[OFFICIAL] AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX/XT Owner's Club

LtMatt · Jan 25, 2023

harderthanfire said:
Looking good. My CPU letting me down I think. Getting an average of 81 fps at 3440x1440 so slightly lower res but lower fps xD

After double checking, I think I had FSR on Quality mode during that run. Rerun it again 4K native max settings but made sure FSR was off and scored 65 FPS.

leinad_0011 · Jan 25, 2023

the new driver (23.1.2) make my power draw even worse..its to high in idle.

Medusa666 · Jan 25, 2023

harderthanfire said:
Only reason I would change off my reference card is due to the coil whine, it's a bit more than I'd like. Other than that I am pretty happy with it, swapping to a reference now would incur too much of a cost for it to be worth it. Also thinking about watercooling so reference is good for having different waterblock options.

gupsterg said:
If my MBA XTX had been fully functional (£1050) and I hadn't found a XFX MERC XTX at close price (£1052), I wouldn't pay more for AIB.

I have experienced Nitro XTX (£1300) & Red Devil XTX (£1175). I am looking forward to Merc, a "No nonsense" XTX at the price I ordered.

Merc has higher tier "Powerlimit". Using +15% results in GPU PPT Limit (Sustained) 389W, GPU PPT Limit (Short) 467W. Only Aorus Elite, Nitro, Aqua & Taichi have that high a PL.

Nitro (A.Q 54.0%) was very small % higher on average "Overclock GPU" than MBA (A.Q 36.1%), Red Devil (A.Q 49.4%) was similar to MBA. So really can't say AIB better bin of silicon, so "Silicon lottery" factor similar.

Thank you both for your replies.

I also think that the reference is great this time around, when the vapor chamber is working as intended.

I have been looking at the XFX model, it looks great with minimal RGB and very sleek design. It is 85 euro more here, or 6,5% higher cost. Con is the size, the reference will fit in almost any case, many ITX ones.

gupsterg · Jan 25, 2023

Medusa666 said:
Thank you both for your replies.

I also think that the reference is great this time around, when the vapor chamber is working as intended.

I have been looking at the XFX model, it looks great with minimal RGB and very sleek design. It is 85 euro more here, or 6,5% higher cost. Con is the size, the reference will fit in almost any case, many ITX ones.

No problem

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I too like design and sizing of MBA, also like 2x8pin, much neater

. Don't think vs AIB it can be beaten for the aspects discussed. Still has OC/UV "headroom".

Sad thing about MBA we can't tweak powerlimit, etc to what we may want.

Otherwise VRM/PCB is as sound as AIB to take higher powerlimit.

Even 2x8pin is not limiting factor.

What you see quoted in reviews and manufacturer presentations is PCI-SIG specification.

2x8pin can allow 288W per plug on standard terminals, higher on HCS, which most decent PSU got.

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Slaughtahouse · Jan 25, 2023

Honestly, now that my frustrations have be subsided by my replacement card... the MBA does everything you really need from a reference.

It's the most compact solution. It will run cool enough and if you make small adjustments to the fan profile, it will be quiet. I have 3 Noctua A12x25s feeding air into my intake rad at about ~1350rpm and the noise level isn't all that much higher when the MBA card runs at 1700rpm. So make sure you modify your fan profile so it doesnt spike above 2000 rpm.

Is it the best card? No, but it's an all around safe choice and will always be the cheapest card.

I still prefer and recommend where possible, a board partner option if the cost makes sense. If that is the XFX Merc, that may be the best card for you

For some context, a MBA 7900 XTX is ~$1,350 CAD from the AMD store. On the opposite spectrum, the Sapphire Nitro+ is ~$1,650 CAD on Newegg (when its in stock). I love the look and quality of the Nitro from comments here but an extra $300 (20%) is tough to swallow when you're checking out in the cart...

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RichieRich25 · Jan 25, 2023

Slaughtahouse said:
Honestly, now that my frustrations have be subsided by my replacement card... the MBA does everything you really need from a reference.

It's the most compact solution. It will run cool enough and if you make small adjustments to the fan profile, it will be quiet. I have 3 Noctua A12x25s feeding air into my intake rad at about ~1350rpm and the noise level isn't all that much higher when the MBA card runs at 1700rpm. So make sure you modify your fan profile so it doesnt spike above 2000 rpm.

Is it the best card? No, but it's an all around safe choice and will always be the cheapest card.

I still prefer and recommend where possible, a board partner option if the cost makes sense. If that is the XFX Merc, that may be the best card for you

For some context, a MBA 7900 XTX is ~$1,350 CAD from the AMD store. On the opposite spectrum, the Sapphire Nitro+ is ~$1,650 CAD on Newegg (when its in stock). I love the look and quality of the Nitro from comments here but an extra $300 (20%) is tough to swallow when you're checking out in the cart...

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Microcenter by me has an asrock for 1099. Trying to tell a friend to get it

RichieRich25 · Jan 25, 2023

leinad_0011 said:
the new driver (23.1.2) make my power draw even worse..its to high in idle.

Yea my power draw is worse and my voltage spikes a little higher. Also autoOC much much lower at 3023mhz now vs 3100+mhz. Power draw 1 screen 65watts. Also saw much lower clock speeds while played mw2. Usually around 2950-3075 but on this driver I was around 2795-2895 and still using higher voltage. So far 22.12.2 has been the best driver for me

gtz · Jan 25, 2023

Will be joining soon, ordered a XFX Merc 7900XTX. Amazon had them for 1050 last night and bought jumped on it fast. Loved my 6800XT Merc, was my favorite AIB card.

ht_addict · Jan 25, 2023

Picked up the Sapphire MBA 7900XTX. Now I'm in stand by waiting for EKWB to release their new water blocks.

RichieRich25 · Jan 25, 2023

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Went back to 12.2 and so far highest auto oc I've seen

Nopileus · Jan 25, 2023

Same here, from 40W idle power in 22.12.2 (same as old rtx 2070) to 90W in 23.1.2
Downgrade fixed it immediately.

energie80 · Jan 25, 2023

Statement from our team: No MorePowerTool (MPT) for RDNA3 and the reasons | igor´sLAB

The fact that the MorePowerTool from Hellm and the Red BIOS Rebellion Team (R.B.R.T.) in the background for RDNA3 will no longer exist in the usual form has already been reported by some media…

www.igorslab.de

Counterassy14 · Jan 25, 2023

energie80 said:
Statement from our team: No MorePowerTool (MPT) for RDNA3 and the reasons | igor´sLAB

The fact that the MorePowerTool from Hellm and the Red BIOS Rebellion Team (R.B.R.T.) in the background for RDNA3 will no longer exist in the usual form has already been reported by some media…

www.igorslab.de

Not out of nowhere but honestly crushing news.
It just feels like something died right there.

criminal · Jan 25, 2023

gtz said:
Will be joining soon, ordered a XFX Merc 7900XTX. Amazon had them for 1050 last night and bought jumped on it fast. Loved my 6800XT Merc, was my favorite AIB card.

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energie80 said:
Statement from our team: No MorePowerTool (MPT) for RDNA3 and the reasons | igor´sLAB

The fact that the MorePowerTool from Hellm and the Red BIOS Rebellion Team (R.B.R.T.) in the background for RDNA3 will no longer exist in the usual form has already been reported by some media…

www.igorslab.de

gupsterg · Jan 25, 2023

Slaughtahouse said:
II love the look and quality of the Nitro from comments here but an extra $300 (20%) is tough to swallow when you're checking out in the cart...

Totally agree.

RichieRich25 said:
Yea my power draw is worse and my voltage spikes a little higher. Also autoOC much much lower at 3023mhz now vs 3100+mhz. Power draw 1 screen 65watts. Also saw much lower clock speeds while played mw2. Usually around 2950-3075 but on this driver I was around 2795-2895 and still using higher voltage. So far 22.12.2 has been the best driver for me

v23.1.2

MBA XTX (A.Q 36.1%) 3023-3064 (6 runs)
Nitro XTX (A.Q 54.0%) 3136MHz (1 run)
Red Devil XTX (A.Q 49.9%) 3028-3064MHz (3 runs)

v23.1.1

MBA XTX (A.Q 36.1%) 3023-3048 (5 runs)
Nitro XTX (A.Q 54.0%) 3110MHz-3151 (19 runs)
Red Devil XTX (A.Q 49.9%) 2997-3059MHz (22 runs)

v22.12.2

MBA XTX (A.Q 36.1%) 3095-3141 (4 runs)
Nitro XTX (A.Q 54.0%) Untested
Red Devil XTX (A.Q 49.9%) Untested

All 3 cards seem to like 2772MHz on VRAM, gets SOC clock higher than 2748MHz, 2996MHz seems also possible, but can encounter instability in some tests. Which so far have been 3DM FS/FSE/FSU/TS/TSE, SP1080E, SP4K, folding@home, MemtestCL (The Stilt mod).

energie80 said:
Statement from our team: No MorePowerTool (MPT) for RDNA3 and the reasons | igor´sLAB

The fact that the MorePowerTool from Hellm and the Red BIOS Rebellion Team (R.B.R.T.) in the background for RDNA3 will no longer exist in the usual form has already been reported by some media…

www.igorslab.de

On OCuk yesterday a link was placed by another for wccftech, discussion starts here.

As stated in a post on OCuk, it's not always about increases. It would have been great to lower SOC & VRAM voltage, besides playing with other settings.

I understand reasoning for securing GPU. It has been coming for a while. Ever since Vega had HW on GPU checking FW, I had always thought "lockdown" on SPPT, etc will come ...

What I don't get is why there can't be accessible VBIOS with settings for us "Enthusiasts" and "Tinkerers" to meddle with. Perhaps an app from AMD with all available settings. Wattman really has too little vs what we can play with on card when it is open.

Generally speaking, overclocking is something all companies "tout" in marketing. So why close it off to those that wanna do it.

Ah well, is what is is ...

Neoony · Jan 25, 2023

gupsterg said:
Totally agree.

v23.1.2

MBA XTX (A.Q 36.1%) 3023-3064 (6 runs)
Nitro XTX (A.Q 54.01%) 3136MHz (1 run)
Red Devil XTX (A.Q 49.9%) 3028-3064MHz (3 runs)

v23.1.1

MBA XTX (A.Q 36.1%) 3023-3048 (5 runs)
Nitro XTX (A.Q 54.01%) 3110MHz-3151 (19 runs)
Red Devil XTX (A.Q 49.9%) 2997-3059MHz (22 runs)

v22.12.2

MBA XTX (A.Q 36.1%) 3095-3141 (4 runs)
Nitro XTX (A.Q 54.01%) Untested
Red Devil XTX (A.Q 49.9%) Untested

All 3 cards seem to like 2772MHz on VRAM, gets SOC clock higher than 2748MHz, 2996MHz seems also possible, but can encounter instability in some tests. Which so far have been 3DM FS/FSE/FSU/TS/TSE, SP1080E, SP4K, folding@home, MemtestCL (The Stilt mod).

On OCuk yesterday a link was placed by another for wccftech, discussion starts here.

As stated in a post on OCuk, it's not always about increases. It would have been great to lower SOC & VRAM voltage, besides playing with other settings.

I understand reasoning for securing GPU. It has been coming for a while. Ever since Vega had HW on GPU checking FW, I had always thought "lockdown" on SPPT, etc will come ...

What I don't get is why there can't be accessible VBIOS with settings for us "Enthusiasts" and "Tinkerers" to meddle with. Perhaps an app from AMD with all available settings. Wattman really has too little vs what we can play with on card when it is open.

Generally speaking, overclocking is something all companies "tout" in marketing. So why close it off to those that wanna do it.

Ah well, is what is is ...

Guess I am usually hearing/reading that Nvidia is rather scared to advertise Overclocking (but they tried at some point)
But yeah, AMD basically makes it a feature

criminal · Jan 25, 2023

harderthanfire said:
Yeah built in, you just launch it from the main menu. The sub 1 second load time makes it super fast to tweak settings then relaunch the benchmark too, it's quite nice.

Is the benchmark avaliable in the Demo? Either I am blind or it isn't there for me.

harderthanfire · Jan 25, 2023

criminal said:
Is the benchmark avaliable in the Demo? Either I am blind or it isn't there for me.

It won't let me download the demo alongside the game so I can't check but afaik it does. People have been posting benchmarks from the demo on reddit anyway afaik.

RedF · Jan 25, 2023

Can't find the benchmark either.

LtMatt · Jan 25, 2023

I think benchmark is only available in the full game folks. I see it on the main menu.
Forsaken Benchmark 2160P Maximum Settings | 7950X + 7900 XTX Nitro - YouTube
Forsaken Benchmark 1440P Maximum Settings | 7950X + 7900 XTX Nitro - YouTube

[OFFICIAL] AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX/XT Owner's Club

LtMatt

leinad_0011

Medusa666

gupsterg

Slaughtahouse

RichieRich25

RichieRich25

gtz

ht_addict

RichieRich25

Nopileus

energie80

Statement from our team: No MorePowerTool (MPT) for RDNA3 and the reasons | igor´sLAB

Counterassy14

Statement from our team: No MorePowerTool (MPT) for RDNA3 and the reasons | igor´sLAB

criminal

Statement from our team: No MorePowerTool (MPT) for RDNA3 and the reasons | igor´sLAB

gupsterg

Statement from our team: No MorePowerTool (MPT) for RDNA3 and the reasons | igor´sLAB

Neoony

criminal

harderthanfire

RedF

LtMatt

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