), absence of rubber much better :) nostalgia.

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hey so I'm under the impression the steel series xai is the only mouse I'm gonna use i saw 1 online for 100 medal of honor edition can any of you tell me if ur willing to give 1 up ill do overnight dead serious i need a steelseries xai or i wont game. peroioid.
 
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Exelzzx said:
hey so I'm under the impression the steel series xai is the only mouse I'm gonna use i saw 1 online for 100 medal of honor edition can any of you tell me if ur willing to give 1 up ill do overnight dead serious i need a steelseries xai or i wont game. peroioid.
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duuno mate i retired all laser mice, i don't like, they weren't consistent for me on any pad, maybe good for others, like logitech g9x / g9, i knew people still played good with g9s, last laser mouse saw Sensei Raw Laser, it could have been better, now Sensei Ten is just like I wanted Sensei Raw to be. Wouldn't touch any xai/sensei with laser, only optical
 
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