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#121 ·
any update on the new official bios 7D28vA6 ?? Any improvements to mem clocking or anything interesting to speak of?
 
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Discussion starter · #122 ·
My 6800 setting needed to go from 1.45 / 1.42 Q to 1.45 / 1.43 Q but further nothing new for me.
 
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#124 ·
do you really need that much vcore for 5.3 on your KS?
 
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#127 ·
Ken A said:
That vcore is for your idle, maybe you didn't set the CPU lite load?

Does 54x hit 100C?
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what does CPU LITE LOAD option actually do in the bios? Ive never adjusted that option either
 
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newls1 said:
what does CPU LITE LOAD option actually do in the bios? Ive never adjusted that option either
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The combination of both control the voltage. I don't have full details, but I have noted here is that DC_LL should match LLC, so
LLC8 use DC_LL96, LLC7 use DC_LL 69, LLC6 use DC_LL 56 LLC5 use DC_LL 40, LLC4 DC_LL 28, LLC3 DC_LL 12
Then I noticed low value of AC_LL yield to high idle vcore while higher value give better balance for high load and low load.
I am using LLC6 with AC_LL 30 and DC_LL 56

This link explain well
 
#131 ·
Vld said:
Got lite load set at 3, works well. Got really interested about explaination you wrote about lite load, could you please share aome more details, bios setting ?
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Basically you want it stable when idling, light load, variable load and heavy load. When you test with heavy load like P95, the setting doesn't affect much as long as you provide enough voltage.
Depending on the load, CPU will request more or less current from VRM and then a bad setting will cause instability under variable load.

In case you are planning to stay with fixed frequency for all core, probably you don't need to worry with any of this.

Initially I was using LLC6 with DC 56 and AC 30, but then couldn't get stable because when I give low voltage, it was crashing when trying CB R23 in single-thread and sometimes testing with y-cruncher. Increasing voltage was affecting performance for P95 due to higher temperature.
Currently I have the following settings:
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Since your CPU is KS, probably you can give a shot with +4 for P-Core... Or use Turbo Ratio and make your own choice
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Although I wrote above it should match LLC and for my LLC 7 supposed to be 69, I am testing with 80. I have a ticket open with MSI requesting the values of the resistence for each LLC and in case they reply, I will post later.
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For CPU voltage I am using:
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And voltage offset:
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On my system, when I use AC low like 5, usually I need to give a positive offset of around 0.050v and for AC high like 60 a negative offset of around 0.050

Then I test with:
  • CB R23 multi-thread and single thread (let repeat 4 or 5 times)
  • y-cruncher (repeat few times)
  • P95 with AVX enabled and disabled (with all the threads and 1 thread)
Then I try to find the lowest offset that can get running P95 multi-thread with the lowest temp and then I check if system is still stable for other tests.

Usually I watch the graph for the vid, current, power using hwinfo:
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I am still learning and also testing for myself, so above is just a reference to get you started.
 
#132 ·
Ken A said:
Basically you want it stable when idling, light load, variable load and heavy load. When you test with heavy load like P95, the setting doesn't affect much as long as you provide enough voltage.
Depending on the load, CPU will request more or less current from VRM and then a bad setting will cause instability under variable load.

In case you are planning to stay with fixed frequency for all core, probably you don't need to worry with any of this.

Initially I was using LLC6 with DC 56 and AC 30, but then couldn't get stable because when I give low voltage, it was crashing when trying CB R23 in single-thread and sometimes testing with y-cruncher. Increasing voltage was affecting performance for P95 due to higher temperature.
Currently I have the following settings:
View attachment 2566802
Since your CPU is KS, probably you can give a shot with +4 for P-Core... Or use Turbo Ratio and make your own choice
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Although I wrote above it should match LLC and for my LLC 7 supposed to be 69, I am testing with 80. I have a ticket open with MSI requesting the values of the resistence for each LLC and in case they reply, I will post later.
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For CPU voltage I am using:
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And voltage offset:
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On my system, when I use AC low like 5, usually I need to give a positive offset of around 0.050v and for AC high like 60 a negative offset of around 0.050

Then I test with:
  • CB R23 multi-thread and single thread (let repeat 4 or 5 times)
  • y-cruncher (repeat few times)
  • P95 with AVX enabled and disabled (with all the threads and 1 thread)
Then I try to find the lowest offset that can get running P95 multi-thread with the lowest temp and then I check if system is still stable for other tests.

Usually I watch the graph for the vid, current, power using hwinfo:
View attachment 2566807


I am still learning and also testing for myself, so above is just a reference to get you started.
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Man - thank you a lot for great, detailed info, really apriciate that ! AC/DC was “highway to hell” for me, could not figure out where to start so - left at simple settings. Now getting interesting result, will post in couple of days. My KS is overall not that good comparing to 12900 K iv got in other workstation, that one is SP98, P cores SP104 but it has poor performing MC :(
 
#133 ·
Thank you Ken A. Saved me a buncha time by just putting in your settings and tweaking from there.
 
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#134 ·
Without having to read all 7 pages. Can anyone share maximum BCLK FSB they have been able to achieve? Iv'e been running my G7400 on her and the max stable(ish) BCLK iv'e been able to get is around 146. Using A22TH (H0) stepping CPU. I am trying to figure out if this is normal behavior or if the board is gimped.
 
#135 ·
seems very normal
 
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#139 ·
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Msi Unify-X Z690 Mainboard, Problem beim OC, Turbo Ratio, algemeines Problem?

Hallo Msi Support! System: Intel 12900KF G.Skill Trident Z5 Dimm Kit 32GB, 6600 Os: Win 11 Pro Bios Versionen: 7D28vA2, 7D28vA3 und 7D28vA42 Ich habe mir vor 2 Wochen das Unify-X Z690 Mainboard zugelegt und habe Probleme mit der OC Funktion, Turbo Ratio. Bie mir werden die Einstellungen zwar...
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Wheelchair is my nickname in the Hwluxx forum and you can ask IronAge, I sent him the bios. He knows me. Post #62

Regards
 
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