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GPU Memory Junction Temperature on my XTX Red Devil gets pretty hot under load, with the highest I've seen 96c & Idle it sits between 68-74c. Although, I think my VRAM being maxed out while Idle plays a role in my Memory Junction Temps being so high? (70-74c)

This is after a few runs of Time Spy. What do y'all think?

EDIT: It seems like disconnecting my 2nd monitor fixed my Idle Memory Junction Temperature, as my VRAM wasn't being maxed out now.

EDIT 2: I ordered PTM7950 from Amazon. I plan on repasting my GPU for a hopeful fix on overall temperatures. Added a link if anyone was interested repasting your XT/XTX's.
 

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The thermal paste included in the Alphacool block of my reference 7900XT is starting to pump out I think, or something similar, since in the 3 months I have this GPU the delta between GPU and hotspot increased from 20-22 to 28-33ÂşC at high loads (over 270w). For example today, playing Red Dead Redemption 2 everything maxed out and many texture mods, or Control everything maxed out+RT+FSR 2.1 quality mod, GPU between 90 and 100% and between 280 and 310w, the GPU stays at 45-50ÂşC max, but the hotspot is at 75-78ÂşC, even with all the fans and pump maxed out. Same 26ÂşC room temp as when I bought it.

Now, in a couple of weeks I’m going to drain the loop to add a 420mm slim rad, since my case can hold it and the stock fans are quite good, and I’m definitely going to do something for the GPU. The big question is: Kryosheet or PTM7950? I’m EXTREMELY intrigued by the Kryosheet, since it could be just the perfect “set-and-forget” solution for me (as I don’t like to drain and open my loop very often), but I’d like to try also the 7950, as I have some customers with overheating gaming laptops that could use it but I never had the chance to try it to have a clear result to give to customers. What do you guys/gals suggest? Thanks!
 
Now, in a couple of weeks I’m going to drain the loop to add a 420mm slim rad, since my case can hold it and the stock fans are quite good, and I’m definitely going to do something for the GPU. The big question is: Kryosheet or PTM7950? I’m EXTREMELY intrigued by the Kryosheet, since it could be just the perfect “set-and-forget” solution for me (as I don’t like to drain and open my loop very often), but I’d like to try also the 7950, as I have some customers with overheating gaming laptops that could use it but I never had the chance to try it to have a clear result to give to customers. What do you guys/gals suggest? Thanks!
For PTM to perform its best, the surface of the die and waterblock have to stay above 45c for a while, so it can fully melt and thin out. The thinner the bond-line, the better it performs. If the avg GPU temp is 45-50c, that's measured inside the silicon, meaning the external temp and surface of the block are cooler. I'm not sure how much of a temp delta there is between the internal silicon and the block, but I would imagine the block is closer to the temp of your water, once it has heatsoaked. So I'm not sure PTM is the best choice for water cooling. Obviously you could turn the fans and pump way down and let it cook, but idk if it's a good idea to let the water get to 40-45c.
 
Now, in a couple of weeks I’m going to drain the loop to add a 420mm slim rad, since my case can hold it and the stock fans are quite good, and I’m definitely going to do something for the GPU. The big question is: Kryosheet or PTM7950? I’m EXTREMELY intrigued by the Kryosheet, since it could be just the perfect “set-and-forget” solution for me (as I don’t like to drain and open my loop very often), but I’d like to try also the 7950, as I have some customers with overheating gaming laptops that could use it but I never had the chance to try it to have a clear result to give to customers. What do you guys/gals suggest? Thanks!
I think Thermal Gryzzly Kryosheet would be a better solution than PTM here because of the temperature required for PTM to start working as intended. Just my 2 cents!
 
Does anyone know how to prevent AMD adrenaline from resetting the tuning setting whenever a game crashes? I manage tuning on msi afterburner anyway.

The card is so much better with undervolting
If its a driver crash Wattman will reset, not much to do about it i think.
Make profiles so you can easily enable your preferred settings again.

If Wattman resets on Windows startup or through other means wich isnt a driver crash you should disable Windows Fast Startup.
Disabling that helped me alot in Wattman resetting.

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If its a driver crash Wattman will reset, not much to do about it i think.
Make profiles so you can easily enable your preferred settings again.

If Wattman resets on Windows startup or through other means wich isnt a driver crash you should disable Windows Fast Startup.
Disabling that helped me alot in Wattman resetting.

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Yeah, that reset from driver crash is super disappointing. Does anyone know of a way to apply the OC when a driver crash happens from task scheduler or something?
 
The thermal paste included in the Alphacool block of my reference 7900XT is starting to pump out I think, or something similar, since in the 3 months I have this GPU the delta between GPU and hotspot increased from 20-22 to 28-33ÂşC at high loads (over 270w). For example today, playing Red Dead Redemption 2 everything maxed out and many texture mods, or Control everything maxed out+RT+FSR 2.1 quality mod, GPU between 90 and 100% and between 280 and 310w, the GPU stays at 45-50ÂşC max, but the hotspot is at 75-78ÂşC, even with all the fans and pump maxed out. Same 26ÂşC room temp as when I bought it.

Now, in a couple of weeks I’m going to drain the loop to add a 420mm slim rad, since my case can hold it and the stock fans are quite good, and I’m definitely going to do something for the GPU. The big question is: Kryosheet or PTM7950? I’m EXTREMELY intrigued by the Kryosheet, since it could be just the perfect “set-and-forget” solution for me (as I don’t like to drain and open my loop very often), but I’d like to try also the 7950, as I have some customers with overheating gaming laptops that could use it but I never had the chance to try it to have a clear result to give to customers. What do you guys/gals suggest? Thanks!
I would also suggest the Kryosheet due the facts already explained. And I'd recommend you to protect the SMD capacitors around the die with some lacquer/varnish/nailpolish/conformal coating since the Kryosheet is conductive.

Just a note; I've 7900XTX Pulse and Alphacool block - it was not very good with Alphacool Apex paste, but when I went to liquid metal (Conductonaut), it got excellent and I've a 16 degree delta at 428W and 18*C at 480W. At 550W it goes up to 21*C. I don't remember the GPU/delta, but when I was hitting +950W during one TimeSpy run, my hotspot was something around 95*C.
I never though it'd get that good with the die so horribly "warped" without lapping the damn thing. Equally surprising was that the Alphacool block seems to have no issues to keep a thermal load of one kilowatt so well under control.
 
The thermal paste included in the Alphacool block of my reference 7900XT is starting to pump out I think, or something similar, since in the 3 months I have this GPU the delta between GPU and hotspot increased from 20-22 to 28-33ÂşC at high loads (over 270w). For example today, playing Red Dead Redemption 2 everything maxed out and many texture mods, or Control everything maxed out+RT+FSR 2.1 quality mod, GPU between 90 and 100% and between 280 and 310w, the GPU stays at 45-50ÂşC max, but the hotspot is at 75-78ÂşC, even with all the fans and pump maxed out. Same 26ÂşC room temp as when I bought it.

Now, in a couple of weeks I’m going to drain the loop to add a 420mm slim rad, since my case can hold it and the stock fans are quite good, and I’m definitely going to do something for the GPU. The big question is: Kryosheet or PTM7950? I’m EXTREMELY intrigued by the Kryosheet, since it could be just the perfect “set-and-forget” solution for me (as I don’t like to drain and open my loop very often), but I’d like to try also the 7950, as I have some customers with overheating gaming laptops that could use it but I never had the chance to try it to have a clear result to give to customers. What do you guys/gals suggest? Thanks!
I applied some PTM7950 to my 6900XT just the other day, pretty pleased with the result. GPU/Hotspot delta @460W was 22° when freshly applied, seems to improve further, as it's 20° now, with hotspot maxing out @80°. Room temperature 27°.
 
I applied some PTM7950 to my 6900XT just the other day, pretty pleased with the result. GPU/Hotspot delta @460W was 22° when freshly applied, seems to improve further, as it's 20° now, with hotspot maxing out @80°. Room temperature 27°.
That's with a water block? Have you tried turning the fans and pump down while running a stress test / benchmark loop for a while? It may have further room for improvement.
 
Read out with which tool ? Or which hardware modification? Elmorslab EVC ?
ASRock Extreme vBIOS and EVC2. I'd halved the Igain with EVC and GPU-Z was reading something around 420...440W.
My ROG Thor 1200 PSU's display said 1039W from the wall (5800X3D won't take much during GT2)
 
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For undervolting, has anyone tried increasing PL and then lowering max frequency? I did a quick test last night and I managed to obtain equivalent results in Heaven Benchmark by lowering max frequency from 2935 to 2700, PL from 0 to +15% and memory from default to fast timings @ 2714. Not only performance was similar, but power consumption decreased by close to 10%.

It is totally counterintuitive to increase PL to undervolt. What am I missing?
 
That's with a water block? Have you tried turning the fans and pump down while running a stress test / benchmark loop for a while? It may have further room for improvement.
Yes, Bykski WB and no, haven't played with lower fan/pump speeds 'till now, but sure plan to do so in a few days when no further change in temperatures is observable.
 
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For undervolting, have anyone tried increasing PL and then lowering max frequency? I did a quick test last night and I managed to obtain equivalent results in Heaven Benchmark by lowering max frequency from 2935 to 2700, PL from 0 to +15% and memory from default to fast timings @ 2714. Not only performance was similar, but power consumption decreased by close to 10%.

It is totally counterintuitive to increase PL to undervolt. What am I missing?
I've tried. Actually that's quite clever way to reduce energy usage (if that's the goal) but you might get more stable results. Occassionally the GPU needs more peak power and if you've severely limited the voltage/power, it could result in stuttering for example. 6900XT was notorious for both, taking huge current spikes (like double the average) and stuttering. 7000-series seem to be a little easier in this.
 
For PTM to perform its best, the surface of the die and waterblock have to stay above 45c for a while, so it can fully melt and thin out. The thinner the bond-line, the better it performs. If the avg GPU temp is 45-50c, that's measured inside the silicon, meaning the external temp and surface of the block are cooler. I'm not sure how much of a temp delta there is between the internal silicon and the block, but I would imagine the block is closer to the temp of your water, once it has heatsoaked. So I'm not sure PTM is the best choice for water cooling. Obviously you could turn the fans and pump way down and let it cook, but idk if it's a good idea to let the water get to 40-45c.
I think Thermal Gryzzly Kryosheet would be a better solution than PTM here because of the temperature required for PTM to start working as intended. Just my 2 cents!
I would also suggest the Kryosheet due the facts already explained. And I'd recommend you to protect the SMD capacitors around the die with some lacquer/varnish/nailpolish/conformal coating since the Kryosheet is conductive.

Just a note; I've 7900XTX Pulse and Alphacool block - it was not very good with Alphacool Apex paste, but when I went to liquid metal (Conductonaut), it got excellent and I've a 16 degree delta at 428W and 18*C at 480W. At 550W it goes up to 21*C. I don't remember the GPU/delta, but when I was hitting +950W during one TimeSpy run, my hotspot was something around 95*C.
I never though it'd get that good with the die so horribly "warped" without lapping the damn thing. Equally surprising was that the Alphacool block seems to have no issues to keep a thermal load of one kilowatt so well under control.
Thanks everyone! Kryosheet it is then!
Regarding insulating the capacitors around the die(s), is electrical tape enough? As I don’t have any nail polish or similar in my house.
 
You also play warzone with a 1090mv? Btw what drivers u are running.
Yeap. Warzone with ultra settings. For 260-330fps. (240hz monitor 1440p) running the newest amd adrenalin driver 👍
Edit. Gamestable Down to 1075mv (testet metro exodus full Ray traced warzone Extreme settings. Ac Valhalla Extreme settings etc.
benchmark stable Down at 1035mv (aint using that though as its false results as i cant game at those. Can get to 34600 at 1075mv. But preffer 1090 just to be totally sure i aint suddenly crashing
 
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