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Yes. According to the Roberto's guide.

P.S. removed my previous words about the wrong ASUS EC reading from the 1st post to not confuse others, guess I should test it more carefully. But turning it on in HWINFO definitely causes some stability issues.
ISH. It's 0.49 ish. How accurate you want to be with it, is kind of up to you. One could read the comment of "Asus will adjust DC_LL automatically" as it will adjust it dynamically/on the fly which is not the case. Auto DC_LL just sets it to the correct impedance table. I haven't read his guide in a bit, but previously it was still recommended to tune DC_LL as boards have variance. Relatively simple, just can take a bit of time. Take whichever DC_LL setting for the LLC you're waiting to use as a starting point:

LLC1: 1.75 milliohms
LLC2: 1.46 milliohms
LLC3: 1.1 milliohms
LLC4: 0.98 milliohms
LLC5: 0.73 milliohms
LLC6: 0.49 milliohms
LLC7: 0.24 milliohms
LLC8: 0.01 milliohms (flat).

While under load VID should match VCore, if not then adjust DC_LL till it does.
If VID > Vcore at full load (or IA_Core_Power > VRM_Power) you need to increase DC_LL.
If VID < Vocre (or IA_Core_Power < VRM_Power) you need to lower DC_LL.

For example my Z690 Hero (I haven't tuned my Encore yet) needed 1.06 to match at LLC4. And it has the same table as Z790.

With that said the stock/Auto settings are still fine to use and should be very very close even when it's tuned.

Just to be clear the Autio setting could very well could have you matching. Just in case things aren't matching up and you want it to, it's time to tune.
 
ISH. It's 0.49 ish. How accurate you want to be with it, is kind of up to you. One could read the comment of "Asus will adjust DC_LL automatically" as it will adjust it dynamically/on the fly which is not the case. Auto DC_LL just sets it to the correct impedance table. I haven't read his guide in a bit, but previously it was still recommended to tune DC_LL as boards have variance. Relatively simple, just can take a bit of time. Take whichever DC_LL setting for the LLC you're waiting to use as a starting point:

LLC1: 1.75 milliohms
LLC2: 1.46 milliohms
LLC3: 1.1 milliohms
LLC4: 0.98 milliohms
LLC5: 0.73 milliohms
LLC6: 0.49 milliohms
LLC7: 0.24 milliohms
LLC8: 0.01 milliohms (flat).

While under load VID should match VCore, if not then adjust DC_LL till it does.
If VID > Vcore at full load (or IA_Core_Power > VRM_Power) you need to increase DC_LL.
If VID < Vocre (or IA_Core_Power < VRM_Power) you need to lower DC_LL.

For example my Z690 Hero (I haven't tuned my Encore yet) needed 1.06 to match at LLC4. And it has the same table as Z790.

With that said the stock/Auto settings are still fine to use and should be very very close even when it's tuned.

Just to be clear the Autio setting could very well could have you matching. Just in case things aren't matching up and you want it to, it's time to tune.
Exactly, on LLC 4 my setup likes 1.08 for DC_LL.
 
Voltage requirements for memory?
Sorry missed this, but I'm at DRAM 1.435v VDD/VDDQ and IMC VDD 1.4, TX VDDQ 1.33v, VCCSA 1.23v on Apex OG. This is for 8400 CL38 M-Dies 2x24gb.

Voltages were the same for 2x32gb 7400 CL34 A-Dies.

Previously the voltages were 1.4v IMC VDD, TX VDDQ 1.4v, and VCCSA 1.28v. The newer BIOS dropped them and it remained not only stable but seems to be easier to OC now. This was true for both 1701 and now 1703 BIOS.
 
Is 1703 better than 1701? I've noticed a marked improvement with 1701 in terms of voltage requirements. Has anyone found 1703 to be better? I'm liking 1701 so hesitant to bother with 1703 with OG White Apex.
1703 seems to be fine too.
 
Just install my my Asus z790 Apex Encore (upgraded from Asus z690 F).
Looks good, just a quick test 8200 cl 38 (first bios).
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Just one thing i was thinking about.
This motherboard use about 20w more in cinebech r23/r15.
With the same settings that i use on my old motherboard (same vcore, ram voltage, sa and ram speed).
Anyone know why?
 
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Just install my my Asus z790 Apex Encore (upgraded from Asus z690 F).
Looks good, just a quick test 8200 cl 38 (first bios).
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Just one thing i was thinking about.
This motherboard use about 20w more in cinebech r23/r15.
With the same settings that i use on my old motherboard (same vcore, ram voltage, sa and ram speed).
Anyone know why?
Try auto SA, auto mc
 
Your perspective is akin to going to a drag racing strip and telling the people that their rear differential isn't rated to handle the amount of torque they are torturing it with. They don't care. They'll just fix it if it breaks.
but in this case a lower voltage/wattage/temp will give better performance than 400w/higher voltage/temp..right? I know when I lowered my core voltage and wattage I actually got higher benchmark scores.
 
but in this case a lower voltage/wattage/temp will give better performance than 400w/higher voltage/temp..right? I know when I lowered my core voltage and wattage I actually got higher benchmark scores.
no. higher voltage assuming you didnt hit a temp scailing wall will allow you to run higher clocks which will result in better performance. This is for Static OCs with no LIMITS in place(unleashed), default/auto/adaptive configs depend on your power/temp budget which might be why lower voltage shows better performance.. Voltage * current = power. current increases with clock speeds and workload.
 
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but in this case a lower voltage/wattage/temp will give better performance than 400w/higher voltage/temp..right? I know when I lowered my core voltage and wattage I actually got higher benchmark scores.
No, not with sufficient cooling.
 
here :
 
BIOS 1703 with Update ME version to 16.1.30.2307v4 seems to have gimped 14700K CPU performance. Cinebench23 went from 36000+ to around 34700.
 
BIOS 1703 with Update ME version to 16.1.30.2307v4 seems to have gimped 14700K CPU performance. Cinebench23 went from 36000+ to around 34700.
Auto voltages may have changed.
 
Auto voltages may have changed.
tried changing core voltages
also VDD2, VDD and VDDQ 1.4 to 1.45 and TX 1.2 to 1.25 no go.

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01. Update ME version to 16.1.30.2307v4
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Please note after you update this BIOS, the ME version remains the updated one even if you roll back to an older BIOS later."
 
Hey all, what is the max memory speed seen (stable) on a Z790 Maximus Extreme? I can get 7600 stable but 7800 is not. It is very close but I cannot seem to get it dialed in. I'm thinking it is just the motherboard and not a matter of settings at this point. I'm currently running the 1501 BIOS, have not messed with 170x yet. Am I chasing tail? PS. I know I will never get 8000 just trying for 7800.
 
Hey all, what is the max memory speed seen (stable) on a Z790 Maximus Extreme? I can get 7600 stable but 7800 is not. It is very close but I cannot seem to get it dialed in. I'm thinking it is just the motherboard and not a matter of settings at this point. I'm currently running the 1501 BIOS, have not messed with 170x yet. Am I chasing tail? PS. I know I will never get 8000 just trying for 7800.
Mind sharing your timings for 7600? Max I have achieved is 7200MT/s XMP on my Extreme some can't even achieve that.
 
Mind sharing your timings for 7600? Max I have achieved is 7200MT/s XMP on my Extreme some can't even achieve that.
Nothing special really, using XMP Tweaked profile. CPU SP101, MCSP 79
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Just checking in for the Z790 Encore owner normies - yes we are here and loving the motherboard. :p

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